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Posted: 7/16/2002 12:41:53 PM EST
Springfield XD40

Kimber ProCarry

H&K USP

One of these will be added to my stable at the end of the month it will be carried as I see fit.

Thanks, Ropes
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 12:46:19 PM EST
Without hesitation, HK USP !!!
I currently have two USP's, a fullsize and compact both in .45 and they won't be the last.
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 1:00:30 PM EST
Kimber ProCarry !!!!
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 1:02:00 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 1:05:58 PM EST
I'll 2nd the Pro Carry.

I have both a USP .40 and a Pro Carry .45 and there is just something about the Pro Carry.
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 1:07:40 PM EST
The Kimber. H&K is like a lot of German stuff, over-priced and over-complicated.
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 1:09:41 PM EST
Why not all three?
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 1:10:08 PM EST
Kimber ProCarry
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 1:12:36 PM EST
USP.
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 1:15:14 PM EST
I wurden die USP kaufen... naturlich!
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 1:19:18 PM EST
With no hesitation, the USP45.

Link Posted: 7/16/2002 1:22:09 PM EST
I don't think you could go wrong with any of them.

I like my USP fullsize in 45. I picked up an HS2000 before Springfield bought them out, and it fits my hand better than any other auto I've owned. I've never owned a 1911 though....
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 1:28:49 PM EST
Assuming they all "fit" equally well, my vote would be the H&K.
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 1:30:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By 223-Buckaroo:
With no hesitation, the USP45.




But that's the HK PDW/MP7?
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 1:31:23 PM EST
Kimber Pro
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 1:34:51 PM EST
The H&K USP.
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 1:36:30 PM EST
All good choices, but I'd go with the Sprinfield Ultra Compact V-10 oops, I meant the Kimber
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 2:00:20 PM EST
I would love to buy all three this month, but I am stuck with only one pistol.

I also have to buy a RRA 20 stainless upper for a lower I just finished yesterday ;o}

It will be a decent month
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 2:11:00 PM EST
Kimber
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 2:15:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/16/2002 2:20:24 PM EST by ipschoser1]
Easy.

1/ Kimber

2/ XD40

3/ HK

I own the first two and have fired the HK. The 45 is the way to go for a defensive round. The XD is an awesome gun and I love mine but it ain't no 1911! It is, however, the next best thing and does have some unique advantages.
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 2:18:50 PM EST
H&K USP.....easy choice.
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 2:20:46 PM EST
If your life is going to depend on it, KIMBER.

Wanna impress your friends, Hk
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 2:27:26 PM EST

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:

Originally Posted By 223-Buckaroo:
With no hesitation, the USP45.




But that's the HK PDW/MP7?




Ummmmmm....... NO. Look at it again.
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 2:29:00 PM EST
USP. Best gun out there.
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 2:29:22 PM EST
With the list that you have go with the HK USP. Everyone needs a USP, then think about the 1911's
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 2:42:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By 223-Buckaroo:

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:

Originally Posted By 223-Buckaroo:
With no hesitation, the USP45.




But that's the HK PDW/MP7?




Ummmmmm....... NO. Look at it again.



Ummmmmmm....... NO. It WAS the PDW.
Da bastard went and changed it.
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 2:44:46 PM EST
Haha,
When I first saw your post I thought you were selling another
Tec9 again.
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 2:45:13 PM EST

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:

Originally Posted By 223-Buckaroo:
With no hesitation, the USP45.




But that's the HK PDW/MP7?



You.. you.. silly ignoramus... you... I'd rather not say what for fear of being banned. Anyway, the PDW aka MP7 looks like this:

see the difference?
shocked silly aren'tcha?
I can feel the pain, that's ignorance leaving the body. Your sins are forgiven...

Back to the original post:

Never mind any of them: Take the SIG P226

SIG out,

Doggonit (The SIGer strikes again!)



Link Posted: 7/16/2002 2:54:18 PM EST
If you are looking for a carry gun, the Kimber is the way to go I think. It's designed for carry and fires a real stopper. The USP in compact modes might be carryable, but they are chunky guns even in compact versions. The Springfield is a pretty good sized service pistol aimed primarily at the police and home defense market, not the concealed carry market.

The Kimber is the gun to get if Concealed Carry is in the future.
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 2:59:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/16/2002 3:00:17 PM EST by SJSAMPLE]

Originally Posted By Doggonit:
Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:
Originally Posted By 223-Buckaroo:
With no hesitation, the USP45.

But that's the HK PDW/MP7?



You.. you.. silly ignoramus... you... I'd rather not say what for fear of being banned. Anyway, the PDW aka MP7 looks like this:

I can feel the pain, that's ignorance leaving the body. Your sins are forgiven...

Back to the original post:

Never mind any of them: Take the SIG P226

SIG out,

Doggonit (The SIGer strikes again!)

Look up a few posts, Spaz . The original post WAS the PDW, and used the same "accessories" picture that you just posted. You're just a little slower to the posts, than me He changed it AFTER I posted. Awww, fuck it.
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 3:37:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By Doggonit:



I love it !!!!
What cal. and a web site please!!!!
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 3:54:44 PM EST

Holy
Kow

Unbelieveably
Sweet
Pistol


Link Posted: 7/16/2002 4:47:31 PM EST
Kimber, no question about it.

Once you go Kimber you won't go back....


Link Posted: 7/16/2002 6:23:18 PM EST
Sold my HK USP 45 full size cause after 2 years of owning it I just couldn't shoot it as well as my ParaOrdinance P14 limited.


The USP had a crappy trigger, was overly large(boat anchor as another I know puts it), sat way too high out of the hand for me which made it hard to find the sights quickly when doing a presentation on target.


The only thing the USP managed to do was be a rugged/durable firearm, but it took me more shots usually to hit what I was aiming at compared to my 1911.

If I'm lucky I will only be able to master 2-3 handguns in my lifetime, for me the 1911 offers a decisive advantage over the USP with about 90% of the shooting scenerios where I may need a handgun. My skill with the 1911 doesn't yet compare to my skill with a N-framed S&W revolver though which is the reason behind why I own one in 38Spl, 44Mag, and 45LC.


Get out and do a lot of shooting with the guns you are interested in before you make your decision, there may be one gun that is more comfortable to you and shoots more accurately for you than the others.



About the only HK firearm I'm interested in anymore these days is the HK P7M8, that's a fine little gun that points more naturally for me than anything I've ever held in my hands. I'm kicking myself though for not buying an HK MK23 back in the days when it was still legal to buy/own in Ca., even if I had to register it as an assault weapon and even if it was gonna be nothing more than a toy and occasional range gun(1600 bucks I could have gotten one for as new).
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 6:28:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By TheFNG:
If your life is going to depend on it, KIMBER.

Wanna impress your friends, Hk



Yeah, that's why so many Spec Ops guys use HK's....style points. They keep their Kimbers out of sight so as to not tip off the bad guys.
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 6:30:25 PM EST
What ever you buy get something in .45 so you can put someone down quickly. Remember, you may only hit once in a gun fight. Make it count! I've been hearing alot of "sig sig sig". I'm not a big fan because the reported life span isnt all that good. If you do go with a sig get the p220 in .45.
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 8:10:44 PM EST
Without a doubt..........HK
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 9:26:28 PM EST
Out of those choices, I would take the H&K USP. It is a proven and reliable design..and from most accounts, very accurate. The local P.D. here issues these in .40 cal and all of the officers absolutely love them. The chief told me had been a 1911 man all of his life (he was a military man for a number of years) but when he tried the H&K he was hooked. He went on to say that his USP had always been 100% reliable...something that he could not say for his 1911.

I would also take a look at the Sig-Sauer. As much as I like the USP, I tend to even like the Sig P226 or P229 just a bit more. I prefer the way the grip feels, where the control levers are located and the feel of the trigger a bit more on the Sigs. But keep in mind that both are about equal in terms of performance...they are both damn good! The only difference is really just cosmetic things and minor variations in the way they feel.
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 10:01:24 PM EST
Out of your three choices, I would purchase the Kimber and would never even have considered the other two.
Link Posted: 7/16/2002 11:02:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By ilikelegs:

Originally Posted By Doggonit:



I love it !!!!
What cal. and a web site please!!!!




Check it out here: www.hkpro.com/pdw.htm
Link Posted: 7/17/2002 5:11:57 AM EST
Depends on how the guns fit both your hand and your lifestyle...what do you want to do with it?

The H&K will be the toughest and the most reliable, but the Kimber is a close second...especially if it has their teflon-type finish. I find I always shoot a single-stack 1911 better than the larger guns, and that is why, even though I have several .45's and like them all, my regular carry gun is a Kimber.

Still, it is damned hard to beat the USP if it fits.
Link Posted: 7/17/2002 6:28:32 AM EST
The H&K. One is never disappointed when one buys the best.
Link Posted: 7/17/2002 6:36:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By schapman43:
What ever you buy get something in .45 so you can put someone down quickly. Remember, you may only hit once in a gun fight. Make it count! I've been hearing alot of "sig sig sig". I'm not a big fan because the reported life span isnt all that good. If you do go with a sig get the p220 in .45.



Reported life span isn't that good? I have seen a P226 with 75,000 rds. through it, no barrel changes ever, very nice gun, shoots perfectly. Ask Rbad.

SIG out,

Doggonit (The SIGer strikes again)
Link Posted: 7/17/2002 10:21:58 AM EST
HK USP.

For a slightly higher price, look at the HK USP Tactical.

Good luck with whatever choice you make!
Link Posted: 7/17/2002 10:30:05 AM EST
Kimber for me...probably one of the most accurate out-of-the box factory guns i've ever shot; although i am sure the other choices are excellent as well...
Link Posted: 7/17/2002 11:03:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/17/2002 11:15:04 AM EST by JTR]
USP. No doubt about it, that is what I'd pick. (Tactical if you can afford and carry it).


-Justin

Edited becasue my keyboard can't spell. . . . grrr.
Link Posted: 7/17/2002 11:04:51 AM EST
Sold my Kimber to buy a USP Tactical. Did NOT regret the decision.

Standard USPs have a worse trigger than the Kimber. The Tactical's trigger is totally sweet, and by sweet I mean totally cool. ;)

I would take the Kimber or the USP before the Springfield. Fondle both and decide which fits your hand better. That should be a critical part of your decision.
Link Posted: 7/17/2002 11:30:21 AM EST
OH, and HK sells the "Match" triggr that goes in the Tactical, Match, Expert, and Elite individually for the regular USP's.

-Justin
Link Posted: 7/17/2002 11:33:57 AM EST
I strayed from the fold and bought an HK once.

I'm sticking with Sig in the future.



Link Posted: 7/17/2002 11:50:12 AM EST
HK USP .45

I wouldn't even buy the other 2.. I'd get more HK's like a Tactical and maybe even a P7M8..
Link Posted: 7/17/2002 6:24:54 PM EST
Having owned an HK and a Kimber, I would choose the HK. It was/is far more reliable for me.
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