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Posted: 12/6/2016 2:39:34 PM EDT
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§ 479.102 How must firearms be identified?
(a) You, as a manufacturer, importer, or maker of a firearm, must legibly identify the firearm as follows: (iv) In the case of a domestically made firearm, the city and State (or recognized abbreviation thereof) where you as the manufacturer maintain your place of business, or where you, as the maker, made the firearm; |
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Posted: 12/6/2016 5:55:49 PM EDT
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if it was me, to make it less confusing to LE types, if on the very remote chance I do get checked, I would engrave the city that is on the form 1.
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Posted: 12/6/2016 8:21:07 PM EDT
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if it was me, to make it less confusing to LE types, if on the very remote chance I do get checked, I would engrave the city that is on the form 1. Why would you not just advise that he do the right thing, which is to follow 479.102? |
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Posted: 12/6/2016 8:31:07 PM EDT
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Why would you not just advise that he do the right thing, which is to follow 479.102? I assume he's recommending that the SBR be made in the same location as the address on the Form 1, on the off chance that he is detained by the police and compelled to produce tax forms he's not required to have on him, and that having the engraving and tax document match will be deciding factor in whether he is detained further. |
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Posted: 12/6/2016 8:47:35 PM EDT
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Why would you not just advise that he do the right thing, which is to follow 479.102? all right here, so you feel much better GeorgiaBII follow what 479.102 states. because we all know that every single federal, local and state LE agency knows exactly where you made your SBR to within a 10 digit grid coordinate |
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Posted: 12/7/2016 12:19:33 AM EDT
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§ 479.102 How must firearms be identified? (a) You, as a manufacturer, importer, or maker of a firearm, must legibly identify the firearm as follows: (iv) In the case of a domestically made firearm, the city and State (or recognized abbreviation thereof) where you as the manufacturer maintain your place of business, or where you, as the maker, made the firearm; Want to see ATFs head spin? Ask them what to engrave if you cross state lines to get "help" making your Form 1 item, which is allowable per the NFA handbook. I've heard a couple of reports of people being told to just put the city/state where you registered the thing on the Form 1 rather than the city in a different state where you made it. Wait, ATF contradict law? NEVER!!! 
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Posted: 12/7/2016 2:48:36 AM EDT
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You guys are making my head hurt....
Per 479.102 Do I understand correctly that I should use my current city since that is where it was actually "made"? |
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Posted: 12/7/2016 6:53:08 AM EDT
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Per 479.102 Do I understand correctly that I should use my current city since that is where it was actually "made"? You engrave the location that it first met the definition of an SBR. That would be where you put a stock on with barrel <16" or where you put a <16" upper on a lower with a stock on it. If that's your current city, then that's what you engrave. If you do that at the shooting range one town over, then that's the location you engrave. If you file a 5320.20 and bring it up to SC and do it here, then you'll engrave some place in SC. |
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Posted: 12/7/2016 8:09:08 AM EDT
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Per 479.102 Do I understand correctly that I should use my current city since that is where it was actually "made"? Yes. If you want to meet the regs as written, that's what you do. If you're close enough to the old city, you could also drive over there to attach the upper the first time...which would mean you engrave that city and get the added benefit of it matching your form. Nobody ever knows where you initially made the firearm, which is why I didn't answer the question with a city name the first time...I simply gave you the requirement. |
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Posted: 12/15/2016 8:44:35 PM EDT
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So since I live in ruskin Fla. Which is considered part of Tampa Bay Area Fla or Tampa Bay Fl. I could have put that. Right
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Posted: 12/15/2016 10:49:01 PM EDT
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Why would you not just advise that he do the right thing, which is to follow 479.102? ARFCOM do both Engrave the city in the form, then when approved, return to that city and make it there. |
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Posted: 12/15/2016 10:51:17 PM EDT
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Want to see ATFs head spin? Ask them what to engrave if you cross state lines to get "help" making your Form 1 item, which is allowable per the NFA handbook. I've heard a couple of reports of people being told to just put the city/state where you registered the thing on the Form 1 rather than the city in a different state where you made it. Wait, ATF contradict law? NEVER!!! <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> Yeah because if it is the NFA handbook it must be true. Rofl |
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Posted: 12/19/2016 11:35:32 AM EDT
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Is there something I'm law that makes it illegal to get assistance making your F1 item somewhere other than your mailing address?
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