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Posted: 5/11/2005 9:13:56 AM EST
I have an Eotech on one of my AR-15's and that is a supurb peice of equipment. I have also been given a recommendation for a Aimpoint CompML2 for the M1A application.

I usually like to go with what I know, but the Eotech mounts much further to the rear on the AR-15 and what ever I get for the SOCOM will have to mount much more forward towards the muzzle. Does that make the Aimpoint better for the SOCOM?

Or should I just stick with iron sights!

What everyone recommendation?
Link Posted: 5/11/2005 2:11:35 PM EST

Or should I just stick with iron sights!


+1
Link Posted: 5/11/2005 6:05:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/11/2005 6:05:52 PM EST by macman37]
While the irons on an M1a are a work of art, an EOtech with the GG&G quick release works for me.
Link Posted: 5/11/2005 7:04:46 PM EST
I've had an Aimpoint on my M16 and now my ar15.  I've always tried to mount it as forward as possible.  I love it.  I've also used a Eotech, and liked it as well.  It seems like they were designed to be mounted further back as you said.  Has anyone mounted an Eotech forward?
Link Posted: 5/11/2005 7:10:54 PM EST
Doesn't the Aimpoint mount lower than the EOTech? That might be a consideration, to stay as close to the bore line.
Link Posted: 5/11/2005 10:33:59 PM EST
I'm partial to Aimpoints. Especially with the new 2 moa CompM3 I just got! I upgraded from an M2.
Link Posted: 5/12/2005 5:03:27 AM EST
I'm going to be buying a SOCOM before the end of the month and I was thinking an Aimpoint would be perfect.

However, just last night I started thinking I might try a Reflex on it first.


Wonder if anyone has experience with a Reflex on a SOCOM?
Link Posted: 5/12/2005 5:10:44 AM EST

Originally Posted By chiz45:
Doesn't the Aimpoint mount lower than the EOTech? That might be a consideration, to stay as close to the bore line.



I don't have both, but I've played with my dad's Aimpoint and I think the sight line on the EOTech is lower than the sight line on the Aimpoint. Either will cause you to significantly change your cheek weld on the stock (read: your cheek weld will be more like a "jaw weld")

I don't know if they have low rise rings for the Aimpoint though so my data could be skewed.  
Link Posted: 5/12/2005 6:44:15 AM EST
I've got a reflex on mine - I would think that it, or the aimpoint would be your best bet given the forward mount.

Either way, get an adjustable cheekrest from Rooster, I hate the jaw weld.
Link Posted: 5/12/2005 6:46:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By chiz45:
Doesn't the Aimpoint mount lower than the EOTech? That might be a consideration, to stay as close to the bore line.



Yes, I have used both on an M1A scout. You can mount the Aimpoint lower. Both fine optics though.
Link Posted: 5/12/2005 7:53:48 AM EST
I had the Aimpoint on my Scout and now I have the EOTech.
I really like the simple built-in mount on the EOTech.

My advise:
Shoot with your iron sights and wait for the 4x EOTech to come out in a few months.
It will have a dedicated 7.62mm reticle
Link Posted: 5/12/2005 8:05:55 AM EST
aimpoint, or just plain irons
Link Posted: 5/12/2005 7:37:55 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 2:27:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By avengeusa:
aimpoint, or just plain irons



+1
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 3:15:34 AM EST
Know how to use your irons as many have said.

The Eo Tech doesn't look right to me on a M14 I'd go with a Aimpoint.  
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 3:20:13 AM EST
i picked up a rear peep and drilled it out to make it an improved  "battle sight".  the gun is good out to 200 yds and the irons are a lot more usefull at night (for my old eyes).  having said that i would go aimpoint.
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 4:23:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By BRONZ:
The Eo Tech doesn't look right to me on a M14...  



The EOTech doesn't look wrong on mine


Link Posted: 5/13/2005 5:06:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By H2O_MAN:

Originally Posted By BRONZ:
The Eo Tech doesn't look right to me on a M14...  



The EOTech doesn't look wrong on mine
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I 100% agree with you H. Your sage is sweet looking and the EoTech looks good on it. I was thinking along the lines with a SE mount or scout rail is where it doesn't look right.
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 5:33:33 AM EST
If I did go with an Aimpoint - what mount should I use?
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 8:49:49 AM EST
ARMS 22m68 or LaRue.  I've had experience with those two and like them both.  The LaRue sits up higher than the 22m68 without a spacer, so the ARMS is probably the one to go with.
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 11:50:54 AM EST
LaRue +1
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 12:47:52 PM EST
Eotech looks good on my AR.

Link Posted: 5/13/2005 1:56:12 PM EST
Yes it does Sly
Link Posted: 5/16/2005 5:50:11 PM EST
just read a article in nra rifleman mag it said the 1 moa dot is much better for target past 200 yards the aim point 4moa is too large for long range you may whant too read it before u decide. i also read that the new 4x for eo will mount behind unit so u can disconnect for cqc so it should work with current eotech i hope love mine but would like it to have 4x mag or better for my m1a for longer range. also does any one know if u can co wittness your iron sights if u use a eotech on m1a?? u can on most rifles. that would be great eo for close iron for range ??
Link Posted: 5/16/2005 6:12:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/16/2005 6:14:03 PM EST by H2O_MAN]

Originally Posted By devin_c1:
just read a article in nra rifleman mag it said the 1 moa dot is much better for target past 200 yards the aim point 4moa is too large for long range you may whant too read it before u decide. i also read that the new 4x for eo will mount behind unit so u can disconnect for cqc so it should work with current eotech i hope love mine but would like it to have 4x mag or better for my m1a for longer range. also does any one know if u can co wittness your iron sights if u use a eotech on m1a?? u can on most rifles. that would be great eo for close iron for range ??



No useable co-witness and I’ve been told you won't be able to use any existing optics with the new EOTech 4x.
It will be an all-new optic, magnifier and mount for $600 - $800.
The 5.56mm reticle should be available 1st then the 7.62mm reticle will debut.
Link Posted: 5/19/2005 3:59:25 PM EST
+1 on the Aimpoint M3 with the 2MOA.  The biggest advantage the EOTech has is the smaller center dot.  Now that Aimpoint has the 2MOA dot, that advantage has been greatly reduced.  I also agree that the EOTech sits too high versus the Aimpoint if you want to use a USGI stock.  However, if you go with a Sage stock or install a cheek piece on the rifle, the height difference between the Aimpoint and EOTech is negated.
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 9:49:23 AM EST
I put a reflex on a Scout/Squad rail and it was just a touch high.  This was also with a ARMS low mount throw lever, #15 I think.

I eventually put a aimpoint and it worked well.

David
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