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Posted: 8/13/2007 3:41:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2007 4:13:29 PM EDT by GroundFire201]
Nikon or Super Sniper or Bushnell

I was thinking about the Nikon because it has a variable power but don't know which is a better quality glass. What's your opinion based on experience on these items or brands?

Its going on an M1A if that matters.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 5:01:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2007 7:08:56 AM EDT by southpaw67]
Both are very good glass.

I am beginning to rethink my opinions of fixed power scopes. I am beginning to prefer variables.

I would look at the 4.5-14 mildot Buckmaster.

ETA
Ive had both scopes. I still have a SS10X. It is on my Bushmaster BAR-10 .308

I also have a couple Burris Fullfield II 2-7X. 1 is the Tactical version, the other is the regular FFII. they all have the Burris Ballisticplex BDC reticle The are less than $300
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 6:24:30 AM EDT
This may not be a very popular opinion, but I'd go with the Nikon.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 7:16:26 AM EDT
What about one of the Leupold Mark2 scopes?
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 7:27:34 AM EDT

What about one of the Leupold Mark2 scopes?


$300? LOL.

Nikon.

Bang Bang,
Bill
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 10:33:32 AM EDT
I have a 20x Super Sniper on my AR50.

I have a 10x Super Sniper on my AR10T.

I have a 10x Super Sniper on my AR30.

I have a 10x Super Sniper on my 110FP.

Guess which one gets my vote.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 10:43:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2007 10:53:28 AM EDT by highwayman]
I find the clarity of my Nikon just a tiny bit better than the Super Sniper. It's barely noticeable though. I believe that the SS is more durable and easier to adjust. If you do the "mushy turret fix" it will make a world of difference. Both are quality and you won't go wrong with either. MJD

*edit* Didn't notice you were looking at a 6-18 power. That's kinda nutty. Unless you're shooting REALLY long distances I can't rationalize anything over 12 power. At 18X your eye relief is very short and field of view is quite narrow. Plus, that Nikon has 1/8" adjustments. That's fine if you want a scope for a dedicated target rifle. I'd get the SS over that particular scope. The SS has a larger tube diameter, 1/4" adjustments, and larger objective for more light transmission. MJD
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 10:55:00 AM EDT
Save the cash and get a Bushnell 3200 Elite 10x40 Tactical for 189 bucks.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 11:53:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Blackmagic94:
Save the cash and get a Bushnell 3200 Elite 10x40 Tactical for 189 bucks.


+1, I found mine for $169.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 2:41:27 PM EDT
Damn you!!!!



I have no problem shooting 2.25" 5 shot groups with my PTR91 at 330 meters with crappy ammo and this 3200 Tactical scope without a bipod.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 4:13:04 PM EDT
I like a variable power scope so I can shoot 100 to 800 yards and dont think 10x will be enough for 800 yard shooting. I also like 30 mm tube and 1/4 MOA turrets.

The question is which of the 3 has clearer glass and holds a zero better.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 4:32:24 PM EDT
Nikon makes the best optics of the bunch you posted. I'd never buy another POS "Super Sucker" scope.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:48:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GroundFire201:
I like a variable power scope so I can shoot 100 to 800 yards and dont think 10x will be enough for 800 yard shooting. I also like 30 mm tube and 1/4 MOA turrets.

The question is which of the 3 has clearer glass and holds a zero better.



Works fine for the military as there are guys making shots at 1200 meters with M40A1 rifles with 10x optics.


May I suggest a nice seeing eye dog instead?
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:53:37 AM EDT
The Bushnell Elite is made in Japan and will have the best glass.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 9:56:20 AM EDT
The Super Sniper I have was made in Japan. Are they made somewhere else now?
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 10:05:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By brasidas:
The Bushnell Elite is made in Japan and will have the best glass.


Because it is made in Japan? If that is the reason, it should be no better than the Super Sniper.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 10:06:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GenghisKhan:
The Super Sniper I have was made in Japan. Are they made somewhere else now?


No.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 10:07:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GroundFire201:
I like a variable power scope so I can shoot 100 to 800 yards and dont think 10x will be enough for 800 yard shooting. I also like 30 mm tube and 1/4 MOA turrets.

The question is which of the 3 has clearer glass and holds a zero better.


My 20X on my AR50 holds zero just fine. So do my 10x Super Snipers on some other rifles of mine, but if it will hold zero on a .50 BMG rifle, it should hold it on anything.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 4:49:35 PM EDT
wish I could post a poll but don't know how
Link Posted: 8/16/2007 6:03:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GroundFire201:
wish I could post a poll but don't know how


You should have an "add poll" tab....from there it is easy
Link Posted: 8/16/2007 6:06:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Blackmagic94:

I have no problem shooting 2.25" 5 shot groups with my PTR91 at 330 meters with crappy ammo and this 3200 Tactical scope without a bipod.


You are good.
Link Posted: 8/16/2007 9:29:05 AM EDT
I have a Nikon Monarch & a Super Sniper, but if I were buying another for my M1A I'd get another Nikon. It's much clearer than my SS by a long shot.
Link Posted: 8/16/2007 2:29:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/16/2007 5:20:14 PM EDT by GroundFire201]
Im thinking of the Nikon and zero it in at 100 yards
So, 1/8 MOA means at 800 yards I should click up once to move the point of impact 1 inch
And at 400 yards 2 clicks up to move the point of impact 1 inch
And at 200 yards 4 .....
Is this correct?
Link Posted: 8/17/2007 4:02:41 AM EDT
i own nightforce, leupold, and nikon (just 1 nikon) i personally dont care for the buckmaster. i have it mounted on my savage .17hmr and feel that the reticle is to wide in the center where they cross. my .02 i would either (not purchase) but look through the SS or try to find a leup used on ebay and see which one fits your needs better....i would pass on the nikon
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