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Posted: 12/22/2006 8:38:06 AM EDT

Some may think it is splitting hair, but I am not sure it is. What do you use and why?

Posted: 12/22/2006 8:43:51 AM EDT

[#1]

I use Bird Shot for HD.
Low recoil for the wife, and less muzzle flash.

Posted: 12/22/2006 8:53:23 AM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:
I use Bird Shot for HD.
Low recoil for the wife, and less muzzle flash.

I don't want to change the subject to 00 vs. birdshot discussion as birdshot is a clear and dangerous mistake. you need to look at theboxotruth:

www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot3.htm

Posted: 12/22/2006 9:48:59 AM EDT

[#3]

I use 1 buck in mine.

Elvis

Posted: 12/22/2006 10:02:34 AM EDT

[#4]

Federal 2 3/4" 00 magnumb buckshot. The stuff with 12 BB's per shell.

I picked it because it patterned the best in my Western Field 550(read Mossy 500) w/18.5" barrel.

ZM

Posted: 12/22/2006 10:05:50 AM EDT

[#5]

fiocchi nickel plated 9 pelet high velocity 00 buck side saddle contains 4 reduced recoil nickel plated 9pelet 00 buck and a 3 inch magum slug.

Posted: 12/22/2006 11:04:23 AM EDT

[#6]

My ideal 2 3/4 oo buckshot would be one with Maximum velocity (1350+ FPS), Maximum number of pellets(12+), and thightest patern achieveable to allow for more precision, and highest reliability. Problem is I don't know any mfgs that makes such shell.

Choices as I see them;
1. Hornady TAP 00 light mag: 1370fps, 8 Pellets, Tightest pattern in the market, High reliability. Three out of Four isn't bad.
2. Nobel Law Enforcement 00 Buckshot: 1290fps, 12 Pellets, Pattern unknown, I don't know anything about its reliability
3. Everything else I have seen is in between the above two.

Any opinions?

Posted: 12/22/2006 11:21:13 AM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
My ideal 2 3/4 oo buckshot would be one with Maximum velocity (1350+ FPS), Maximum number of pellets(12+), and thightest patern achieveable to allow for more precision, and highest reliability. Problem is I don't know any mfgs that makes such shell.

Choices as I see them;
1. Hornady TAP 00 light mag: 1370fps, 8 Pellets, Tightest pattern in the market, High reliability. Three out of Four isn't bad.
2. Nobel Law Enforcement 00 Buckshot: 1290fps, 12 Pellets, Pattern unknown, I don't know anything about its reliability
3. Everything else I have seen is in between the above two.

Any opinions?

the HV load i use is said to be at 1300 fps and has 9 pellets here is a link with info

at the bottom under buckshot

hope this helps

Posted: 12/22/2006 11:24:40 AM EDT

[#8]

Winchester 2 3/4 OOB

Posted: 12/22/2006 12:04:22 PM EDT

[#9]

Federal 12 pellet 00 buck.
ETA: Listen to the box o truth and the above posters, do not use birdshot. Recoil and muzzle flash are not going to matter if the time comes you have to shoot someone in your house. Your adrenaline will take care of that for you.

Posted: 12/22/2006 12:28:49 PM EDT

[#10]

I use the best money can buy.

Federal Flight Control 9 pellet low recoil. LE132-00

I can consistently put 8 of 9 pellets on a B27 silhouette at 50 yards.

Posted: 12/22/2006 1:00:43 PM EDT

[#11]

TAP

Posted: 12/22/2006 1:03:37 PM EDT

[#12]

I have 6 3" 00 Buck winchester super X in my 870

Posted: 12/22/2006 1:56:01 PM EDT

[#13]

12 pellet 00 buck-- "Nobel Sport Law Enforcement"
For HD any buckshot is okay with me; its not going far.

Posted: 12/22/2006 2:06:45 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
12 pellet 00 buck-- "Nobel Sport Law Enforcement"
For HD any buckshot is okay with me; its not going far.

Have you used the Nobel Law Enforcement 00 buckshot? How is the reliability? How does it pattern in your experience? I am looking for a tight pattern in MOD chke.

Posted: 12/22/2006 2:09:28 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
I use the best money can buy.

Federal Flight Control 9 pellet low recoil. LE132-00

I can consistently put 8 of 9 pellets on a B27 silhouette at 50 yards.

How large of a silhouette?

Posted: 12/22/2006 4:13:24 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
How large of a silhouette?

It's not uncommon for the average cylinder bore shotgun to pattern buck at roughly 1 inch per yard of distance. With Federal Flight Control and other improved wad shells you can cut that down to patterns 1/2 to 1/3 that size.

Flight Control will usually throw all 9 pellets within about 20-25 inches at 50 yards.

Posted: 12/22/2006 4:18:40 PM EDT

[#17]

Federal Flight control is awsome shit

distance was approx 15 yards

Posted: 12/22/2006 4:30:21 PM EDT

[#18]

Wow!! That is a tight pattern.

I have never seen it. Who sells it?

Posted: 12/22/2006 4:33:09 PM EDT

[#19]

Tactical loads LE127-00, LE132-00 (low recoil) or LE133-00 (8 pellet low recoil)
Federal Vital-Shok PFC154 00 or PFC154 00LR (low recoil)hunting ammo.
They are both 9 pellet 00 loads featuring the Flitecontol wad

Posted: 12/22/2006 4:54:12 PM EDT

[#20]

Thanks Twonami.

Have you compared it to the TAP?

Posted: 12/22/2006 4:57:18 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
Thanks Twonami.

Have you compared it to the TAP?

Not yet.
Just for the record it wasn't me that fired it but one of the guys at the MN shoot.
I do need to check it against the TAP that I have but I was damned amazed at how tight the Federal was

Posted: 12/22/2006 5:01:41 PM EDT

[#22]

#4 Buck.

Hey, it was free.

Danny

Posted: 12/22/2006 5:52:25 PM EDT

[#23]

My shotguns are loaded with Fiocchi 12GA 00Buck, 9 pellet, Reduced Recoil, Nickel Plated.

I also have some Winchester SuperX 9 pellet 00buck and some Remington 3" #4 buck, 41 pellets that I wouldn't hesitate to use.

Posted: 12/22/2006 6:52:04 PM EDT

[#24]

Posted: 12/22/2006 6:54:06 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
www.ammunitionstore.com/Images/Ammo/A079.4.jpg

Is it me or is that the same stuff as wolf buckshot?

Posted: 12/23/2006 7:04:01 PM EDT

[#26]

Winchester superx 00 buck

Posted: 12/23/2006 7:13:12 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
www.ammunitionstore.com/Images/Ammo/A079.4.jpg

Is it me or is that the same stuff as wolf buckshot?

That is the worst patterning buckshot I have ever tested.

Posted: 12/23/2006 7:14:27 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
Winchester superx 00 buck

yep

got 8 in my winnie + a side saddle if that dont stop 'em it's cause im already dead

Posted: 12/23/2006 7:31:24 PM EDT

[#29]

Federal #4 Buck

Posted: 12/23/2006 7:39:41 PM EDT

[#30]

Federal Tactical 00 Buck

Posted: 12/24/2006 9:53:18 AM EDT

[#31]

I found this link at another site. It is comparison of TAP/FED LE/Ranger 00 patterns. Great information.

TAP/FEDLE/WINRANGER comparison

Posted: 12/24/2006 10:28:11 AM EDT

[#32]

Hornady TAP "00" in mine.

Posted: 12/24/2006 9:55:54 PM EDT

[#33]

The more I read about and see the pictures from that new Federal LE with the FLITECONTROL wad, the more I tell myself i must get some and try it out for my 870 that is my HD shotgun.

Posted: 12/24/2006 10:08:01 PM EDT

[#34]

Remington 3 1/2" 00 buck. For when you abosolutely, positively have to put as much lead on target as possible

Posted: 12/25/2006 6:46:27 AM EDT

[#35]

The #00 I use is actually #4.

Posted: 12/26/2006 8:38:51 AM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:
The more I read about and see the pictures from that new Federal LE with the FLITECONTROL wad, the more I tell myself i must get some and try it out for my 870 that is my HD shotgun.

I lean in the same direction. Although TAP seems to generate very similar pattern.

Posted: 12/26/2006 12:55:22 PM EDT

[#37]

Where in the hell does one get a hold of some of this Federal LE with FliteControl? I can't seem to find it locally or even anywhere on-line. I think ammoman has some, but I'm hesitant to buy from him...with everything that I've read here.

Posted: 12/26/2006 12:59:11 PM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The more I read about and see the pictures from that new Federal LE with the FLITECONTROL wad, the more I tell myself i must get some and try it out for my 870 that is my HD shotgun.

I lean in the same direction. Although TAP seems to generate very similar pattern.

The pictures from the second link show the Federal is buffered and the TAP is not. I guess I'll go with the Federal.

Posted: 12/28/2006 7:30:43 AM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:
Where in the hell does one get a hold of some of this Federal LE with FliteControl? I can't seem to find it locally or even anywhere on-line. I think ammoman has some, but I'm hesitant to buy from him...with everything that I've read here.

I just bought 20 boxes from the GT Distributors. Good Price too.

GT Distributors

Posted: 12/28/2006 10:24:01 AM EDT

[#40]

Good price? Those are the shells that came out BEFORE the flite control wad!

Posted: 12/28/2006 11:12:32 AM EDT

[#41]

ammoman.com has the Flight Control LE132-00 for $80 per 100 or $179 for 250.

Posted: 12/28/2006 6:17:05 PM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:
Good price? Those are the shells that came out BEFORE the flite control wad!

LE13300 is the Flight Control stuff (from FED site) , and that's the P/N they are selling. I will call tomorrow and confirm with them.

Posted: 12/29/2006 1:29:53 AM EDT

[#43]

i use 00 buck.

why one would use birdshot in their guage is beyond me. how many here have a house where you can take a shot that is longer than 25yrds? having a stray pellet is not an issue. today's buckshot is a lot better than what was out there 5 years ago. try different brands and see what groups the best.

Posted: 12/30/2006 4:13:10 AM EDT

[#44]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Good price? Those are the shells that came out BEFORE the flite control wad!

LE13300 is the Flight Control stuff (from FED site) , and that's the P/N they are selling. I will call tomorrow and confirm with them.

FYI. Well I spoke to both Federal and GT Distributors. According to FED all their LE13200/13300 buckshot ammo starting 2005 shipped with the Flight Control Wad. Prior to that they shipped without. All boxes W. Flight Control Wad has markings indicating it.

According to GT Distributors, the LE13200/13300 are new shipments and should have the Flight Control Wad. He didn't have the LE13300 in stock as my order was even back ordered but he pulled a box of LE13200 and box indicated that it is Flight Control, so I am happy.