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Posted: 10/3/2005 7:39:29 AM EDT
I know I've seen this topic around before, but I couldn't find it for some strange reason. My question, is, why do people say that .308 is more "inherently accurate" than 30-06? I don't personally believe in this "inherent accuracy". I believe that a quality barrel teamed with a well made cartridge will yield accuracy that, under the same conditions, is equal in both .308 and '06. What say you? MJD
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 9:36:41 AM EDT
Everyone knows that if you take a 308 and a 30-06 and hit the primer with a nail, the 308 will group better since it is more inherently accurate!


I think there is no such thing as "inherent" accuracy in a cartridge.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 9:42:34 AM EDT
Part of the accuracy equation is a shorter powder column. And this is what the .308 has over the .30-06.

A shorter powder column ignites more uniformly than a longer, skinnier column.

That is why the .222 Remington, which was the king of the benchrest circles in the 50's, loses out to the .22 PPC 40 - 50 yrs later.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 10:24:15 AM EDT
Can’t we remedy that by not using crappy powder? Like with wolf ammo I can see a wall of grey in front me for a second when shooting that stuff.

As apposed to a good varmint round
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 10:34:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bumblebee_Bob:
Part of the accuracy equation is a shorter powder column. And this is what the .308 has over the .30-06.

A shorter powder column ignites more uniformly than a longer, skinnier column.

That is why the .222 Remington, which was the king of the benchrest circles in the 50's, loses out to the .22 PPC 40 - 50 yrs later.



I can see how that could potentially change accuracy. Would using a benchrest type primer (or magnum primer if the load allows it) help deliver better ignition? That might be a question for the reloading forum. MJD
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 8:20:32 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 5:13:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Noname:
www.snipercountry.com/Articles/AccuracyFacts.asp



That's all well and good, but it refers a lot to events in the '60s. As we've seen, a lot has changed since then. We have more modern powders with different burning rates and formulations to improve accuracy. This is hard to be believed, "...the most accurate rifles using it would shoot groups at 200 yards of about 2 inches..." My hunting rifle loaded with a 168 gr. matchking and Varget powder does better than that and it's a bone stock Browning. Still not convinced. MJD
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 9:54:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bumblebee_Bob:
Part of the accuracy equation is a shorter powder column. And this is what the .308 has over the .30-06.

A shorter powder column ignites more uniformly than a longer, skinnier column.

That is why the .222 Remington, which was the king of the benchrest circles in the 50's, loses out to the .22 PPC 40 - 50 yrs later.




Also a part of the difference is between short action and long action - with short actions said to be slightly more "rigid", and thus lending themselves to better accuracy... In my experience, .308 *might* have an accuracy advantage over .30-06, but it's SO tiny that most shooters will never see it...



- georgestrings
Link Posted: 10/6/2005 4:16:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By georgestrings:
...
Also a part of the difference is between short action and long action - with short actions said to be slightly more "rigid", and thus lending themselves to better accuracy... In my experience, .308 *might* have an accuracy advantage over .30-06, but it's SO tiny that most shooters will never see it...



- georgestrings



Exactly! With quality ammunition and a good barrel, most rifles will outdo most shooters anyway. Glad somebody brought that up. MJD
Link Posted: 10/6/2005 4:20:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/6/2005 4:20:35 AM EDT by mr_wilson]
As my custom 700 30-06 slings the same exact 175grn SMK most long range 308 shooters are pitching I don't know how anyone can say there's any accuracy difference between this 30 caliber round.

Mike
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