Where can I find the ATF de-mil requirements for a domestic firearm?

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Where can I find the ATF de-mil requirements for a domestic firearm?

Posted: 6/17/2015 8:20:11 PM EDT

I need to de-mil a firearm that is currently legal in the US. I.E. not a 4-cut torch import job.

Posted: 6/17/2015 9:58:01 PM EDT

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Demilling will be the torch job. Perhaps let us help you find an alternative by giving us more information about the situation.

Posted: 6/17/2015 11:36:54 PM EDT

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Is this a hypothetical NFA firearm or a non-NFA firearm?

Posted: 6/18/2015 5:55:10 PM EDT

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I dont think there is a straight answer, but for the most part, it is torch cutting the receiver into 3 main pieces.

I would GUESS, that saw cutting it into 3 main pieces of equal distance apart, and obliterating and disguarding one of those pieces would be enough. It's all about intent. Shouldn't be something you can tack weld together.

Posted: 6/18/2015 7:40:01 PM EDT

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it is a tube based NFA firearm with a single cut through the mag well / ejection port area. Wondering it if it is legal to buy as is.

Posted: 6/18/2015 9:52:12 PM EDT

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Yep, it's legal to purchase. It destroyed and none functional.

Posted: 6/18/2015 10:52:53 PM EDT

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thank you. I was almost sure that torching was only for non-sporting, or otherwise unimportable firearms that were out of country.

Posted: 6/18/2015 10:58:19 PM EDT

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My memory on this is a bit fuzzy...but to play it safe I'd have the receiver cut 1 more time (through the FCG area). I recall 2 pieces isn't good enough, but 3 pieces is A-OK....why, who the hell knows.

If you're buying this from a SOT I'd not worry about it. If it's from a private party, well then I'd probably exercise caution and have them cut it just to be safe.

Posted: 6/18/2015 11:19:34 PM EDT

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Out of curiosity what is it?

Posted: 6/18/2015 11:38:47 PM EDT

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Quoted: I dont think there is a straight answer, but for the most part, it is torch cutting the receiver into 3 main pieces.

I would GUESS, that saw cutting it into 3 main pieces of equal distance apart, and obliterating and disguarding one of those pieces would be enough. It's all about intent. Shouldn't be something you can tack weld together.

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Mind, two torch cuts through two different receivers, and then rewelding into a single pistol receiver is exactly what the Obrez enthusiasts do w/ Mosins.

Posted: 6/19/2015 10:07:04 PM EDT

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it is a tube based NFA firearm with a single cut through the mag well / ejection port area. Wondering it if it is legal to buy as is.

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If it is the Swedish K on gunbroker, I would not touch that or any other single saw cut NFA firearm....not worth the visit from the alphabet boys.

That thing could easily be tack welded or even duct-taped and fired.

Posted: 6/23/2015 9:32:56 PM EDT

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If it is the Swedish K on gunbroker, I would not touch that or any other single saw cut NFA firearm....not worth the visit from the alphabet boys.

That thing could easily be tack welded or even duct-taped and fired.

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it is a tube based NFA firearm with a single cut through the mag well / ejection port area. Wondering it if it is legal to buy as is.

If it is the Swedish K on gunbroker, I would not touch that or any other single saw cut NFA firearm....not worth the visit from the alphabet boys.

That thing could easily be tack welded or even duct-taped and fired.

Haha. You got me. That is what I was looking at.

I sent him a message and he wanted something like $1500 for it so the saw cut ended up not being an issue.

How is yours coming along? You should make an ARF thread in PCC.

Posted: 6/25/2015 4:00:23 PM EDT

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Haha. You got me. That is what I was looking at.

I sent him a message and he wanted something like $1500 for it so the saw cut ended up not being an issue.

How is yours coming along? You should make an ARF thread in PCC.

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it is a tube based NFA firearm with a single cut through the mag well / ejection port area. Wondering it if it is legal to buy as is.

If it is the Swedish K on gunbroker, I would not touch that or any other single saw cut NFA firearm....not worth the visit from the alphabet boys.

That thing could easily be tack welded or even duct-taped and fired.

Haha. You got me. That is what I was looking at.

I sent him a message and he wanted something like $1500 for it so the saw cut ended up not being an issue.

How is yours coming along? You should make an ARF thread in PCC.

Semi build is going well. Just need to weld lower rails (kinda nerve racking, weld quality here makes of breaks the build) , and rivet components in. Then it will have a few trips to the range before being blasted and coated.

Posted: 6/28/2015 2:30:32 PM EDT

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The item is back up if anyone wants to see it:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=491261826

Posted: 7/2/2015 9:20:16 AM EDT

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The demill may be good to go. The standards have changed over the years . It started with a single saw cut and has gotten progressively more aggressive to torch cuts with material missing. As long as it was done correctly at the time it was cut you are good to go.

Posted: 7/2/2015 10:01:07 AM EDT

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The demill may be good to go. The standards have changed over the years . It started with a single saw cut and has gotten progressively more aggressive to torch cuts with material missing. As long as it was done correctly at the time it was cut you are good to go.

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Exactly. That one's good to go. It's a non-firearm "parts kit" right now.

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