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Posted: 12/11/2009 7:07:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/11/2009 7:07:24 AM EDT by Zhukov]
Has anyone used the Wolf 223 primers? How do they compare to CCI #41?
Link Posted: 12/10/2009 8:06:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/10/2009 8:07:51 PM EDT by JM1911]
I havent seen a difference between the two. Both work well for me.  I do use the magnum Wolfs. I have no experience with the regular small rifle.
Link Posted: 12/11/2009 3:02:42 AM EDT
This question would be better asked in the Reloading forum (near the bottom under Armory).
Link Posted: 12/11/2009 5:24:37 AM EDT
I've used them in .30 Carbine and .223 loads, they work just fine.  Never used those CCI primers, though, so I can't compare the two.  The Wolfs work and the price was right, I think I got them for around $19/1000.
Link Posted: 12/11/2009 9:55:52 AM EDT
Just a couple of  weeks ago, I loaded up 50 Wolf .223 primers, and compared them with 50 CCI 400s, and 50 Rem 7 1/2s with SMK 77s and hand-weighed Varget loads.

Accuracy in my 26" varmint gun for all 3 loads was about equal (at the limits of my abilities, 5 shots in 1/2" to 3/4 " from sandbags at 100 yds).

The Wolf .223s and the CCI 400s chronoed to the same average speed which was about 35 fps more than the Remmys.  The Wolf had the lowest SD and ES.
Link Posted: 12/11/2009 10:24:01 AM EDT
I have CCI #41 primers and Wolf small rifle magnum, haven't chrono'd the two back to back, but they both work fine and as an added bonus, the Wolf primers are always facing the same way in the package, so less time spent flipping them.
Link Posted: 12/11/2009 12:15:18 PM EDT
I can't tell the difference between the 2.   Wollf was a bargain when it was going for $20/k while CCI an others where going for $30+/k.  Wolf prices have gone up a bit so thry aren't the super bargain they once were.  Heck at Wideners Wolf and CCI are practically the same price.
Link Posted: 12/11/2009 1:20:42 PM EDT
I was surprised to see the wolf price increase. At the price they are now, I'll just use Winchester.

FYI - some guys on the brianenos forum have found that the latest batch of SP primers are now nickle and seem to be harder. Many are reporting increased numbers of light strikes.
Link Posted: 12/11/2009 5:23:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DUFFULS:
Has anyone used the Wolf 223 primers? How do they compare to CCI #41?


Yes

Wolf SRM in 223

Wolf LR in 7.62 x 39

Wolf LP in 45 ACP

Wolf SP in 9mm

For more info check my Wolf primer post up in "Useful Threads".
Link Posted: 12/18/2009 3:34:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2009 3:35:11 PM EDT by STJ]
Ran a comparison of Wolf 556, CCI 400, CCI 450 and CCI 41 primers.

Load consisted of 26gr H335, once fired LC08 brass trimmed to 1.75", Hornady bulk 55gr FMJ and OAL 2.22"

Gun: LaRue Stealth 16"
Chrono: Pro Chrono

The temperature outside was 27deg but the ammo was keeped at 68deg until fired.  The barrel was cooled between batches until I could hold onto it.  The barrel was brought up to temp before the first batch.  All batches were 15 shot each.

Wolf 556
High 2976
Low 2892
Ave 2944
ES 84
SD 27

CCI 400
High 2976
Low 2842
Ave 2926
ES 134
SD 44

CCI 41
High 2956
Low 2886
Ave 2921
ES 70
SD 23

CCI 450
High 2996
Low 2886
Ave 2954
ES 110
SD31


The Wolf primers were the easies to seat with the CCI 450 the hardest (they took some force).  The other two were only slightly harder to seat than the Wolf.

The CCI 400 were the flattest after firing.  The Wolf and CCI 450 showed the least flatting,  CCI 41 was in between.


On a side note Wolfs Magnum small pistol primers vs CCI standard small pistol.  The Wolfs produced lower speeds and higher ES and SD in my 9mm.  Listed are just two tests, but Wolf consistently under perform CCI.

9mm / Browning Hipower

CCI small pistol primer
5.6gr Power Pistol
124gr JHP
OAL 1.10
Ave 1123
ES 42
SD 11

Wolf small pistol magnum
5.6gr Power Pistol
124gr JHP
OAL 1.10
Ave 1099
ES 65
SD 18

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