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Posted: 7/19/2013 10:58:42 AM EDT

Does anyone know how to get hold of Honey Creek Industries? There are going to start making US made SIG PE57's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MTb_edw8NE

Edit: I am in contact with him now.

Posted: 7/19/2013 9:13:24 PM EDT

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It's ugly as sin, but I want it!

Posted: 7/21/2013 2:27:35 PM EDT

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Estimates Price?

Arethey going to do 308 builds?

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Posted: 7/21/2013 2:55:35 PM EDT

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The video is of him shooting the .308 version

Posted: 7/22/2013 12:39:01 PM EDT

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Please update if you find out a price.

Posted: 7/22/2013 12:48:13 PM EDT

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The maker must be very busy, I have not heard anything about price or when they might be available.

Posted: 7/22/2013 7:52:39 PM EDT

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Doesn't say if it has the loaded chamber indicator, not that it matters that much.

Posted: 7/22/2013 9:13:41 PM EDT

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It uses original Sig parts minus the sheet metal receiver so it should.

Posted: 7/23/2013 12:00:58 PM EDT

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Update:

I just spoke to Mike Adams of Mag Arms, he makes a repair section for the STGW 57. He does not make and sell rifles, he will assemble your parts kit with his receiver section and new .308 barrel for around $1300.00, or $375 less if your kit has original barrel. He told me that he is booked up with builds until about mid-August at the moment. You can get a kit from either Apex or Colorado Gun Supplies(they do not come with barrel).

Mag Arms
Mike Murray
3019 Keller Hicks Rd
Bldg. 402
Ft. Worth TX 76244
[email protected]
972-768-0652
07 FFL Manufacturer

Posted: 8/4/2013 10:56:36 AM EDT

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WHOOO HOOOO! I have always wanted a PE57 and here is my chance. Poorman, I am calling them Monday but what is your take on it. Does he seem squared away and prepared to do business? I know you do not know him personally, just asking for your opinion based on your conversation with him.
I had Project Guns build a RPD for me while he moved from his old shop to his new one and it was like pulling teeth! For months it was always " two more weeks and it will be ready" when it was done it was great and runs trouble free. Just hope to not go through that again.

Posted: 8/4/2013 2:38:01 PM EDT

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In my opinion, yes, he seemed very squared away. I have also checked a few other forums and he has a good reputation on them as a stand up guy, and I have not seen any bad feedback on his builds. I will be getting my kit from APEX this week and will send it to him when he says he is ready.

Posted: 8/4/2013 5:58:55 PM EDT

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Thanks Poorman, I will contact him tomorrow and it sounds like I will also be calling Apex.

Posted: 8/5/2013 11:19:08 AM EDT

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Any source for magazines?

Posted: 8/5/2013 1:35:03 PM EDT

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http://www.cogunsales.com/index.php/Magazines/Swiss-Army-SIG-PE57-Magazine-24-Rd/flypage.pbv.v1.tpl.html

I am sure you can get some from a European source, they are not that rare over there. I will be looking.

Posted: 8/5/2013 3:32:39 PM EDT

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Poorman,

Thanks for all of your research and groundwork. I just spoke with Mike about scheduling a build and just ordered a parts kit from APEX. Mike was mentioning that his build times are now out to early December.

Thanks again,

Roger

Posted: 8/6/2013 1:15:59 AM EDT

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That sucks, but, I want one so I can wait until Dec

Posted: 8/6/2013 1:26:53 PM EDT

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Take my money !!!

Posted: 8/6/2013 2:22:17 PM EDT

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I am sure you can get some from a European source, they are not that rare over there. I will be looking.

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Typical CO Gun Sales prices, LOL...

Maybe Numrich or Sarco has them a touch cheaper...

Posted: 8/6/2013 3:20:35 PM EDT

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http://www.cogunsales.com/index.php/Magazines/Swiss-Army-SIG-PE57-Magazine-24-Rd/flypage.pbv.v1.tpl.html

I am sure you can get some from a European source, they are not that rare over there. I will be looking.

Typical CO Gun Sales prices, LOL...

Maybe Numrich or Sarco has them a touch cheaper...

I spoke to someone in Switzerland who told me that they are about 15 Swiss Francs there! I am looking into getting some

Posted: 8/6/2013 6:43:39 PM EDT

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Any word if he is planning on doing AMT builds?

I have a friend with an excellent/complete parts kit.

Wpns Man

Posted: 8/6/2013 10:49:15 PM EDT

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I have a friend with an excellent/complete parts kit.

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His receiver section will work on the AMT/510-4 as well. Give him a call.

Posted: 8/8/2013 7:21:49 PM EDT

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Thanks,

I will forward this on........

Wpns Man

Posted: 8/9/2013 10:53:16 AM EDT

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Let me know about the mags from Europe if you are able to get some. It looks like I'll be needing some around the first of next year.

I just got my Apex kit and am sending it down to Mike at Mag Arms.

Posted: 8/13/2013 6:48:57 PM EDT

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Poorman,

If you can get up a group buy on mags I am in. When I ordered my kit from Apex the guy I was talking to said Apex is looking into getting some mags. Maybe if you have a contact you could put your guy with Apex if a licensed importer is needed for magazines.

Posted: 8/13/2013 11:15:21 PM EDT

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There are a few people working on getting mags from a few different places, so I expect someone will get them in

Posted: 8/20/2013 11:22:47 PM EDT

[#25]

this would be a awesome gun to own

Posted: 9/6/2013 5:20:54 PM EDT

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Subscribed! I have an Apex kit, they are pretty nice. 1300 isn't out of line for a build of this nature especially considering the barrel. Will be checking with him to see if they are only .308 builds; I would prefer to keep the Swiss caliber if possible.

Posted: 9/6/2013 5:38:21 PM EDT

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Subscribed! I have an Apex kit, they are pretty nice. 1300 isn't out of line for a build of this nature especially considering the barrel. Will be checking with him to see if they are only .308 builds; I would prefer to keep the Swiss caliber if possible.

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Amen to this, the PE57 in 7.5x55 is my unicorn rifle, I've wanted one forever and never thought I would get the chance to own one, I've got to get in contact with this place

Posted: 9/6/2013 6:34:19 PM EDT

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$2K for a PE57 in 762x51 seems like a good price. Don't like paying $100.00 for mags. But someone should be able to import mags at a reasonable price.

Posted: 9/7/2013 12:27:09 AM EDT

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Subscribed! I have an Apex kit, they are pretty nice. 1300 isn't out of line for a build of this nature especially considering the barrel. Will be checking with him to see if they are only .308 builds; I would prefer to keep the Swiss caliber if possible.

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You can have it built in either 7.5 Swiss or 308. I am having mine done in 7.5 Swiss as I have got hold of a 510-4 kit that I am having built as well

Posted: 9/7/2013 3:55:51 PM EDT

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That is my thought as well. I already have other Swiss rifles, and the ammo isn't any more expensive or harder to find than .308 these days. Plus I'm a SIG nut and tend to be a purist in my collecting so original is a great way to go. I'm also figuring there won't be a lot of these in country, and fewer in the Swiss caliber.

Sounds like you already talked to him. Was pricing the same on either caliber? .308 cartridge has a smaller base, so I was wondering if he had to do bolt mods for that one.

Posted: 9/7/2013 7:02:41 PM EDT

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That is my thought as well. I already have other Swiss rifles, and the ammo isn't any more expensive or harder to find than .308 these days. Plus I'm a SIG nut and tend to be a purist in my collecting so original is a great way to go. I'm also figuring there won't be a lot of these in country, and fewer in the Swiss caliber.

Sounds like you already talked to him. Was pricing the same on either caliber? .308 cartridge has a smaller base, so I was wondering if he had to do bolt mods for that one.

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Yes, I believe price is the same. He does have to modify the bolt head to fit 308.

Posted: 9/16/2013 12:15:29 PM EDT

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Just got my 510-4 kit in!

Posted: 9/16/2013 2:19:38 PM EDT

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anybody have a clue what a 7.5 original barrel is going for these days?

Posted: 9/16/2013 2:36:15 PM EDT

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Mag Arms is making them for $375.00, I have not seen an original Swiss barrel that was not attached to a kit.

Posted: 9/18/2013 12:06:48 AM EDT

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Mag Arms is making them for $375.00, I have not seen an original Swiss barrel that was not attached to a kit.

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Just wondering since my build will be in 308 and my kit currently has a 7.5 barrel on it. i plan on selling it to recover the cost. I already have a pile of 7.5 mags but sincce Mike says the 7.5 mags work fine in the 308 conversion I am not going to go nuts not having the correct mag. I already have a plan for a spacer for the mags as it is anyway.

Posted: 9/18/2013 11:35:02 AM EDT

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Just wondering since my build will be in 308 and my kit currently has a 7.5 barrel on it. i plan on selling it to recover the cost. I already have a pile of 7.5 mags but sincce Mike says the 7.5 mags work fine in the 308 conversion I am not going to go nuts not having the correct mag. I already have a plan for a spacer for the mags as it is anyway.

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anybody have a clue what a 7.5 original barrel is going for these days?

Mag Arms is making them for $375.00, I have not seen an original Swiss barrel that was not attached to a kit.

Just wondering since my build will be in 308 and my kit currently has a 7.5 barrel on it. i plan on selling it to recover the cost. I already have a pile of 7.5 mags but sincce Mike says the 7.5 mags work fine in the 308 conversion I am not going to go nuts not having the correct mag. I already have a plan for a spacer for the mags as it is anyway.

Shoot me a PM I'll buy that 7.5 barrel!

Posted: 9/18/2013 7:39:29 PM EDT

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dang, I shouldn't have hit the snooze button.

Posted: 9/23/2013 5:01:16 AM EDT

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Poorman, by chance do you have Mag Arms barrels contact info? If so, please P/M me since I want to see if they can make a custom Sig barrel for me. THANKS!!

Posted: 9/23/2013 11:47:53 AM EDT

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Poorman, by chance do you have Mag Arms barrels contact info? If so, please P/M me since I want to see if they can make a custom Sig barrel for me. THANKS!!

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PM sent

Posted: 10/12/2013 2:33:37 PM EDT

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I would like that information also, please.

Posted: 10/14/2013 3:26:16 AM EDT

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Does anyone know how to get hold of Honey Creek Industries? There are going to start making US made SIG PE57's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MTb_edw8NE

Edit: I am in contact with him now.

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Cool rifle. Is the presenter in the video blind?

Posted: 11/19/2013 7:50:11 PM EDT

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Any updates from Mike about rifles being built? I have a PE57 kit with him but have been in Haiti for the past two months and was just wondering if anyone has heard anything?

Posted: 11/19/2013 9:34:53 PM EDT

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Any updates from Mike about rifles being built? I have a PE57 kit with him but have been in Haiti for the past two months and was just wondering if anyone has heard anything?

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Mike told me my kit was on schedule to be ready at the end of this month, I will post pics when my receiver arrives. I will be sending my 510-4 to him when I get my '57 receiver back

Posted: 11/28/2013 1:44:41 AM EDT

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This looks good

Posted: 12/9/2013 6:36:54 AM EDT

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I spoke with Mike last week. His day job is taking up a lot of his time and he has been sick. He feels better now but it sounds like it will be awhile before we see our guns. No need to worry yet, just going to take a little longer is what it sounds like.

Posted: 12/10/2013 8:52:26 PM EDT

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Yes, I got that impression as well. Not a big deal to me I have been waiting for decades, a few more weeks/months are not going to kill me

If anyone is interested I have found someone else doing some building these rifles from kits, price is MUCH higher but the work is good.

Posted: 12/12/2013 11:26:46 AM EDT

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this is on my list for next year to own. i so have wanted one of these for many years

308 win would be the caliber for me in this case. makes it easier to load for and i have a crap load of brass

how hard are these guns on brass?

what is the recommened bullet weight

what twist is he supplying with this build

Posted: 12/12/2013 2:48:22 PM EDT

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this is on my list for next year to own. i so have wanted one of these for many years

308 win would be the caliber for me in this case. makes it easier to load for and i have a crap load of brass

how hard are these guns on brass?

what is the recommened bullet weight

what twist is he supplying with this build

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Due to the fluted chamber it is not recommended to reload brass fired from one of these rifles, it chews it up pretty good. But, I have heard of people reloading it anyway.

Here is what a factory STGW 57 barrel does to a brass case: