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Posted: 9/4/2010 1:28:17 PM EDT

Forget 5.56, even .308 will not cut it!!

According to authorites and other experts of the day, light caliber spitzer cartridges are better for wounding and their only advantage may lie in hampering an enemy with crowded hospital trains.. We need to go back to .45! See for yourself..;o)


http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F10614F6385E10738DDDA90A94DA415B8185F0D3
Link Posted: 9/4/2010 1:49:45 PM EDT
Maybe 120 years ago when this was published.

There have been a lot more studies as well as knowledged gained since then. I'll stick with what has proven to be effective in these modern times.

Dolomite
Link Posted: 9/4/2010 2:16:42 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Dolomite_Supafly:
Maybe 120 years ago when this was published.

There have been a lot more studies as well as knowledged gained since then. I'll stick with what has proven to be effective in these modern times.

Dolomite


Whooooosh
Link Posted: 9/4/2010 5:45:31 PM EDT
wow. they are complaining a .303 bullet didn't cause enough damage after 2500 yards and a ricochet. I would love to see a .45-70 or similar even come close to making it that far. and as for the second one, they fixed that by switching to smokeless powder in the .303.
Link Posted: 9/4/2010 6:05:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dolomite_Supafly:
Maybe 120 years ago when this was published.

There have been a lot more studies as well as knowledged gained since then. I'll stick with what has proven to be effective in these modern times.

Dolomite

I think you miss the point...

OP is making fun of '5.56 is just meant to wound, use 30cal if you want to kill' types...


Link Posted: 9/5/2010 1:36:04 AM EDT

Yup, lol. I just found it funny back in the day the traditionalists were saying the new fangled small cal .30 rounds were meant to wound..

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Dolomite_Supafly:
Maybe 120 years ago when this was published.

There have been a lot more studies as well as knowledged gained since then. I'll stick with what has proven to be effective in these modern times.

Dolomite

I think you miss the point...

OP is making fun of '5.56 is just meant to wound, use 30cal if you want to kill' types...




Link Posted: 9/5/2010 1:48:17 AM EDT
Damn new fangled .30 cal cartridges!
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:05:00 PM EDT
Damn all these metallic cased cartridges, its just a phase that will soon pass. .577 minnie balls FTMFW!
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 6:40:43 PM EDT
On the air, land or sea

bless them all, with a three oh three.




First rank..............
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 7:08:34 PM EDT
I wouldn't be surprised if there was an article written back then about how heavy machine guns are a fad, and the best way to take them out is by massed infantry charging across open ground....
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 7:42:10 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Red_Pill:
I wouldn't be surprised if there was an article written back then about how heavy machine guns are a fad, and the best way to take them out is by massed infantry charging across open ground....


I'm sure there was, but it was probably in Chinese. (circa 1950)
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 10:40:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2010 10:40:39 AM EDT by Psamtik]
Originally Posted By X02Wyvern:
wow. they are complaining a .303 bullet didn't cause enough damage after 2500 yards and a ricochet. I would love to see a .45-70 or similar even come close to making it that far. and as for the second one, they fixed that by switching to smokeless powder in the .303.


http://www.researchpress.co.uk/longrange/sandyhook.htm The famed Sandy Hook tests of the .45-70 out to around 2 miles' range.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 7:09:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2010 7:09:43 PM EDT by Red_Pill]
Originally Posted By SchrodingersDog:
Originally Posted By Red_Pill:
I wouldn't be surprised if there was an article written back then about how heavy machine guns are a fad, and the best way to take them out is by massed infantry charging across open ground....


I'm sure there was, but it was probably in Chinese. (circa 1950)


Actually, running across open ground was standard tactics until about the second year of WW1....the French, especially, favored a high "elan" (courage in the face of fire) as a critical component of breaking a trench defense.

Over the top, boys, again over the top.....the sad part is, when America got in the war, they refused to listen to either the Brits or the French (they'd been fighting for 3+ years and hadn't won yet, so what did they know?), and we sent our "boys" over the top and into the waiting machine guns.

Yes, at times we can be downright stupid.
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