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Posted: 4/18/2010 8:50:46 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/18/2010 9:41:17 AM EDT
Did you buy it? That price seems slightly high considering the paint and recoil pad. I picked up a non-matching but otherwise unmolested M1893 Mauser recently for $195. The bolt does not match but the rest of the parts do. The bore is very good, strong rifling and mostly shiny with just a few tiny spots that haven't cleaned out and might be pitting.
http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/xx332/flatdarkmars/US%20and%20OPFOR%20rifles/spanishm1893mauser.jpg

Early production serial number with no letter prefix.
http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/xx332/flatdarkmars/US%20and%20OPFOR%20rifles/spanishm1893mauser-serial.jpg

Fabrica de Armas Oviedo crest with 1896 date. This was the first year of production at Oviedo; earlier M1893 rifles were made in Germany.
http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/xx332/flatdarkmars/US%20and%20OPFOR%20rifles/spanishm1893mauser-crest.jpg

Oviedo 1896 stock cartouche.
http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/xx332/flatdarkmars/US%20and%20OPFOR%20rifles/spanishm1893mauser-cartouche.jpg
Link Posted: 4/18/2010 9:44:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2010 9:47:49 AM EDT by medicmandan]
Link Posted: 4/18/2010 9:55:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2010 10:03:57 AM EDT by flatdarkmars]
7x57mm Mauser is the correct caliber for a M1893 Spanish Mauser. The 7mm marking however would not be original. The barrel, if in its original configuration, should be 29" long; many M1893 Mausers were cut down to make short rifles in later years. Side sling swivels would be a later-model feature. The M1943 I know for sure has side swivels, and is also chambered for 7.92x57mm, but the earlier Spanish Mausers do not.

M1893 is the model if it is a rifle; there is also a M1895 carbine but these are rare. A gun made in 1901 would have to be one of those two models, as the next Spanish Mauser variant, if I recall correctly, didn't come along until the M1916.

I would not pay more than $150 for it, considering the added marking and other alterations. $100 would be better. There are still unmodified M1893 Mausers available in the $150-$200 range. Case in point: SPANISH MAUSER 1893 7x57 FULL MILITARY.
Link Posted: 4/18/2010 10:03:20 AM EDT
Originally Posted By medicmandan:
Found one from 1901 in a pawn shop last week. Numbers didn't match, stock had been painted brown and the metal butt plate had been replaced with a recoil pad. Barrel had peeling black paint that reminded me of the Indian .308 Enfields that came in a couple of years ago. Had 7mm marked on the left side of the receiver but it looked like it had been added later (rebarrel?) Metal was in great shape.

Price was $199.


I'd say the price is about $100 too high, given the mismatched numbers and the "improvements." BTW, here's my rule: Regardless of what a military surplus rifle is worth in original condition, once its been cut, drilled, or anything else that's not reversible, it's worth a hundred bucks . . . unless it's something like a Mosin that you can buy in correct shape for $80. In that case, it's worth $40. Sounds like this rifle could be put back into original condition, but by the time you get a new stock and reverse the finish damage, you'd be in it way too deep. It sounds like a $100 rifle, TOPS!

7mm Mauser is a great caliber, though.
Link Posted: 4/18/2010 10:14:12 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/18/2010 10:18:50 AM EDT
My thought is that if you want a Spanish Mauser (and you should!), you should buy a different one.
Link Posted: 4/18/2010 1:02:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2010 1:05:49 PM EDT by Bladeswitcher]
Originally Posted By medicmandan:
Hmm, I didn't get the impression he'd be willing to drop the price by 50%. What are your thoughts on the peeling black paint on the barrel?


Hard to know without looking at it. The best case scenario is that would all peel off easily and the original finish would be intact underneath. Worst case is that you'd have to reblue the gun.

BTW, have a pristine Spanish Mauser in 7mm that I paid $125 for about a year ago. There are good deals out there. My advice would be to wait for one.
Link Posted: 4/18/2010 2:35:43 PM EDT
I almost always avoid buying milsurps that do not have matching numbers. A mismatched Spansih Mauser in 7mm wouldn't be worth a second look to me at $200. Zero collector value and not really a good basis for a sporter.....and I dislike sporterized milsurps.
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