With AR stocks?
I'm building a post-ban lower and I want to know what my options are, the standard A2 stock or the fake collapsible?
I want something shorter than the standard A2 stock. Can I pin the collapsible at the second or third notch? Do I just need  to get a pre-ban?

Alternative stocks shorter that an A2:

1)  an A1 stock
2)  LE Entry stock (I forget by whom, but it's in the shotgun news)
3)  I have (what I was told) an older RRA telestyle stock whick looks like the older telestocks with the sling loop on top.  It's maybe a 1/2-3/4 shorter than my Bushy telestyled stock.

I'm not sure pinning the stock will suffice.  you may want to JBweld it also to make it "permanent."

Or you can hope (like all of us) that the AW ban sunsets in 2004