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Posted: 1/12/2013 5:33:19 PM EDT
Just saw this in another thread.


Wonder if anyone here knows anything about these and is willing to talk about it.

I REALLY hope the x400 is Class 1 and not vaporware.
Link Posted: 1/12/2013 5:54:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
Just saw this in another thread.
http://www.surefire.com/media/wysiwyg/newsletter/2013ShotShow/images/2013ShotShowl-v2_r5_c1.png

Wonder if anyone here knows anything about these and is willing to talk about it.

I REALLY hope the x400 is Class 1 and not vaporware.


Sweet, I'll definitely get a x400v. Any idea on pricing.
Link Posted: 1/12/2013 6:02:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By HKocher:
Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
Just saw this in another thread.
http://www.surefire.com/media/wysiwyg/newsletter/2013ShotShow/images/2013ShotShowl-v2_r5_c1.png

Wonder if anyone here knows anything about these and is willing to talk about it.

I REALLY hope the x400 is Class 1 and not vaporware.


Sweet, I'll definitely get a x400v. Any idea on pricing.


If it comes in Class 1. I hope they've applied some of the low level lessons that Vic and LDI have learned over the past couple years.

No idea on pricing. Probably stupid expensive.
Link Posted: 1/12/2013 8:59:18 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
Originally Posted By HKocher:
Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
Just saw this in another thread.
http://www.surefire.com/media/wysiwyg/newsletter/2013ShotShow/images/2013ShotShowl-v2_r5_c1.png

Wonder if anyone here knows anything about these and is willing to talk about it.

I REALLY hope the x400 is Class 1 and not vaporware.


Sweet, I'll definitely get a x400v. Any idea on pricing.


If it comes in Class 1. I hope they've applied some of the low level lessons that Vic and LDI have learned over the past couple years.

No idea on pricing. Probably stupid expensive.


I wouldn't be surprised if it's as much as a DBAL I2. Considering how much the X400 already is, swap the vis laser for an IR laser and a vampire head.....
Link Posted: 1/12/2013 9:25:42 PM EDT
What holster is going to hold those? That's my concern. Can't just swap the tlr1 and assume it works.

But I do want it. Was considering buying a dedicated pistol laser but this is tempting
Link Posted: 1/13/2013 4:12:26 AM EDT
Looks awesome, but fuck me, I'm still waiting on my X300 ultra holster
Link Posted: 1/16/2013 4:13:57 PM EDT
Anyone know if this is a class 1 laser or not yet?
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 2:57:33 PM EDT
I asked a rep today at the show and he had no idea about class 1. Guess we'll see.

The sticker msrp at the show was $399 for the 300v and $599 for the x400v-ir.
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 3:06:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By wcc005:
I asked a rep today at the show and he had no idea about class 1. Guess we'll see.

The sticker msrp at the show was $399 for the 300v and $599 for the x400v-ir.


Understandable, as half of gun reps are clueless.Although $600 MSRP for the x400v-IR is pretty good.
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 3:18:52 PM EDT
For that price (and if it is Class 1) I'll buy the x400v-ir to mount upside down all the way forward on the top rail of my AR. Hopefully the sight is taller. If it is too tall OR if not class1, then I saw that Insight had a similar IR light/laser at SHOT this year. The standard Insight Procyon that I have on my G19 has been flawless.
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 3:25:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By autumnsong:
For that price (and if it is Class 1) I'll buy the x400v-ir to mount upside down all the way forward on the top rail of my AR. Hopefully the sight is taller. If it is too tall OR if not class1, then I saw that Insight had a similar IR light/laser at SHOT this year. The standard Insight Procyon that I have on my G19 has been flawless.


It's not.
You could try mounting it on a Mossie Midnight Mount to get it low enough.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 5:53:57 AM EDT
Here's a picture of the x400v-IR from Lead-Slinger.com


Stat sheet reads 5mw IR laser

Somebody over on TOS said they saw both a C3 and a C1 version spec sheet, so here's to hoping. However, I can't see why anyone would offer something that high of a power level for a PISTOL laser at this point in laser development. Even the CIVL was made for a mil contract and it's .6mw
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 6:17:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
Here's a picture of the x400v-IR from Lead-Slinger.com
http://lead-slinger.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/DSC04095.jpg

Stat sheet reads 5mw IR laser

Somebody over on TOS said they saw both a C3 and a C1 version spec sheet, so here's to hoping. However, I can't see why anyone would offer something that high of a power level for a PISTOL laser at this point in laser development. Even the CIVL was made for a mil contract and it's .6mw


Yeah, doesn't make sense for a pistol laser. The x400 gn ultra looks like a winner, assuming it is priced similar to the current x400.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 5:26:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/22/2013 5:28:28 AM EDT by UTCenturion]
After buying a probably 600 dollar laser flashlight system, they probably assume you can afford to have a custom $60 pressed holster made.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 11:01:28 AM EDT
Originally Posted By UTCenturion:
After buying a probably 600 dollar laser flashlight system, they probably assume you can afford to have a custom $60 pressed holster made.


True but it sure sucks waiting months to get the holsters!
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