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Posted: 9/7/2005 1:43:36 PM EDT
I've been using surplus Australian mostly but had a chance to try some South African I recently purchased. Out of 100 rounds I had two FTF but I attribute that to a brand new magazine. Other than that, this is good ammo, clean, shoots well and accurate out of my DS Arms SA58 carbine.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 4:19:50 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 4:28:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/7/2005 4:29:42 PM EDT by DaddyDett]
I ran about 60 rds through my brand new Socom today, using orig 10 rd mag and one 20 rd mag purchased locally.
No problems what so ever.
I am going to order more asap.
DaddyDett

ETA: Templar sold me this blammo, along with my Socom.
A great recommendation on ammo from a great guy to do business with.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 5:45:48 PM EDT
I recently picked up some SA battlepacks. 140rnds in each. Shot off one last week, zero problems.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 5:59:44 PM EDT
I've used a few K in my FALs, I do like it with the exception of the smell. I think a little elephant piss was used in the mix.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 6:17:23 PM EDT
Yup, good stuff.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 7:30:01 PM EDT
I bought up almost 4K of the stuff recently, almost because it comes 960 rds to a case. You can get another 140 round BP in it tho. My FAL and Garand love it. Never a prob but yes it smells a bit but still way better then wolf. To bad its berdan primed.
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 3:59:48 AM EDT
Good ammo - is almost as accurate as ADF in most of my rifles - better in some. Ammo is factory packed 1260 rounds per case - 9 battle packs (63 boxes ot 20) per case - the 960 rounds per case have been opened and 2 BP's removed so you have to take note when comparing case prices. I believe it meets a shipping weight issue that a full case exceeds.
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 8:50:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Templar:

They were using it on the Cuban army in Angola.




You have such a way with words. That so makes me want to get a few more cases.
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 6:10:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2005 6:10:15 PM EDT by varoadking]

Originally Posted By 24ksports:
Good ammo - is almost as accurate as ADF in most of my rifles - better in some. Ammo is factory packed 1260 rounds per case - 9 battle packs (63 boxes ot 20) per case - the 960 rounds per case have been opened and 2 BP's removed so you have to take note when comparing case prices. I believe it meets a shipping weight issue that a full case exceeds.



Minor point - 980 rounds in 7 battle packs...
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 7:00:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
I recently picked up some SA battlepacks. 140rnds in each. Shot off one last week, zero problems.



I have bought these for 22 bucks out the door.

Heck of a deal for .308

Great for blasting with my DPMS .308 and surpirsingly accurate out to 700 yds
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 11:41:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By John11167:

Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
I recently picked up some SA battlepacks. 140rnds in each. Shot off one last week, zero problems.



I have bought these for 22 bucks out the door.

Heck of a deal for .308

Great for blasting with my DPMS .308 and surpirsingly accurate out to 700 yds



I get it for 25 here but what the hey, It's great through my FAL. I think I will pick up anothe few BPs later today.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 2:18:55 AM EDT

7 battle packs delivered to your VA door for $166.00, or $23.72 per...

www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/copy_of__308.html

Of course, with gas prices, the $19.00 shipping ain't gonna last forever...
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 2:22:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Templar:
They were using it on the Cuban army in Angola.



Yes, that is quite correct - we were using it on the 45,000+ Cubans that were there under the command of General Arnaldo Ochoa Sanchez (whom Castro later had shot on some drug charge - but it was really because Sanchez failed to whip the SADF).

But I digress.

You chaps must buy all the South African milsurp ammo that you need, because (as some of you may know), the source has already dried up: Our NCACC (National Conventional Arms Control Committee) has prohibited all milsurp ammo exports from South Africa. (Nicely aligned with U.N. dogma.)
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 5:54:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By capeboer:

Originally Posted By Templar:
They were using it on the Cuban army in Angola.



Yes, that is quite correct - we were using it on the 45,000+ Cubans that were there under the command of General Arnaldo Ochoa Sanchez (whom Castro later had shot on some drug charge - but it was really because Sanchez failed to whip the SADF).

But I digress.

You chaps must buy all the South African milsurp ammo that you need, because (as some of you may know), the source has already dried up: Our NCACC (National Conventional Arms Control Committee) has prohibited all milsurp ammo exports from South Africa. (Nicely aligned with U.N. dogma.)



I get this funny feeling that true .308 surplus Mil ammo is drying up from many of the traditional places. Between the UN BS and older stuff drying up I think in a few years what there is will be priced higher then we expect. I notice that when decent stuff hits the market it is gone in a reasonably short amount of time, and it takes a while to get more. I hope I am wrong but this UN garbage might really put the hurt on milsurp ammo not from the old Commblock. They need the cash to much and I doubt they have any love lost for the UN. I am getting all the 308 and 30/06 I can NOW. Screw later.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 2:23:43 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 8:53:18 AM EDT
Something tells me the time to stock up is now. Not to sound paniced, but replacement ammo doesn't seem to be making its way to the websites especially 30-06. 308 and 30-06 will be my prioriy for the next few months. I may even put off an AR build I have going just to ensure money isn't an issue.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 9:52:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/20/2005 9:52:48 PM EDT by Maddogkiller]
Damn right. I have 17,000 + rounds of 308 milsurp ammo on hand and I still feel like I am running low. I think that the land lord is going to have to do without for a few until I get things squared away. I figure it will take at least 90 days before they can start eviction proceedings
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 11:23:03 AM EDT
Hello ikor

Yes, things are not as they were; but, we bear up and do the best we can.

Thanks for your support.
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 2:47:14 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 3:01:54 PM EDT
Where, if you don't mind me asking, are you finding the SA battlepacks for $22 each? If it's in the D/FW area, that would be great. E
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 3:07:40 PM EDT

Is it true all that Argentine ammo on the market now was made for South Africa and is better than usual quality?
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 5:33:46 PM EDT
Shot 100rds today out of my 16" dsa barreled para build.
Printed a 1" group at 100 yards.

no problems at all to date
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 9:24:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Robert2011:
Is it true all that Argentine ammo on the market now was made for South Africa and is better than usual quality?




The rumor that I read regarding the Argentine ammo is that it was made for Australia. As to the quality of the Argentine ammo, I have about 6000 rds of it. It so far it has performed on par with the South African R1M1 that AIMSURPLUS is currently selling. I have fired about 500 rds or so of it.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 6:31:52 PM EDT
Can somebody put a magnet to the SA or Argentine ammo and tell me if it sticks? My range has a "no steel core" rule and most the surplus .308 I've tried has a steel core. (Hirtenberger, Radway Green)
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 6:36:30 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 12:37:16 PM EDT

I got a couple more failures to fire with SA this weekend. That's four or five now in a couple of thousand rounds of various lots. The primers had nice craters and it happened once each with two different FALs.

Are there known problems with old SA? Could some of it have been stored improperly?
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 1:03:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 5:14:30 PM EDT

Latest lot is 170 B11/81
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