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Posted: 2/22/2007 7:17:09 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/22/2007 7:18:46 AM EST by USPcompact]
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 7:18:29 AM EST
Sorry buddy.
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 7:20:14 AM EST
If you are using birdshot for self defense you might as well grab the automatic bb gun.
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 11:22:30 AM EST
We were at the range playing with a few new shotguns yesterday. I had some of the cheap wal-mart 100 round value pack birdshot left and burned it up. At 20 yards it did not pass through the plastic clips (they are about 1/16" or so) that hold the cardboard backer to the wood frame.

On a completely unrelated note I got to try out my new Mossberg 500 "breacher" with a standard pistol grip. First pistol grip SG I have owned. I really do not see what the fuss is all about. It is kind of fun to shot with a one hand, or 2 handed like a pistol, and we were shooting regular 2 3/4" 00 buck and slugs, nothing tactical or reduced recoil (except the cheap birdshot). I was going to spend the money on a knoxx, but I have changed my mind now.
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 3:57:27 AM EST
USPCompact: Are you by chance TarHeelWtfFwlr in the mentioned thread? I ask because I'm right down the road from you if it is you (Southern Pines).

Anyways, I fully agree with the retard mentality when it comes to shotgun home defense. I've actually have shot squirrels with #2 steel shot, and they did not die instantly. I don't know why these people would want to use anything but the best to defend their life

It also cracks me up when I hear "Buckshot over penetrates too much, thats why I use a 9mm/40/45 pistol".
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 7:59:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By 556A2:
USPCompact: Are you by chance TarHeelWtfFwlr in the mentioned thread? I ask because I'm right down the road from you if it is you (Southern Pines).


That would be me.

There's been a few more gems posted in that thread today.
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 8:07:10 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/23/2007 8:07:29 AM EST by Avenging_Parrot]
I wouldn't use 8 shot on a deer, I don't think I'd try it against a 250 pound armed man.
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 8:23:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By Avenging_Parrot:
I wouldn't use 8 shot on a deer, I don't think I'd try it against a 250 pound armed man.


Sig line material right here
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 10:38:05 AM EST

Originally Posted By USPcompact:
refugeforums.com/refuge/showthread.php?t=514753

Unbelievable.

Or, maybe not.


It appears that you somehow stumbled into a retard convention over there!
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 11:04:27 AM EST
4 pages and I did not see an answer to your question, or did one guy say cheaper than dirt? Ammoman.com is another possible source.

I knew a guy who survied a blast of bird shot right to his mid section at close range. He recovered and lived to be an old timer.

I saw a guy get his head clean blown off at close range, that load was buckshot.

Not that I need to prove anything to people in here, but this does come up once in a while.
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 11:09:20 AM EST
I didn't post the original thread, but was merely responding to the original question.
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 1:58:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/23/2007 1:59:46 PM EST by mike103]
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 4:41:00 PM EST
For clarification, I'm "TarHeelWtrFwlr" on that thread.
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 6:46:48 PM EST
I really like the way Hornady TAP 00 Buck patterns out of my Mossberg 590A1. I've read all the articles and looked at the "box of truth" site and decided to just get out there and unload a few tubes to see how it works for me. Patterns at 5, 10, and 20 yards (max I would ever need to shoot in my house) were good for me.

I don't see how bird shot will do anything but make you have to take a second shot.
Link Posted: 2/24/2007 4:38:38 AM EST
The reactions you got were pretty typical for shot-tards.
Check out the tactical forum at Shotgunworld.
That is, if you haven't already. There are some shot-tards, but they are minimal. Most of those guys are at least open to tactical shotguns, although there are the occassional birdshot threads, and some LTL adherants.
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