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Posted: 9/30/2016 1:15:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/30/2016 1:15:52 AM EDT by Sputnik556]
I'm having trouble finding a handguard I like in my budget and I'm looking for input. I will be using an 11.5" Noveske barrel and I would like the rail to be between 10"-10.75, closer to he high end if I can.

I was considering a KAC URX II or 3.1 but it's my understanding that the barrel nut makes that a less than stellar choice. There is also the SLR solo but it is very open and I'm not sure I want that if I use a stainless barrel.

I would probably consider a DD rail, but $400 is out of my budget on this one.

What do you guys suggest?
Link Posted: 9/30/2016 1:24:06 AM EDT
did you look at LaRue?
Link Posted: 9/30/2016 3:05:02 AM EDT
BCM KMR Alpha 10 - and it's actually 10.5"
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Originally Posted By FuzzyNet:
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+1
Link Posted: 9/30/2016 7:16:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/30/2016 7:22:43 AM EDT by reelserious]
I just put a Wilson 10.5 inch on my 11.5 and am very happy with it, take a look at it.



wilson
Link Posted: 9/30/2016 8:04:31 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
I was considering a KAC URX II or 3.1
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Your search ends here. I even know a guy that might go out on a limb and send you the Barrel nut wrench to borrow if you return it.
FWIW,
I have a URX III 8" on my wife's 8.5" Noveske Navy barrel and the URX II 10.75 on my 11.5. Love them. Actually thinking of selling a new Geissele MK3 10" to get another URX II for a 14.5" build I'm working on.

KAC GOODNESS


Link Posted: 9/30/2016 10:22:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/30/2016 10:54:57 AM EDT by bradpierson26]
Geissele mk8
ETA: like 9.5"

Link Posted: 9/30/2016 11:06:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/30/2016 11:10:41 AM EDT by Sputnik556]
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Originally Posted By mdw:
did you look at LaRue?
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Originally Posted By mdw:
did you look at LaRue?


I did, and I honestly didn't care for the look.

Originally Posted By FuzzyNet:
BCM KMR Alpha 10 - and it's actually 10.5"


That's what I initially decided on, but everyone has an 11.5" with a KMR10.


Originally Posted By reelserious:
I just put a Wilson 10.5 inch on my 11.5 and am very happy with it, take a look at it.



wilson

Same deal as the Larue there.




Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Geissele mk8
ETA: like 9.5"

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll241/ppcseniortrip/Mobile%20Uploads/image_32.jpeg

That was my second choice, but it's just a tad too short.
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Your search ends here. I even know a guy that might go out on a limb and send you the Barrel nut wrench to borrow if you return it.
FWIW,
I have a URX III 8" on my wife's 8.5" Noveske Navy barrel and the URX II 10.75 on my 11.5. Love them. Actually thinking of selling a new Geissele MK3 10" to get another URX II for a 14.5" build I'm working on.

KAC GOODNESS


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Originally Posted By MrFrZZ:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
I was considering a KAC URX II or 3.1



Your search ends here. I even know a guy that might go out on a limb and send you the Barrel nut wrench to borrow if you return it.
FWIW,
I have a URX III 8" on my wife's 8.5" Noveske Navy barrel and the URX II 10.75 on my 11.5. Love them. Actually thinking of selling a new Geissele MK3 10" to get another URX II for a 14.5" build I'm working on.

KAC GOODNESS



What's the best place to get one?

I would prefer a URX II if I could get it, but the 3.1 would be ok too.
Link Posted: 9/30/2016 12:13:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:

What's the best place to get one?

I would prefer a URX II if I could get it, but the 3.1 would be ok too.
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By MrFrZZ:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
I was considering a KAC URX II or 3.1



Your search ends here. I even know a guy that might go out on a limb and send you the Barrel nut wrench to borrow if you return it.
FWIW,
I have a URX III 8" on my wife's 8.5" Noveske Navy barrel and the URX II 10.75 on my 11.5. Love them. Actually thinking of selling a new Geissele MK3 10" to get another URX II for a 14.5" build I'm working on.

KAC GOODNESS



What's the best place to get one?

I would prefer a URX II if I could get it, but the 3.1 would be ok too.


Lanbo's, Operation parts, Bolt Carrier. Not sure if they're in stock ATM though.

IM sent....
Link Posted: 9/30/2016 1:21:27 PM EDT
Operation parts has 2 10.75" URX II's in stock.
Link Posted: 9/30/2016 1:33:49 PM EDT
Everyone has the KMR-A cause it's a great rail.
That should be more motivation to get one, not less.

Link Posted: 9/30/2016 2:09:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LeonC:
Everyone has the KMR-A cause it's a great rail.
That should be more motivation to get one, not less.

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They need one in mlok
Link Posted: 9/30/2016 2:25:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FuzzyNet:
BCM KMR Alpha 10 - and it's actually 10.5"
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Originally Posted By MrFrZZ:



Your search ends here. I even know a guy that might go out on a limb and send you the Barrel nut wrench to borrow if you return it.
FWIW,
I have a URX III 8" on my wife's 8.5" Noveske Navy barrel and the URX II 10.75 on my 11.5. Love them. Actually thinking of selling a new Geissele MK3 10" to get another URX II for a 14.5" build I'm working on.

KAC GOODNESS


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Originally Posted By MrFrZZ:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
I was considering a KAC URX II or 3.1



Your search ends here. I even know a guy that might go out on a limb and send you the Barrel nut wrench to borrow if you return it.
FWIW,
I have a URX III 8" on my wife's 8.5" Noveske Navy barrel and the URX II 10.75 on my 11.5. Love them. Actually thinking of selling a new Geissele MK3 10" to get another URX II for a 14.5" build I'm working on.

KAC GOODNESS





This. I have SR15's and recently use the 3.1 on an 11.5" build. My favorite handguard.
Link Posted: 9/30/2016 8:24:21 PM EDT
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They need one in mlok
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By LeonC:
Everyone has the KMR-A cause it's a great rail.
That should be more motivation to get one, not less.


They need one in mlok


True.

I would prefer one in MLOK, instead of keymod.
I loathe keymod, but alas it really is a great rail - keymod aside. (And I wanted a factoryish BCM SBR)
Link Posted: 9/30/2016 8:52:58 PM EDT
I really love the SLR Ion Lite M-lok. Thin, very light and they come in every conceivable size. I was initially hesitant about the mounting system, but after mounting my first one I can't imagine anyone ever dislodging one from the barrel nut. I now I have them on both my ARs.

This is a 9.7" on a 10.3" barrel:

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DSC_1660 by FredMan, on Flickr

DSC_1662 by FredMan, on Flickr
Link Posted: 9/30/2016 9:34:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By williamec:
I really love the SLR Ion Lite M-lok. Thin, very light and they come in every conceivable size. I was initially hesitant about the mounting system, but after mounting my first one I can't imagine anyone ever dislodging one from the barrel nut. I now I have them on both my ARs.

This is a 9.7" on a 10.3" barrel:

<a href="http://s720.photobucket.com/user/weconway/media/Guns/AP_sbr_sm_2_zpsc3qczzbo.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww205/weconway/Guns/AP_sbr_sm_2_zpsc3qczzbo.jpg</a>
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Love those colors
I also love my 12.x" SLR mlok
Link Posted: 9/30/2016 9:45:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
I'm having trouble finding a handguard I like in my budget and I'm looking for input. I will be using an 11.5" Noveske barrel and I would like the rail to be between 10"-10.75, closer to he high end if I can.

I was considering a KAC URX II or 3.1 but it's my understanding that the barrel nut makes that a less than stellar choice. There is also the SLR solo but it is very open and I'm not sure I want that if I use a stainless barrel.

I would probably consider a DD rail, but $400 is out of my budget on this one.

What do you guys suggest?
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Kmr or kmr-a.
Link Posted: 9/30/2016 10:51:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
I'm having trouble finding a handguard I like in my budget and I'm looking for input. I will be using an 11.5" Noveske barrel and I would like the rail to be between 10"-10.75, closer to he high end if I can.

I was considering a KAC URX II or 3.1 but it's my understanding that the barrel nut makes that a less than stellar choice. There is also the SLR solo but it is very open and I'm not sure I want that if I use a stainless barrel.

I would probably consider a DD rail, but $400 is out of my budget on this one.

What do you guys suggest?
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Also keep in mind that with the URX the barrel but configuration makes the rail very simple to install. Probably the easiest of any rail I've ever done. The gas tube can be inserted before the rail is exited and barrel but tightened. It's stupid easy and is one but holding the rail on. No Allen screws or huge barrel nut assembly. It's clean and simple.
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Also keep in mind that with the URX the barrel but configuration makes the rail very simple to install. Probably the easiest of any rail I've ever done. The gas tube can be inserted before the rail is exited and barrel but tightened. It's stupid easy and is one but holding the rail on. No Allen screws or huge barrel nut assembly. It's clean and simple.
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Originally Posted By cms81586:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
I'm having trouble finding a handguard I like in my budget and I'm looking for input. I will be using an 11.5" Noveske barrel and I would like the rail to be between 10"-10.75, closer to he high end if I can.

I was considering a KAC URX II or 3.1 but it's my understanding that the barrel nut makes that a less than stellar choice. There is also the SLR solo but it is very open and I'm not sure I want that if I use a stainless barrel.

I would probably consider a DD rail, but $400 is out of my budget on this one.

What do you guys suggest?


Also keep in mind that with the URX the barrel but configuration makes the rail very simple to install. Probably the easiest of any rail I've ever done. The gas tube can be inserted before the rail is exited and barrel but tightened. It's stupid easy and is one but holding the rail on. No Allen screws or huge barrel nut assembly. It's clean and simple.

The only thing that gives me pause on the URX is the integral front sight.

I won't be able to buy an optic for awhile and it doesn't look like it would make a very good primary sight.
Link Posted: 10/1/2016 1:18:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:

The only thing that gives me pause on the URX is the integral front sight.

I won't be able to buy an optic for awhile and it doesn't look like it would make a very good primary sight.
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By cms81586:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
I'm having trouble finding a handguard I like in my budget and I'm looking for input. I will be using an 11.5" Noveske barrel and I would like the rail to be between 10"-10.75, closer to he high end if I can.

I was considering a KAC URX II or 3.1 but it's my understanding that the barrel nut makes that a less than stellar choice. There is also the SLR solo but it is very open and I'm not sure I want that if I use a stainless barrel.

I would probably consider a DD rail, but $400 is out of my budget on this one.

What do you guys suggest?


Also keep in mind that with the URX the barrel but configuration makes the rail very simple to install. Probably the easiest of any rail I've ever done. The gas tube can be inserted before the rail is exited and barrel but tightened. It's stupid easy and is one but holding the rail on. No Allen screws or huge barrel nut assembly. It's clean and simple.

The only thing that gives me pause on the URX is the integral front sight.

I won't be able to buy an optic for awhile and it doesn't look like it would make a very good primary sight.


It works fine, but if you're concerned buy a cheap Magpul front sight to hold you over (although the KAC front sight is probably better anyways).
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It works fine, but if you're concerned buy a cheap Magpul front sight to hold you over (although the KAC front sight is probably better anyways).
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Originally Posted By cms81586:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By cms81586:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
I'm having trouble finding a handguard I like in my budget and I'm looking for input. I will be using an 11.5" Noveske barrel and I would like the rail to be between 10"-10.75, closer to he high end if I can.

I was considering a KAC URX II or 3.1 but it's my understanding that the barrel nut makes that a less than stellar choice. There is also the SLR solo but it is very open and I'm not sure I want that if I use a stainless barrel.

I would probably consider a DD rail, but $400 is out of my budget on this one.

What do you guys suggest?


Also keep in mind that with the URX the barrel but configuration makes the rail very simple to install. Probably the easiest of any rail I've ever done. The gas tube can be inserted before the rail is exited and barrel but tightened. It's stupid easy and is one but holding the rail on. No Allen screws or huge barrel nut assembly. It's clean and simple.

The only thing that gives me pause on the URX is the integral front sight.

I won't be able to buy an optic for awhile and it doesn't look like it would make a very good primary sight.


It works fine, but if you're concerned buy a cheap Magpul front sight to hold you over (although the KAC front sight is probably better anyways).


I suppose I could do that.

I'll probably just use a DD fixed front sight in that case.
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:


I suppose I could do that.

I'll probably just use a DD fixed front sight in that case.
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Originally Posted By cms81586:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By cms81586:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
I'm having trouble finding a handguard I like in my budget and I'm looking for input. I will be using an 11.5" Noveske barrel and I would like the rail to be between 10"-10.75, closer to he high end if I can.

I was considering a KAC URX II or 3.1 but it's my understanding that the barrel nut makes that a less than stellar choice. There is also the SLR solo but it is very open and I'm not sure I want that if I use a stainless barrel.

I would probably consider a DD rail, but $400 is out of my budget on this one.

What do you guys suggest?


Also keep in mind that with the URX the barrel but configuration makes the rail very simple to install. Probably the easiest of any rail I've ever done. The gas tube can be inserted before the rail is exited and barrel but tightened. It's stupid easy and is one but holding the rail on. No Allen screws or huge barrel nut assembly. It's clean and simple.

The only thing that gives me pause on the URX is the integral front sight.

I won't be able to buy an optic for awhile and it doesn't look like it would make a very good primary sight.


It works fine, but if you're concerned buy a cheap Magpul front sight to hold you over (although the KAC front sight is probably better anyways).


I suppose I could do that.

I'll probably just use a DD fixed front sight in that case.


Try before you judge it. They're consistent and allow for accurate fire.
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I'll do that, thanks.

I'm about 95% sure that I'll be going with the URX
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I prefer the URX 3 and 3.1 but there's nothing wrong with the URX 2 if you need the rail space.
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I prefer the URX 3 and 3.1 but there's nothing wrong with the URX 2 if you need the rail space.
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What's the difference between the 3 and 3.1?
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:


That's what I initially decided on, but everyone has an 11.5" with a KMR10.
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Originally Posted By FuzzyNet:
BCM KMR Alpha 10 - and it's actually 10.5"


That's what I initially decided on, but everyone has an 11.5" with a KMR10.


That *should* tell you something. The KMR is virtually the best handguard around.
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What's the difference between the 3 and 3.1?
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Originally Posted By cms81586:
I prefer the URX 3 and 3.1 but there's nothing wrong with the URX 2 if you need the rail space.

What's the difference between the 3 and 3.1?



The 3 was a transitional rail between the 2 and 3.1. Picture a 3.1 with built in front sight like the 2. It was the best rail they made.
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The 3 was a transitional rail between the 2 and 3.1. Picture a 3.1 with built in front sight like the 2. It was the best rail they made.
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Originally Posted By cms81586:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By cms81586:
I prefer the URX 3 and 3.1 but there's nothing wrong with the URX 2 if you need the rail space.

What's the difference between the 3 and 3.1?



The 3 was a transitional rail between the 2 and 3.1. Picture a 3.1 with built in front sight like the 2. It was the best rail they made.

So the 3.1 doesn't have the built in sight then?
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This, but 7".

I love mine, but I use a flip up front sight gas block.
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That *should* tell you something. The KMR is virtually the best handguard around.
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By FuzzyNet:
BCM KMR Alpha 10 - and it's actually 10.5"


That's what I initially decided on, but everyone has an 11.5" with a KMR10.


That *should* tell you something. The KMR is virtually the best handguard around.


And the alpha is very reasonably priced, and not a hassle to install.
Link Posted: 10/2/2016 2:21:28 PM EDT
I friend of mine has a KMRA13 and I like it, but there are just too many out there in that configuration for me to choose it.
Link Posted: 10/3/2016 11:37:42 AM EDT
SLR Ion ultra lite in 10.7



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SLR Ion ultra lite in 10.7

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I'm building up a 12" sbr, I have a bcm 11.5 upper w/kmr and another 16" w/ kmr. I love the kmr, BUT I'm seriously considering this rail but they don't make it in key or at the length I want. Also debating having the rail cerakoted stealth grey.

ETA: emailed SLR, they may be pushing out a keymod 11" ion ultra in a few weeks for me.
Link Posted: 10/3/2016 10:27:57 PM EDT
I went w/ a KAC. There's not many out there that are in the 10.75" range which is what I like. I like being as close to the muzzle w/ still being able to put a can on it. I just saw the SLR has one like that as well. I wish Geissele would make a 10.75" rail. I'd be all over that. Could also get an 11" rail and chop mod it if using a can.


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SLR Ion ultra lite in 10.7

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After a lot of thought and searching around, I think i'll so with one of these.

I'm thinking maybe the lite rather than the ultra lite.
Link Posted: 10/14/2016 6:41:02 AM EDT
8.5" Noveske 300BLK with an 8" SLR Solo Lite.

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Have you looked at the 10.5 Midwest industry G3 ssm m-lok

11.5 with a 10.5 rail



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Have you looked at the 10.5 Midwest industry G3 ssm m-lok

11.5 with a 10.5 rail

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I like the length, but it isn't quite the look that I'm going for.
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I'm in the same boat, looking for a handgaurd for my 11.5" 6.8 spc. I like the Geissele but it's a bit too short for my liking at 9.5" unless I cut the barrel to 10.5". I'm torn between a Knights 3.1 or 4 and the SLR m lok rails. I'm almost tempted to get another Larue quad rail, they are heavier than the m lok rails out there but built like a brick shit house.

I have 3 other Larue rails and I don't have any complaints with them besides weight. That really isn't a factor with my sbr's as they are light enough for me already. I know everyone is moving in the direction of m lok so I want to give it a shot at the least, picking one that looks good with a good mounting system is my issue.

Eta: Is there anything that keeps the Knight's rails from getting twisted out of square from the reciever besides the barrel nut? Haven't seen anything that says there is, hope someone sees this that has one.
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Originally Posted By IBSlingin:
SLR Ion ultra lite in 10.7

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I like that.


Link Posted: 10/14/2016 10:47:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By IBSlingin:
SLR Ion ultra lite in 10.7

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What upper receiver is that? The lines match up really well with the rail, which I'm going to be getting soon.
Link Posted: 10/14/2016 11:04:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Aby001:
I'm in the same boat, looking for a handgaurd for my 11.5" 6.8 spc. I like the Geissele but it's a bit too short for my liking at 9.5" unless I cut the barrel to 10.5". I'm torn between a Knights 3.1 or 4 and the SLR m lok rails. I'm almost tempted to get another Larue quad rail, they are heavier than the m lok rails out there but built like a brick shit house.

I have 3 other Larue rails and I don't have any complaints with them besides weight. That really isn't a factor with my sbr's as they are light enough for me already. I know everyone is moving in the direction of m lok so I want to give it a shot at the least, picking one that looks good with a good mounting system is my issue.

Eta: Is there anything that keeps the Knight's rails from getting twisted out of square from the reciever besides the barrel nut? Haven't seen anything that says there is, hope someone sees this that has one.
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If installed properly, the URX rail has less chance of rotating than about any rail on the market. Most of the large barrel but/punch rail offerings from other companies rely on Allen screws to secure them from axial rotation. I've seen this system come loose on more than a few rifles. Of that half dozen uppers I've assembled on URX rails I've never had one come loose for any reason, including abusive full auto fire on post sample MG's we used for destructive suppressor testing. I can't say the same for other rails, where Allen screws would loosen after multiple heat cycles if not checked and retorqued periodically.
Link Posted: 10/14/2016 11:47:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By M4-AR:


What upper receiver is that? The lines match up really well with the rail, which I'm going to be getting soon.
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Originally Posted By IBSlingin:
SLR Ion ultra lite in 10.7

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What upper receiver is that? The lines match up really well with the rail, which I'm going to be getting soon.


The upper and lower are from CMT Tactical.
Link Posted: 10/14/2016 11:54:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cms81586:


If installed properly, the URX rail has less chance of rotating than about any rail on the market. Most of the large barrel but/punch rail offerings from other companies rely on Allen screws to secure them from axial rotation. I've seen this system come loose on more than a few rifles. Of that half dozen uppers I've assembled on URX rails I've never had one come loose for any reason, including abusive full auto fire on post sample MG's we used for destructive suppressor testing. I can't say the same for other rails, where Allen screws would loosen after multiple heat cycles if not checked and retorqued periodically.
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Originally Posted By Aby001:
I'm in the same boat, looking for a handgaurd for my 11.5" 6.8 spc. I like the Geissele but it's a bit too short for my liking at 9.5" unless I cut the barrel to 10.5". I'm torn between a Knights 3.1 or 4 and the SLR m lok rails. I'm almost tempted to get another Larue quad rail, they are heavier than the m lok rails out there but built like a brick shit house.

I have 3 other Larue rails and I don't have any complaints with them besides weight. That really isn't a factor with my sbr's as they are light enough for me already. I know everyone is moving in the direction of m lok so I want to give it a shot at the least, picking one that looks good with a good mounting system is my issue.

Eta: Is there anything that keeps the Knight's rails from getting twisted out of square from the reciever besides the barrel nut? Haven't seen anything that says there is, hope someone sees this that has one.


If installed properly, the URX rail has less chance of rotating than about any rail on the market. Most of the large barrel but/punch rail offerings from other companies rely on Allen screws to secure them from axial rotation. I've seen this system come loose on more than a few rifles. Of that half dozen uppers I've assembled on URX rails I've never had one come loose for any reason, including abusive full auto fire on post sample MG's we used for destructive suppressor testing. I can't say the same for other rails, where Allen screws would loosen after multiple heat cycles if not checked and retorqued periodically.

Correct. I have a URX4 on a 9mm SBR that has never given me any issues. Very solid.

Link Posted: 10/15/2016 11:23:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By cms81586:


If installed properly, the URX rail has less chance of rotating than about any rail on the market. Most of the large barrel but/punch rail offerings from other companies rely on Allen screws to secure them from axial rotation. I've seen this system come loose on more than a few rifles. Of that half dozen uppers I've assembled on URX rails I've never had one come loose for any reason, including abusive full auto fire on post sample MG's we used for destructive suppressor testing. I can't say the same for other rails, where Allen screws would loosen after multiple heat cycles if not checked and retorqued periodically.
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Originally Posted By cms81586:
Originally Posted By Aby001:
I'm in the same boat, looking for a handgaurd for my 11.5" 6.8 spc. I like the Geissele but it's a bit too short for my liking at 9.5" unless I cut the barrel to 10.5". I'm torn between a Knights 3.1 or 4 and the SLR m lok rails. I'm almost tempted to get another Larue quad rail, they are heavier than the m lok rails out there but built like a brick shit house.

I have 3 other Larue rails and I don't have any complaints with them besides weight. That really isn't a factor with my sbr's as they are light enough for me already. I know everyone is moving in the direction of m lok so I want to give it a shot at the least, picking one that looks good with a good mounting system is my issue.

Eta: Is there anything that keeps the Knight's rails from getting twisted out of square from the reciever besides the barrel nut? Haven't seen anything that says there is, hope someone sees this that has one.


If installed properly, the URX rail has less chance of rotating than about any rail on the market. Most of the large barrel but/punch rail offerings from other companies rely on Allen screws to secure them from axial rotation. I've seen this system come loose on more than a few rifles. Of that half dozen uppers I've assembled on URX rails I've never had one come loose for any reason, including abusive full auto fire on post sample MG's we used for destructive suppressor testing. I can't say the same for other rails, where Allen screws would loosen after multiple heat cycles if not checked and retorqued periodically.
i agree , the urx is a solid rail. hell , trying to get one to rotate during disassembly is a booger.

if you go urx and think you might want to take it apart in the future look into the d. wilson tool steel barrel nuts

also if you like the monolithic upper look you can time the urx to the upper receiver so there is no gap between the rail and receiver.

the slr rails are nice also. they're light and have a good feel to them. i did have one of the cross bolts break on me on the rail i had.
Link Posted: 10/16/2016 10:00:40 AM EDT
Depending on which can you go with, with the SLR rail you could go with their 10.7 or even the 11" on an 11.5" barrel. i posted that other pic of my blackout because it has a stainless Noveske barrel on it.
I also have a 10" ION Lite on a 10.5". with the SiCo ASR mount its really close.


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