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It hurts my soul to see it wearing an A2 flash hider and not a proper AUG tulip fh
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From those pics it looks like it may accept the Corvus Defensio shell deflector. Anyone else see that? Maybe I just have sunscreen in my eye!
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That was the last scuttlebutt I heard as well. They were planning to serialize the bolt carriers, but ATF was having trouble deciding which part would be the firearm. Probably some prevention for full auto conversions being discussed also. Normally there has to be a physical difference between a MG receiver and a Title I receiver.
ATF wasn't real specific on this matter with the FN FS2000. The receiver on the Tactical model is a different part than on the Standard optics model. I think you can combine parts from the two and make an unserialized firearm, but I've never played with a Standard to compare. They probably want to avoid something like that this time. |
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Thinking about pre-ordering from Brownells.
Is black going to be the only color available? Any other vendors have pre-orders? This would be my first bullpup rifle. |
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Thinking about pre-ordering from Brownells. Is black going to be the only color available? Any other vendors have pre-orders? This would be my first bullpup rifle. View Quote |
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Does anyone know if the version that takes AR-15 mags will be imported to the US?
I am not interested in the version that uses AUG mags. Will go with something else rather than add another mag type to the inventory. |
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Quoted: They were planning to serialize the bolt carriers, but ATF was having trouble deciding which part would be the firearm. Probably some prevention for full auto conversions being discussed also. Normally there has to be a physical difference between a MG receiver and a Title I receiver.
ATF wasn't real specific on this matter with the FN FS2000. The receiver on the Tactical model is a different part than on the Standard optics model. I think you can combine parts from the two and make an unserialized firearm, but I've never played with a Standard to compare. They probably want to avoid something like that this time. View Quote |
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My gun stash/cache money envelope is getting anxious. I specifically set aside money for the Atrax/F90, and now I'm itching to spend.
Sure hope it gets through the red tape soon. |
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Does anyone know if the version that takes AR-15 mags will be imported to the US? I am not interested in the version that uses AUG mags. Will go with something else rather than add another mag type to the inventory. View Quote |
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Does anyone know if the version that takes AR-15 mags will be imported to the US? I am not interested in the version that uses AUG mags. Will go with something else rather than add another mag type to the inventory. View Quote Hopefully we get to see the F90 in the wild soon! |
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I believe that's in the works if I remember reading that correctly from a TFB post. I'm not sure if it will have BHO device or if it will come neutered like the Steyr NATO model. Yes the AUG mag design is superior, but it's simply seen as niche by many in the US who have stacks of STANAG mags. I think it's one of the reasons why IWI has managed to corner much of the bullpup market.. Hopefully we get to see the F90 in the wild soon! View Quote |
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I believe that's in the works if I remember reading that correctly from a TFB post. I'm not sure if it will have BHO device or if it will come neutered like the Steyr NATO model. Yes the AUG mag design is superior, but it's simply seen as niche by many in the US who have stacks of STANAG mags. I think it's one of the reasons why IWI has managed to corner much of the bullpup market.. Hopefully we get to see the F90 in the wild soon! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Does anyone know if the version that takes AR-15 mags will be imported to the US? I am not interested in the version that uses AUG mags. Will go with something else rather than add another mag type to the inventory. Hopefully we get to see the F90 in the wild soon! I have also never seen a head to head test of AUG mags vs. any other mag, so the claims of superiority are very creative wishful thinking from the go. I HAVE seen AUGs double feed and spit out rounds from their mags, which I have never seen an AR mag do (Orlites aside) so color me unimpressed. Anyway, regardless, from a logistics standpoint, I am not adding AUG mags to the inventory even if they are the best mags on the planet, its just not worth it to me. Its not about the money, its about the added complications to the magazine inventory which I definitely don't need. My guns are tools, not toys. |
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I HAVE seen AUGs double feed and spit out rounds from their mags, which I have never seen an AR mag do (Orlites aside) so color me unimpressed. View Quote The AUG mags being "better" than AR-style ones was probably very true prior to the rise of high-quality inexpensive polymer mags for the latter such as Magpul, Lancer, etc. |
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Without trying to sound snide, you may just need to handle more AR mags. I've had a decent-looking USGI mag spit all ten loaded rounds out of itself and through the ejection port of an M16 with a locked-back bolt - and of course it happened seconds before the next stage of the Army marksmanship test began... View Quote |
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People who think the AUG mags are "superior" are laughable. They are bulkier and heavier than AR-15 mags and I have literally never had a mag related problem with an in spec AR mag in my 20 years of using them. I have also never seen a head to head test of AUG mags vs. any other mag, so the claims of superiority are very creative wishful thinking from the go. I HAVE seen AUGs double feed and spit out rounds from their mags, which I have never seen an AR mag do (Orlites aside) so color me unimpressed. Anyway, regardless, from a logistics standpoint, I am not adding AUG mags to the inventory even if they are the best mags on the planet, its just not worth it to me. Its not about the money, its about the added complications to the magazine inventory which I definitely don't need. My guns are tools, not toys. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Does anyone know if the version that takes AR-15 mags will be imported to the US? I am not interested in the version that uses AUG mags. Will go with something else rather than add another mag type to the inventory. Hopefully we get to see the F90 in the wild soon! I have also never seen a head to head test of AUG mags vs. any other mag, so the claims of superiority are very creative wishful thinking from the go. I HAVE seen AUGs double feed and spit out rounds from their mags, which I have never seen an AR mag do (Orlites aside) so color me unimpressed. Anyway, regardless, from a logistics standpoint, I am not adding AUG mags to the inventory even if they are the best mags on the planet, its just not worth it to me. Its not about the money, its about the added complications to the magazine inventory which I definitely don't need. My guns are tools, not toys. |
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People who think the AUG mags are "superior" are laughable. They are bulkier and heavier than AR-15 mags and I have literally never had a mag related problem with an in spec AR mag in my 20 years of using them. I have also never seen a head to head test of AUG mags vs. any other mag, so the claims of superiority are very creative wishful thinking from the go. I HAVE seen AUGs double feed and spit out rounds from their mags, which I have never seen an AR mag do (Orlites aside) so color me unimpressed. Anyway, regardless, from a logistics standpoint, I am not adding AUG mags to the inventory even if they are the best mags on the planet, its just not worth it to me. Its not about the money, its about the added complications to the magazine inventory which I definitely don't need. My guns are tools, not toys. View Quote |
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Laughable? That's a bit short sighted POV. The AUG mag has not gone through as many evolutions (if any) as the STANAG AR mag has to reliably work since its inception. Like you, I simply don't want to add another mag type in inventory. As for the other poster, yes IWI's marketing is superior to anything Steyr USA puts out, but mag compatibility does play a factor in some sales as evidence by some of the discussion here. View Quote |
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I've seen some guys like that complain about that same issue of not taking AR mags, even when they have 5 pistols in the same caliber that all use different mags.
I don't blame 'em if they are up to their necks in AR mags, but AUG mags are pretty fantastic and still hold up well and even outdo the majority of AR mags on the market. |
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I've seen some guys like that complain about that same issue of not taking AR mags, even when they have 5 pistols in the same caliber that all use different mags. View Quote I have 5 rifles in the same caliber that all use different mags. It doesn't bother me (except that G36 PMAGs look a lot like standard PMAGs, so I had to segregate them more carefully). I'm glad the F90 uses AUG mags. I'm up to my neck in AUG mags (since the 2013 RSR liquidation) and I can easily remember to stick AUG mags in things that look like AUGs. |
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Quoted: I've seen some guys like that complain about that same issue of not taking AR mags, even when they have 5 pistols in the same caliber that all use different mags.
I don't blame 'em if they are up to their necks in AR mags, but AUG mags are pretty fantastic and still hold up well and even outdo the majority of AR mags on the market View Quote I'm not going to spend $1K or more on a bullpup anyway, when I could build 3 ARs for that price, but if I had to have a .223 bullpup, I'd be looking for one that took standard mags. |
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I will also be waiting for the AR “export” version.
I have already dealt with AUG mags. I did not feel they are superior enough to double up on mags just because. Had sig55x mags, circle 10 & beryl 556 mags too at the same time. Having 4+ different kinds of mags for the same caliber just doesnt make sense in my eyes anymore especially when there is a possibility of all sharing a common mag. It gets tiresome bringing a few really fles to the range with two mags for each - next thing you know you have a bag just of mags that you also have to carry around. Also having a go to/bug out bags, vest & carriers just means the unique mag rifles will be left wherever. And I am very looking forward to this rifle. |
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OEM AUG mags are the best mags.
Where the hell is the ATRAX already!!! |
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One "feature" that hasn't gotten much attention is that it has a slimmed down mag release. The release has to be pushed further into the stock than before. That means no more using a fresh magazine to depress the release for a faster reload
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I suspect that the aftermarket could easily find a solution for that if it became an issue.
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That MBR version looks incredible. I’ll probably upgrade from my A3 if/when it comes here.
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Still waiting on the ATF??? I've been wanting one of these
I'd preorder but I'd rather get a tan or FDE |
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I don't even care anymore, I am sick of companies saying something will be available at some point in the future and get delayed over and over again. Until I see it in the flesh I am over it.
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I don't even care anymore, I am sick of companies saying something will be available at some point in the future and get delayed over and over again. Until I see it in the flesh I am over it. View Quote |
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I don't even care anymore, I am sick of companies saying something will be available at some point in the future and get delayed over and over again. Until I see it in the flesh I am over it. View Quote |
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I’ve owned a DR200 and several different SK mags can’t say any have really inspired a lot of confidence. No word on who is making the barrel.... like I said I don’t have much interest in it at this point. View Quote My sample size of one shot lights out and was ridiculously accurate. Had parts for it been more available at the time, I'd have kept the gun. |
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I don't even care anymore, I am sick of companies saying something will be available at some point in the future and get delayed over and over again. Until I see it in the flesh I am over it. |
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Don't hold your breath. Brownells is calling preorders to inform that it's possibly a year+ out.
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I can't believe they can't find an ATF approved location on the gun to engrave the freaking serial #.
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Who knows the real situation but a post on the BP forum about a call to brownells said the following and again it could be complete BS, but if true then we might not see it for awhile and I wonder why the company would “change hands”
“Just received a call from Brownells and my pre-order. The "company" apparently changed hands and the new ownership has no ETA. Could be as long as a Year. “ |
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