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Posted: 8/17/2005 7:36:15 AM EDT
I'm in the mood for a piston gun that uses AR mags. My choices are teh G36 conversion, AR180b or Bushmaster M17. The G36 conversion should run me near 3-4K, the bushy and armalite will be going out to get tactified and will in teh end probably run 1-1.5K max.

The G36 will not hold the bolt open unless I get the g36 mag well conversion, which doesn't appeal to me for monetary reasons. I will be shooting the heck out of whatever I get since I will hopefully have to clean it less and I want to be able to use relatively cheap AR mags for it.

The M17 I will have a KKF job done. The AR180 I will send out to get thePredator intalled, pop on an ACE M4 stock etc etc...

What say you HK-philes?

KKFM17




ar180b
this rail

with this stock:


G36:
3150$

3750$

Link Posted: 8/17/2005 7:59:16 AM EDT
Who makes that forearm vertical grip in the last pic? Thanks.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 9:55:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HKG36K:
Who makes that forearm vertical grip in the last pic? Thanks.



Judging by the shape and the HUGE white letters I'd say Knights.

Link Posted: 8/17/2005 11:23:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ian187:

Originally Posted By HKG36K:
Who makes that forearm vertical grip in the last pic? Thanks.



Judging by the shape and the HUGE white letters I'd say Knights.




the vert grip is the SOG, no? the forearm is KAC IIRC.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 11:45:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:

Originally Posted By ian187:

Originally Posted By HKG36K:
Who makes that forearm vertical grip in the last pic? Thanks.



Judging by the shape and the HUGE white letters I'd say Knights.




the vert grip is the SOG, no? the forearm is KAC IIRC.



You're right. I misread the question.

Link Posted: 8/17/2005 11:55:08 AM EDT
For the price of that G36 conversion, you could buy an AUG with an AR mag stock, and the receiver won't crack either.

Have you considered a Daewoo? It might be harder to make it uber-tactical but it'll be a better gun than the M17S or the AR180B.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 1:01:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Sigurd:
Have you considered a Daewoo? It might be harder to make it uber-tactical but it'll be a better gun than the M17S or the AR180B.



why?
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 4:44:02 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 9:12:19 PM EDT
the m17s is not that comfy to shoot. doing double taps you suck alot of powder and smoke. I don't know if KKF has a remedy for that as the chamber is right under your nose.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 11:50:06 PM EDT
Here is mine:



and it did not cost me $3K-$4K.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 3:50:14 AM EDT
That's true Sigurd, but only a green AUG not the black AUG-P. That firearm is priced at $5000.00. The SL8/G36 conversion will not crack if you have the TN bolt in it. The bolt has the correct number of lugs - 6. The torque action caused by the bolt cycling inside the action has caused some cracking problems in the past.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 4:55:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Raptor22:
Here is mine:

photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?sAccountUnq=21422&iGalleryUnq=833&iImageUnq=16606

and it did not cost me $3K-$4K.



how did it not cost that much?
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 5:27:26 AM EDT
Same here. My G36 conversion didn't cost me that much. The reason is I did all the work myself (except barrel profiling that LarryG36 did). It cost me about $1800.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 5:41:36 AM EDT
wow - is the work drop in or does it require that little hting I like called skill!
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 7:21:29 AM EDT
I was 19 years old and had never seen a dremal tool in my life. I picked up a dremal at walmart (the cheapest one since I just spent everything I saved on the parts at the time) and started hacking away. Now 3 years later I still think it looks good. Oh and now I hack at sigs and ARs with my dremal.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 6:27:27 PM EDT
Since you live in VA, have you considered an SBR G36 clone?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/428SCJ/100_0764.jpg
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 8:10:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HKG36K:
Since you live in VA, have you considered an SBR G36 clone?img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/428SCJ/100_0764.jpg




why SBR?
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 12:00:29 PM EDT
Because chapperjoe, with an SBR(Short Barrelled Rifle), you do not have to comply with the U.S. parts count in the weapon, since it is an NFA restricted firearm. Being an NFA restricted firearm, it is not intended for "sporting purposes." Now this is only if you consider using the G36 magazines with a G36 mag well (which is how the rifle was intended to be used). You could still use these parts with a non-short barrelled rifle, however this is where it gets tricky complying with the U.S. parts count. YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL IF YOU GO THIS ROUTE. Otherwise, with the TN kit, you should have no problem with the AR-15 style magazines and the parts count.
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