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Posted: 8/14/2004 3:16:57 AM EST

I priced one yesterday for the very first time, and was told that I couldn't find a decent one under $700, and most were a lot more than that.  The gunshop owner I was speaking to had one on his wall (the MKI version, built to accept a Pederson Device) for $1600!

I had always kind of figured they would be about the same price as other WWII era bolt guns, i.e. $200 or less.  Big surprise for me.  

So are they really so rare as to command that price?  With the glut of Garands still around, I figured the 03s would be even more prolific.  Thanks for any info.

Link Posted: 8/14/2004 4:03:20 AM EST
I do know it's pretty hard to find one in original condition with all of the sporterizing that went on in the '50s and '60s. Original Mausers can get pricey, too (no import marks and all original). I'm selling an 03A3 in the EE right now, but not much under $700.
Link Posted: 8/14/2004 4:21:03 AM EST
I purchased a 1903 Springfield from the CMP last year. Cost was $400, rifle cleaned up real nice. These are still available, you might take a look at their website for information.
Link Posted: 8/14/2004 4:24:07 AM EST
Wow, my grandpa traded off his 03 for next to nothin.  A junk .303 british and $100.
Link Posted: 8/14/2004 4:41:30 AM EST
In a word: klinton

Link Posted: 8/14/2004 4:48:20 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/14/2004 5:30:12 AM EST
I picked one up at the North Store for $400 with a brand new barrel. Still haven't gotten around to cleaning the cosmoline of 'er yet though.

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Oh yea the finance director at the CMP told us M1 carbines will be coming in sometime in the next 24 months!!!! YIPPPPEEEE

Link Posted: 8/14/2004 8:54:25 AM EST
CMP? Link?
Link Posted: 8/14/2004 4:45:26 PM EST

Originally Posted By Corbic:
CMP? Link?

Link Posted: 8/16/2004 8:21:25 PM EST
I got my mark1 from the cmp. 400 and really nice.
Link Posted: 8/16/2004 11:38:20 PM EST
You have to remember that American weapons are not like foreign ones. When the US military discontinues a rifle, M14 for example, they simply don’t just make parts kits and put them on the open market like Europeans and the Chinese do. Rather the weapons are either given to friendly forces (South America-M1's) or are cut up and recycled. This is why no giant surplus of M16 part kits will hit the market; however we can expect to see LA-85s.  

Basically what I'm saying is while Enfields and Mausers are on the open market across the world, the Springfields on the other hand we're most likely cut up. The ones that are for sale either were stole, or "give" abroad, then returned state side, ect. They dodge the mills.

In short, 1903s are simply more rare then an Enfield et al.
Link Posted: 8/17/2004 11:24:01 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/17/2004 11:46:57 AM EST
None the less, if you notice, vintage 1911's, Carbines, Thompsons, Garands ect are all very rare, even more so when you look at the production numbers, 5-6 MILLION Garands and 6-7 MILLION Carbines were produced. They now fetch 1200 a pop and are not the common, compare this to the Mosin's, Kars, Enfields and Swiss things which were not produced is such great numbers, yet are plentiful and cheap. The US military stores or cuts up there weapons. Most M1s found there way to either Asian allies or to South American rebels trying to depose communist goverments. Also, 30 bucks a pop back in 1950-60 is about 300 today.
Link Posted: 8/17/2004 11:58:12 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/17/2004 6:57:48 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/17/2004 10:42:55 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
oh yea the CMP will soon have m1 carbines instock again. 30 some thousand coming back in from lend lease over the next 24 months.

This makes me very happy.
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 4:28:04 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 11:26:30 PM EST
Oh shit!!!  If they get the carbines....
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 8:08:12 AM EST
Keep in mind the CMP 03's and 03A3's that they have now mostly are returns from the Greeks.  Some have been refinished, mis-matched parts, and some are just freaking perfect.  I have seen a few at gunshows in the past summer that were Def Greek returns and not worth the $700 tag on them.  So buyer beware.

I have a Rock Island 1919 that is origional and a Rem 03a3 1943 with a 4 groove barrel that is pristine.
Both were 50's or 60's NRA / CMP purchased and I picked them up in an estate sale.  So you never know what you will find.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 8:30:57 AM EST
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