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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:23:34 PM EDT
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Just curious. How many rounds down range until you noticed a drop off. I'm sure someone else will chime in but it really depends. Barrel length, suppressor material, supers/subs, and many more factors. I know OSS says 10k on one of their components. Others have form 1's with 20k on them and still completely fine. Not sure about the other major manufacturers but I'd say a really really long time if you go by their recommendations. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:26:06 PM EDT
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I'm sure someone else will chime in but it really depends. Barrel length, suppressor material, supers/subs, and many more factors. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just curious. How many rounds down range until you noticed a drop off. I'm sure someone else will chime in but it really depends. Barrel length, suppressor material, supers/subs, and many more factors. Ya, I would say rate of fire and barrel length are pretty crucial factors in the time equation |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:41:28 PM EDT
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There's an old thread that was referenced recently about a Saker that has been torture tested. Thousands of rounds, 10-20k? Exterior looks like shit, they didn't have pics of the inside but was reported to still sound and lock up the same.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:52:03 PM EDT
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I know what is the expected life of a can. Just am curious if anybody had a can that actually shit the bed.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 7:24:11 PM EDT
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I know what is the expected life of a can. Just am curious if anybody had a can that actually shit the bed. I'll be outside of filling up a .22 can with lead, you're not going to. Other than catastrophic failure (baffle/end-cap strikes, tube failures, weld failures, bullet through the side of the tube) you really aren't going to find any that were shot so much the baffles and bore wore out to the point it looses any real effectiveness. (Doesn't KAC have an NT4 with 100K+ on it?) |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 7:37:22 PM EDT
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Then what's the point of inconel and Stellite baffles if your average ss or titanium are not prone to failure?
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Posted: 6/29/2015 7:45:38 PM EDT
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Then what's the point of inconel and Stellite baffles if your average ss or titanium are not prone to failure? Marketing, mostly? Lots of money in selling technical, but mostly useless, differences to people who will never need to take advantage of those benefits. I'm not saying it's entirely useless, just most benefits are theoretical.* It takes a lot of F/A fire from short barrels to start doing any real wear to them. My Sonata can go to 120mph! Yeah, well my Camry goes to 130! (With a 70mph maximum speed limit and a 10 minute commute each way to work). *The OSS guy was marketing his cans saying that SOF guys had to carry 2, and swap after a couple mags because they stopped working. 
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:20:14 PM EDT
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Then what's the point of inconel and Stellite baffles if your average ss or titanium are not prone to failure? bragging on the internet? 
What's the point in a Noveske barrel when you can get a Radical Firearms barrel for $89? Mega lower vs Anderson? XM193 vs Tula? |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:41:49 PM EDT
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Since wearing tends to be gradual, it's doubtful that you would suddenly notice a difference.
Of my cans, the closest to being "worn out" is probably my Gemtech Alpine - and that's not from shooting but from cleaning. I disassemble it quite often or else the Caged-K baffles become difficult to separate. From visual observation, the edges aren't as sharp as they are on my new Alpine. I suppose one of these days it will be sent off for the IOU upgrade, though I still wish they had some stainless steel baffles left over from the limited Alpine-S run. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:01:47 AM EDT
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Ive never done it but i have read reviews of people using suppressors past 50,000 rounds with little or no loss in performance.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:15:20 AM EDT
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I melted the core on my Huntertown Arms Kestrel 5.56 with my M16. Only took about 3500 rounds.
To their credit they did rebuild it free. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 11:51:24 AM EDT
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I melted the core on my Huntertown Arms Kestrel 5.56 with my M16. Only took about 3500 rounds.
To their credit they did rebuild it free. Not to come off as dense but can you go into detail |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 12:05:22 PM EDT
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Not to come off as dense but can you go into detail Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I melted the core on my Huntertown Arms Kestrel 5.56 with my M16. Only took about 3500 rounds.
To their credit they did rebuild it free. Not to come off as dense but can you go into detail Sounds like the core or baffles started to deform, in which case it could have been a heat treat issue. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 12:16:45 PM EDT
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Not to come off as dense but can you go into detail Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I melted the core on my Huntertown Arms Kestrel 5.56 with my M16. Only took about 3500 rounds.
To their credit they did rebuild it free. Not to come off as dense but can you go into detail Holes in the first several baffles were significantly larger. I'll post pics when I get home from work tonight. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 4:59:18 PM EDT
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If you can afford enough ammo to wear out a can, buying a replacement is just a drop in the bucket.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 7:39:19 PM EDT
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But time is money, and the 8 months for a replacement and stamp is expensive.
Good to hear huntertown replaced it. Was this old huntertown or recent? |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:23:46 PM EDT
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If you can afford enough ammo to wear out a can, buying a replacement is just a drop in the bucket. THIS I have a AWC 10/22 that is 25ish years old with over 10k rounds and a Ruger MK2 integral with way more than 10k, mostly CCI mini-mags, that is still very quiet. Have a MP5-SD that's 27 years old 15k plus rounds and 5k was old corrosive primer surplus ammo. Have ACC with over 8K of 5.56 and 7.62 through it, some fired full auto. A 22 sparrow with 5k plus. They all still work just fine. A well made silencer/suppressor will last a long time, and buying it will be the cheapest thing about it, its the feeding that costs. I used to worry about my AWC's 22s and the SD filling up but they have stood the test of time. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:43:21 PM EDT
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Holes in the first several baffles were significantly larger. I'll post pics when I get home from work tonight. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I melted the core on my Huntertown Arms Kestrel 5.56 with my M16. Only took about 3500 rounds.
To their credit they did rebuild it free. Not to come off as dense but can you go into detail Holes in the first several baffles were significantly larger. I'll post pics when I get home from work tonight. 
The first couple baffles were all like this. It still worked, I guess. The performance of the can wasn't that great to begin with. It was an awful lot of wear for 3500 rounds in a can that was "full auto rated". |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:45:31 PM EDT
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But time is money, and the 8 months for a replacement and stamp is expensive. Good to hear huntertown replaced it. Was this old huntertown or recent? They didn't replace the entire can, just the front end. There was no stamp, it's on a form 3. 
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Posted: 7/1/2015 10:32:12 AM EDT
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They didn't replace the entire can, just the front end. There was no stamp, it's on a form 3. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But time is money, and the 8 months for a replacement and stamp is expensive. Good to hear huntertown replaced it. Was this old huntertown or recent? They didn't replace the entire can, just the front end. There was no stamp, it's on a form 3. Why a form 3? I thought you can just send NFA items directly to the manufacturer without any kind of paperwork? |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 10:43:20 AM EDT
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Why a form 3? I thought you can just send NFA items directly to the manufacturer without any kind of paperwork? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But time is money, and the 8 months for a replacement and stamp is expensive. Good to hear huntertown replaced it. Was this old huntertown or recent? They didn't replace the entire can, just the front end. There was no stamp, it's on a form 3. Why a form 3? I thought you can just send NFA items directly to the manufacturer without any kind of paperwork? He's probably a dealer. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 9:00:33 PM EDT
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I burned the finish off the outside of the can, trying out a Fostech stock with a Beta mag..
Can internals are still just fine. 
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