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Posted: 1/18/2015 8:02:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/18/2015 8:05:53 PM EST by dragunov]
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 8:08:04 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 8:09:04 PM EST
Rifle:

1. dry tumble
2. lube and resize/deprime
3. wipe off lube
4. check case length
5. trim if needed
6. chamfer and deburr

Straight-wall Pistol:

1. dry tumble
2. resize/deprime, less lube (carbide dies)
3. expand & bell

I tumble to remove soot, dirt, scratches, and blemishes. The case lube wipes off easily. I also get a lot of mileage out of my media because there isn't any case lube fouling it up.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 8:13:52 PM EST
I don't tumble anymore - trying to cut down on lead exposure so I use a sonic cleaner for everything now. I use a universal decapping die to remove the primers first to try and keep the water/cleaner cleaner, longer.

When I was tumbling I always tumbled first, resized, trimmed

-Millbarge
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 8:19:03 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/18/2015 11:15:34 PM EST
1 tumble walnut.
2 size /trim corncob/walnut.
3 load.
4 tumble corncob/ nufinish.
5 shoot.
Rinse and repeat.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 11:28:21 PM EST
If they are really crusty and dirty, I'll start with a wash in the sink.
1. Decapped with universal decapping die.
2. Cleaned in ultrasonic cleaner.
3. Lube
4. Resized
5. Case prep
6. Ultrasonic cleaner again to remove lube.
7. Prime
8. Charge
9. Seat bullet
10. Polish in vibratory tumbler with walnut and Mothers polish.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 12:29:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By dragunov:
Great replies.

What I don't understand is how you wipe the lube off if you are not tumbling it clean.

I use three different case lubes and each are sticky messes.

This Spray on lube is alcohol based and is the easiest type for me to use (spray on, alcohol evaporates, cases are slick and sticky).

Also this liquid lube is used with a pad, harder to use and equally sticky.

last is this waxy lube. Very easy to clean off but has to be applied with the fingers and is messy.

If you are cleaning the lube by hand, how do you do it without making a disgusting mess?
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I use the RCBS case lube with the application pad (I've also used the spray). I take a hand towel, about 10 rounds at a time and roll them in the towel for about 5 seconds. Gets 99% of the gunk off of them.
*note*: I don't lube inside the case neck when resizing. I've never found it necessary.

Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:14:46 AM EST
I voted other. For me...
1. dry tumble in walnut to get big chucks and dirt out
2. cheap bastard spray lube in ziplock. Shake to cover all cases
3. deprime and resize
4. wet tumble to remove lube and clean primer pockets. I like shiny brass.
5. Size. if brass is long then I trim
6 chamfer/deburr if necessary
7. load
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:43:45 AM EST
I do the following for rifle:

1. Run brass through universal decapper. I have a toolhead on the 650 set up with the decapper so this takes very little time.
2. Wet tumble.
3. Lube with cheap bastard 1:12 lanolin-ISOheet lube. I use the shake and bake method with a gallon ziplock and never had any trouble with inadequate lube inside the case neck
4. Resize
5. Dry tumble in walnut media. Doesn't take long, 15-20 minutes if I had to gues.
6. Trim if needed. This is where I inspect case necks for cracks since I'm picking up each case anyway.
If match loads I'll chamfer next. If blasting brass I'll just move straight to storage.

For pistol:
1. Wet tumble
2. Lube
3. Load.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 1:38:55 PM EST
Universal decap
Wet tumble
Dry
Throw it into the case feeder and load the 5 stations
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 2:33:51 PM EST
I have found that one of the major things I battle on a progressive when loading 1000's of rounds is dirt. Thus, my provess focuses on keeping dirt and grime off the progressive press. My processes:

Rifle:

1.) Decap on hand press with universal decapping die
2.) Wet tumble
3.) Dry in forced air dehydrator
4.) Lube (same way dryflash explained with the box, with the same lube for cheap bastards)
5.) Size cases
6.) Tumble off lube in dry tumbler (15 mins)
7.) Trim, chamfer and deburr with WFT and lathe-mounted tools
8.) Run through progressive - prime, powder, powder check, seat, taper crimp

Pistol:

1.) Decap on hand press with universal decapping die
2.) Wet tumble
3.) Dry in forced air dehydrator
4.) Run through progressive - size, prime, powder + bell, powder check, seat, taper crimp to remove bell



Link Posted: 1/19/2015 2:54:39 PM EST
I dry tumble brass twice for rifle rounds:

First, I tumble in corn cob for 15 - 20 minutes to remove the soot and dirt before lubing and sizing.
Spray with homemade lanolin/isopropyl alcohol lube.

Then on the LNLAP, I decap, and size/trim with a Dillon 1200.

Back into the dry tumbler to remove the lube.

Inspect and then reload.


For pistol, I only tumble once, before I start, to remove range dirt and soot.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 4:11:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By dryflash3:
If you don't have a tumbler, you can go old school like we did before tumblers became available.

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Old school; Wipe grit off fired cases with a clean rag.

Lube and size.

Wipe off lube with a clean rag. Moisten rag with alcohol if you want, I never did.

Your spray lube link is good stuff, it's what I use.

We now make our own for a fraction of the price of Franklin/Dillon spray lube.


Before I started loading for semi-autos (as in a LOT cleaner brass) I used the old school method of a clean shop rag to wipe off the cases. I also use graphite on the case necks when resizing and when I'm all done I took each round (usually did 50 or 60 at a time) and cleaned the graphite and carbon buildup from the neck with #0000 steel wool.

Now that I'm loading for handguns and ARs I tumble the cases before I size them and after I size the rifle cases they get a quick tumble one more time. I have noticed that the little bit of Fritz brass polish in my corn cob media helps keep the pistol cases a little slicker and helps them not stick to the belling/powder die in my Dillon 650.

Link Posted: 1/19/2015 4:44:42 PM EST
I do it this way:

Decap with an off-press hand tool, the Harvey Deprimer
Wet tumble in stainless steel media, separate and dry the brass
Lube, then size cases
Tumble sized cases in plain corn cob media to remove lube
Proceed to loading the cases...

I tend to tumble a metric butt-load of the same or compatible cases, so I have containers of clean, ready to size cases sitting around until I get around to sizing them (sometimes in big batches). Once I've sized and de-lubed a bunch of cases, I either get cracking with loading them, or I put them away for later. I'm kinda behind on some of my "clean and ready to size" stash, since I've been working on a number of projects - at the same time - and putting in a lot of hours at work, but I'm starting to catch up.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 5:10:56 PM EST
Tumble
Lube
Size
Load
Tumble to remove lube.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 5:31:01 PM EST
I always trim my tumble 5.56 / .223Rem cases to length before I tumble them.

Saves me a step by de-burring in the tumbler.

Although there is a slight length change with the subsequent sizing, the brass is always within spec.

For pistol ammo, I tumble as the first step.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 10:23:17 PM EST
The short answer is I tumble cases whenever I need them to be clean for the next step, so it depends on the type of case. I use only walnut media, and what that boils down to is:

- All cases are tumbled before resizing. (Rifle cases are always deprimed before this tumble.)

- Rifle cases are briefly tumbled a second time after all case prep is complete. This removes any lube and stray brass shavings.

Link Posted: 1/20/2015 7:33:31 AM EST
Before sizing. After loading to remove lube (loading with 550B).
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 7:39:56 AM EST
Rifle:
Tumble
Lube
Size
Tumble
Trim
Load

Pistol:
Tumble
Size
Load
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 8:07:27 AM EST
Semi auto/range brass rifle- tumble, prep, tumble

Bolt gun - prep, tumble

Pistol - tumble, load
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 8:12:30 AM EST
I tumble, lube, size, tumble lube off, reload...
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 1:06:51 PM EST
Rifle:
Dry tumble
Lube (Dillon)
Resize/decap
Sonic Clean
Load
Inspect

Pistol:
Dry tumble
Lube (Hornady)
Load
Dry tumble
Inspect
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