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Posted: 10/1/2004 3:02:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/1/2004 3:03:56 PM EST by Wolfpack]
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 3:04:18 PM EST
AR in .22, she can always move up to a 556 later on with the same lower
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 3:05:53 PM EST
10/22
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 3:06:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By ajm1911:
AR in .22, she can always move up to a 556 later on with the same lower



Dedicated upper ought to perform better than a 10/22 and allow for....caliber improvements.
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 3:07:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By ajm1911:
AR in .22, she can always move up to a 556 later on with the same lower



Dedicated upper ought to perform better than a 10/22 and allow for....caliber improvements.


+1 thats what I meant
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 3:15:53 PM EST
Get her a folding stock for the 10-22.
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 3:47:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/1/2004 3:52:23 PM EST by ALAN308]
I bought my daughter an Anshutz. A decient rifle for a youth can be had in their low line listings for youth sized people. If she is learning the basics well, reward her with results. Know that ammo is going to become increasingly important. 22lr. is a round you cannot control as a product like a centerfire shooter can. It is possible ammo selection and trigger work on her current rifle may even be a giant leap alone. Aaaah, she deserves a new one.
Champion shooters supply. They will guide you two twards an appropriate success. I myself have a bunch of firearms, mostly pretty cool stuff. The 22's are critical in my skills and enjoyment both.
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 6:13:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/1/2004 6:28:23 PM EST by Wolfpack]
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 6:24:26 PM EST
10/22. Thats all fine and dandy that a AR in .22 is can be upgraded but so can a 10/22. Not to mention that a 10/22 costs less then the .22 upper for a AR. So basicly if you want a .22, get the 10/22, and at a later date buy another rifle in .223, .308 or whatever, don't limit her to a fugly AR so quickly.. What about an SKS?
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 6:32:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By Wolfpack:
My niece already has a .22 Henry Mini-Bolt as her first gun which she got when she was 12. She has great trigger disipline and follows all safety rules better than most adults I know....she's 15 now and I want to get her a nicer .22 for Xmas this year. What do you guys think is a cool .22 gun for a 15 year old girl, she is kinda prissy and hates anything with a kick so I'm gonna stay with .22 probably but I have thought of the Beretta Storm in 9mm. Here is my list so far that I'll be choosing from, if you have a different idea please post it. I really like the 10/22 heavy barrell because she has shot mine and likes it, she can shoot a pretty good group.

1. 10/22 heavy barrell target with a laminated stock, Harris bipod and a scope mounted

2. Walther G-22...ugly M-Fer though

3. Beretta Storm in 9mm



DPMS 20" 22LR AR-15...

If she likes it, a .223 upper is 2 push-pins away...
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 6:42:28 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 6:46:34 PM EST
Ruger mkII 22/45
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 6:50:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By Wolfpack:
It will be a couple years before she is gonna be a .223 shooter, Gunbert and I took her to the range yesterday and she shot 5 rounds from my AR and said it was too much, I think it's more of the sound than the recoil...she even had plugs with muffs on too. If I go the AR route I'd do a heavy target barrell with bipod, do they make stainless heavy barrells in .22?




The 20" A2 upper by DPMS is a National Match configuration

Free-floated stainless-steel heavy barrel, 1/4moa sights, etc...

Link Posted: 10/1/2004 7:21:36 PM EST
10/22 and a gift certificate to Brownells so she can buy some ugrades like a new stock and bull barrell. That'll give some pride of ownership.

The AR-15 in .22lr is an idea, but that's a significant investment and does nothing for her if she doesn't ever plan on going to .223.

Now, the 9mm Storm is an intersting idea. Lighter recoil and noise than the .223, and more potent than the .22lr if she ever needed it when she was older. But if you're going to stick with .22LR, get her the 10/22.

Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 7:42:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/1/2004 7:43:55 PM EST by Slash]
double tap
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 7:43:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By Wolfpack:
It will be a couple years before she is gonna be a .223 shooter, Gunbert and I took her to the range yesterday and she shot 5 rounds from my AR and said it was too much, I think it's more of the sound than the recoil...she even had plugs with muffs on too. If I go the AR route I'd do a heavy target barrell with bipod, do they make stainless heavy barrells in .22?



Yes. Talk to Clint at Fulton Armory. I have two dedicated Fulton uppers, and I couldn't be happier.



Link Posted: 10/1/2004 8:17:17 PM EST
Slash, which system/magazine does the Fulton conversion use?

Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 2:36:53 AM EST
After the bolt gun I would go with a semi auto to keep her interest level up.
I like the 10/22T but you might consider her strength vs the weight of the gun.How about a regular 10/22
with a Houge stock and one of the lightweight barrels? Consider good glass/red dot and some trigger mods.
What type of shooting will she likely be doing?Plinking at cans,targets ? Try to match the gun to the use but also try to stay flexable.
If you really want to go crazy get a Bushmaster superlight with a collapsible stock and a Ceiner.It will need to be a flatop with carry handle,scope and aimpoint .
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 3:01:00 AM EST
How about this ?
Sort of "the Ultimate Rimfire rifle "

www.volquartsen.com/default.asp?cat=Fusion+Take%2DDown

Link Posted: 10/2/2004 3:57:33 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 4:46:21 AM EST
Absolutely the 10/22. It rewards careful shooting. Developes skills. It doesn't intimidate. Easy to maintain. Fun to plink. Inexpensive. She will take all her new talent with her as she moves to other guns.

ozob
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 7:36:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By GodBlessTexas:
Slash, which system/magazine does the Fulton conversion use?

Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...



Ciener

Now (relatively) cheap and readily available.


Link Posted: 10/2/2004 7:42:02 AM EST
My daughters rifle is an 'Achiever'. They are not sold anymore. Champion shooters supply sells a lot of anshutz. A lower grade rifle will shoot well throughout her lifetime. Let them price one for you. Their experiance will ad value to the deal.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 7:54:24 AM EST
I picked my daughter up a Browning Buckmark Rifle when she was 14.

She really likes it because it is lightweight, and shoots real good.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 4:25:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By Slash:

Originally Posted By GodBlessTexas:
Slash, which system/magazine does the Fulton conversion use?

Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...



Ciener

Now (relatively) cheap and readily available.





I thought he was still charging an arm and a leg for his hi-caps.

Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 4:58:24 PM EST

Originally Posted By GodBlessTexas:
10/22 and a gift certificate to Brownells so she can buy some ugrades like a new stock and bull barrell. That'll give some pride of ownership.

The AR-15 in .22lr is an idea, but that's a significant investment and does nothing for her if she doesn't ever plan on going to .223.

Now, the 9mm Storm is an intersting idea. Lighter recoil and noise than the .223, and more potent than the .22lr if she ever needed it when she was older. But if you're going to stick with .22LR, get her the 10/22.




I started a AR15 in 22lr for my daughter for Christmas. With the the end of the ban I got side tracked.
I had a company that sold the CZ upper for 275.00. Combine that with 85.00 lower, 60.00 parts kit and old stock laying around you have a nice 22.
Compared to the 10/22 linkandlink2she shoots now I have.
New 10/22 189.00 Uncle Mikes stock and barrel [I think it was 250.00].There is really not much price difference.
My daughter wants to shoot the black gun like dad but don't like the boom. She gets alittle older and more size/weight she will have the sights and controls down.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 5:04:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By GodBlessTexas:

Originally Posted By Slash:
Ciener
Now (relatively) cheap and readily available.


I thought he was still charging an arm and a leg for his hi-caps.



www.22lrconversions.com/ordpg-r.htm


10 round - $35
30 Round - $59, 3 for $149

I sold a couple 30's for over $150 each about a year ago.



Link Posted: 10/4/2004 1:42:35 PM EST
Since she already has a 22, howabout the Marlin Model 917VS bolt-action repeater chambered in 17 HMR (muzzle velocity of 2,500 fps).
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 2:00:55 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 7:14:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By Wolfpack:

Originally Posted By another_shooter:
Since she already has a 22, howabout the Marlin Model 917VS bolt-action repeater chambered in 17 HMR (muzzle velocity of 2,500 fps).



I'll take a look but I like the .22 because the ammo can be bought practically anywhere...Wal-Mart or any sports store...I've never looked to see if they stock .17 at Wal-Mart.



HMR is also NOWHERE near the $8/500rds price of .22LR

Get the DPMS-system AR upper... If she doesn't go to .223 it will still be alot better gun than the 10/22...

Price is $400 for the upper from cheaper-than-dirt.

Add CavArms lower & small-parts-kit, and you're good to go...
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 7:21:39 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 7:43:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

HMR is also NOWHERE near the $8/500rds price of .22LR

Get the DPMS-system AR upper... If she doesn't go to .223 it will still be alot better gun than the 10/22...

Price is $400 for the upper from cheaper-than-dirt.

Add CavArms lower & small-parts-kit, and you're good to go...



On the other hand, 22 LR is NOWHERE near 17 HMR at 100 yards, LOL. I hadn't realized price was that much of a concern, and my feeling was that the only fun gun is an accurate one.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 6:51:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/5/2004 6:51:55 AM EST by ALAN308]
Granted the best 22 ammo is also pricy, you have the spectrum of options. 22lr. can run mighty quiet compared with a 17. I guess a 17 is a 17.... 22lr. is the worlds most fired round for good reason. Anything requiring more noise and power is better suited to centerfire work. I am not knocking the HRM, many like them. I had one myself, got another 22.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 7:35:17 AM EST
I'd go with a 10/22, but start her off with a basic one to introduce the semi-auto concept. Then when she's mastered the irons on it, upgrade to a scope. You can upgrade barrel, stock, trigger, etc. together so she knows how to work on the gun, and you both get some quality time together.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:58:46 PM EST
10/22 & then step up to an AR once she gets to 18.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 7:12:22 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 1:49:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By Wolfpack:
I've decided on a 10/22 with the Houge overmolded stock and a carbon fiber barrel...just have to build it. I am going to put a scope on it, probably a Leupold 3x9, it will be light enough to shoulder and she can also benchrest shoot it. I think she will like the fact it is a "custom" gun that her uncle built.



Excellent. The muzzle-braked Volquartzen THM carbon fiber barrel is what I have on my 10/22. It's a very tight fit (I don't think I'll be taking it off any time soon). It's scarier to apply force to a carbon fiber barrel than to an all metal barrel. A few cheap things to improve the gun would be a recoil buffer, a hole in the back of the receiver, and some shims made out of aluminum cans to hold the trigger group steady.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 10:04:01 AM EST
Another vote for 10/22

AND....

Beretta Neos Deluxe (pretty colors on the grips) with 6" barrel in black or INOX
There is a carbine kit coming out. It has a longer barrel and pistol grip stock. It is WAY better looking than the Wather G22.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 12:32:31 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 5:25:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By Wolfpack:
Dave_A, I'm going to a gunshow this weekend, what kind of mags does a .22 dedicated upper use?



Proprietary mags
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