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Posted: 4/2/2010 5:15:16 PM EDT
What do you do when, most if not all the new firearms coming out, just dont do it for you?

Take example, in my opinion, for me (is that enough disclaimers?);

*SCAR- I like the idea, but my preference is not 5.56. The SCAR-H's (which somewhat interest me) have been a "couple months" away for some time. And $$$$$

*ACR- I'm not going there; except I'll say too much plastic for me, and it's 5.56. And way too $$$$$ for what you get.

*AUGs/clones- Shot them. Just not impressed. It's 5.56. Price is decent though.

*FS2000 - Never shot one, but handled several. Too much plastic for me. And...... it's 5.56.

*PS90- No. Just no. At least the civi version anyway.

*Kel-Tec RFB- It's 7.62N !! But, I'm very 'iffy' about bullpups in general, and too much plastic for me.

*Piston AR's- Meh. I think a whole re-designed weapon would be better than making something it wasnt supposed to be.


As far as the more common, and 'been around awhile' guns:

*AR's- I like them. I know them far too well. I can get them in any flavor, any caliber (almost). I've just gotten so 'meh' about them, even decked-out rifles. I even have a semi MK18/Mod 1 SBR that I've come to be 'meh' about.... Now, the Knights 308 carbines....mmmmmmm. Love what I see. But the I still get severe, very severe, sticker shock when I contemplate one....

*AK's- I like them. I've owned/shot just as many as I have AR's. But I cant build them (no proper equipment or know-how). And while I've never had the first issue in reliability; the accuracy, while good, has to be just not 'good enough' for me. I own several models, and for some reason, I've even become 'meh' over them as well.

*FAL's- I like them. Owned 3 at a while ago. Thought they were cool, but somehat heavy. I didnt like the accuracy, but appreciated the reliablity. Like the DSA's, but again, not comfortable with $$$$ for mediocre accuracy. And the fact that sourcing mags has become more of challenge.

*HK/clones- I never owned an actual HK, but owned a PTR at one time. Liked it. Accurate, reliable. But too heavy with that lard barrel it has. Not comfortable spending $2k-2500 for a 30-20 yr old weapon, especially since smiths' are getting rarer, and have months of wait time for work. And I wont trust my life (in the event) to some cobbled together clone from lower tier builders.

*M14/clones- Owned a Springer M1A a few years ago. Liked it, but at the time, (during the ban), mags were way out of my price range, so I traded it for an FAL. The newer Springers, well, I have inspected a few new ones, and I really dont like the look of the rec'rs and parts. Not paying the money for a SEI either. Not that it's not worth it, it's just if I'm gonna pay that, well, might as well save a lil more for the Knight's that I reeeeealy want.

*NFA stuff- No desire for FA, and I dont feel the need to go through the hassle of BATF, the wait, and the money, for a supressor that I should be able to go buy at Academy just like a set of ear plugs. SBR's are cool, but I still much prefer rifles and carbines.

*Precision rigs- Well, I like bolt guns. But the one's that fit my needs, are very $$$$, and again, I think, I might as well get a Knight's or a damn .50 bmg.


So what gives guys?? Do I just need to step back, further evaluate (which I have done ad nauseum), and go from there? Have I just reached a plateau with firearms, where only the most $$$$$ will do?

Is there something I am missing here? Money would not be too much of an issue, if I could decide on a certain 'path' of firearms I suppose, and go from there. I love firearms in general, but I would say that most of my interest lies somewhere between precision shooting and handguns, with a slight mix for up close and personal, aka the tacticool word " CQB".

Looking for answers here.......


Link Posted: 4/2/2010 5:29:08 PM EDT
HK 417

Comes as an upper which goes with ar 15 lowers and is 7.62
Link Posted: 4/2/2010 5:37:37 PM EDT
When one gets to feeling that it's time to diversify your interests. Buy a motorcycle. Go fishing. Climb a mountain. Learn to fly.
Don't get rid of your guns because you'll come back to them. Just take a break and leave the world of firearms for a bit. Love something else for a while.
Link Posted: 4/2/2010 5:40:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By deathdealer1995:
HK 417

Comes as an upper which goes with ar 15 lowers and is 7.62




Ummm......... fits on an AR15 lower......?? I dont think so...
Link Posted: 4/2/2010 5:52:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By deathdealer1995:
HK 417

Comes as an upper which goes with ar 15 lowers and is 7.62


Link Posted: 4/2/2010 6:02:44 PM EDT
You like bolt action? Build a precision rifle with the Remington 700 as the base.
Link Posted: 4/2/2010 6:14:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/2/2010 6:28:39 PM EDT by neilage66]
A real nice side by side scattergun would do your heart good...L.C Smith, A.H. Fox, Parker, LeFever, Purdy, Holland & Holland, Beretta, Weatherby...

How about something old and fairly unusual...?

Link Posted: 4/2/2010 6:17:47 PM EDT
Not every gun is for everyone.

Sounds like to me you need to take up golf or working on classic muscle cars.

Max
Link Posted: 4/2/2010 6:47:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By maxell27:
Not every gun is for everyone.

Sounds like to me you need to take up golf or working on classic muscle cars.

Max


Funny you mention working on cars...... I have ben trying to get my Cummins diesel back running for almost 3 months now. I have learned far more than I ever wanted to know about diesels, including the fact that it really sucks to have to work on one............
Link Posted: 4/2/2010 6:53:55 PM EDT
Collect oddball stuff... MAS49/56, Hakim, Rasheed, Ljungman, VZ-52, SVT, G43, Johnson, etc.
Link Posted: 4/2/2010 6:56:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By neilage66:
A real nice side by side scattergun would do your heart good...L.C Smith, A.H. Fox, Parker, LeFever, Purdy, Holland & Holland, Beretta, Weatherby...

How about something old and fairly unusual...?
http://www.i-e-a.de/hpbimg.i-e-a.de/ZF%20SIG%20PE%2057%20auf%20Waffe%20640.JPG
http://www.exordinanza.net/foto/stg57azione.jpg



That appears to be a SIG AMT.........?

Either way; yes, classic firearms stoke my fire, but I dont have the dispensable income for such toys that I would not be willing to stake my or my family's life on....
Link Posted: 4/2/2010 7:17:50 PM EDT
Put the rifles away for a while and go play w/ a shotgun. At the local club, we have a game called MazClays. It is the most fun, I have every had w/ a shotgun.

Accountant

Link Posted: 4/2/2010 7:31:05 PM EDT
How about a revolver or a .22(?)... ...or a .22 revolver?



Link Posted: 4/2/2010 7:40:01 PM EDT
I don't see you mentioning XCR. It's a modern piston driven AR/AK type rifle, with plenty of metal.

You may also have to face the music that modern guns will have more and more polymer so you'll have to stay old school if you want all metal components.
Link Posted: 4/2/2010 7:43:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/2/2010 7:47:11 PM EDT by Davesrb]
Start chasing younger women!

Actually, have you ever shot some older rifles? Try playing with old Remington rolling blocks, or maybe a Marlin lever action. If you have never been exposed to the older rifles, you might be pleasantly surprised.

Of course, chasing younger women can get you pleasantly surprised as well....

Davesrb
Link Posted: 4/2/2010 7:57:33 PM EDT
I agree with you. I have an AR15, accurate, does the job, fun and was inexpesive to shoot. Why pay a bunch of money for something you don't need. I like long range precision rifles, have one in 308, don't see a need for a 300 win mag, 338 ect, I couldn't afford to shoot the thing. I have an AK, it is alright, not as accurate as I like, but atleast still cheap enough to shoot alot. 45 auto, I love 45 autos, one good one is all I need (have a wilson). Reload (when I can find primers, so still cheap enough to shoot). XD this and sig that, whatever. I'll just stick to the ones I like now. I never shoot my 44 mag, my 45/70 stainless guide gun, my 300 win mag, or even my 22's for that matter. I have thought about thinning out my heard, but have an aversion to selling them off. For fun I shoot my AR15, AK47, 308, and 45 auto. I shoot all spring, summer, and fall, can still afford to shoot these. Don't really need anything else.
Link Posted: 4/2/2010 8:25:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ARmory04:
Originally Posted By neilage66:
A real nice side by side scattergun would do your heart good...L.C Smith, A.H. Fox, Parker, LeFever, Purdy, Holland & Holland, Beretta, Weatherby...

How about something old and fairly unusual...?
http://www.i-e-a.de/hpbimg.i-e-a.de/ZF%20SIG%20PE%2057%20auf%20Waffe%20640.JPG
http://www.exordinanza.net/foto/stg57azione.jpg



That appears to be a SIG AMT.........?

Either way; yes, classic firearms stoke my fire, but I dont have the dispensable income for such toys that I would not be willing to stake my or my family's life on ....


Not every gun you own has to be a defense/SHTF gun, you know...

Link Posted: 4/2/2010 8:48:07 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ARmory04:
What do you do when, most if not all the new firearms coming out, just dont do it for you?

Take example, in my opinion, for me (is that enough disclaimers?);

*SCAR- I like the idea, but my preference is not 5.56. The SCAR-H's (which somewhat interest me) have been a "couple months" away for some time. And $$$$$ Handled one no fuzzy feeling!!

*ACR- I'm not going there; except I'll say too much plastic for me, and it's 5.56. And way too $$$$$ for what you get. SEE BELOW!!!

*AUGs/clones- Shot them. Just not impressed. It's 5.56. Price is decent though. Does not use AR mags.

*FS2000 - Never shot one, but handled several. Too much plastic for me. And...... it's 5.56. Goofy Looking and feeling to me!!

*PS90- No. Just no. At least the civi version anyway. Been there done that A real P90 oh hell yes other than that FU#@ That!!!

*Kel-Tec RFB- It's 7.62N !! But, I'm very 'iffy' about bullpups in general, and too much plastic for me. Kel Tec Iffy to say the least handled one no fuzzy!!

*Piston AR's- Meh. I think a whole re-designed weapon would be better than making something it wasnt supposed to be. An AR should be DI ONLY if its not its not an AR. Buy a regular AR15 Shoot It, Clean it, lube it, repeat problem solved.


As far as the more common, and 'been around awhile' guns:

*AR's- I like them. I know them far too well. I can get them in any flavor, any caliber (almost). I've just gotten so 'meh' about them, even decked-out rifles. I even have a semi MK18/Mod 1 SBR that I've come to be 'meh' about.... Now, the Knights 308 carbines....mmmmmmm. Love what I see. But the I still get severe, very severe, sticker shock when I contemplate one.... Same here Waiting for something new.

*AK's- I like them. I've owned/shot just as many as I have AR's. But I cant build them (no proper equipment or know-how). And while I've never had the first issue in reliability; the accuracy, while good, has to be just not 'good enough' for me. I own several models, and for some reason, I've even become 'meh' over them as well. I'm not paying what some of these idiots want for an AK!!!

*FAL's- I like them. Owned 3 at a while ago. Thought they were cool, but somehat heavy. I didnt like the accuracy, but appreciated the reliablity. Like the DSA's, but again, not comfortable with $$$$ for mediocre accuracy. And the fact that sourcing mags has become more of challenge. Never owned shot a lot got my fill and rocks off with them and moved on Heavy as hell.

*HK/clones- I never owned an actual HK, but owned a PTR at one time. Liked it. Accurate, reliable. But too heavy with that lard barrel it has. Not comfortable spending $2k-2500 for a 30-20 yr old weapon, especially since smiths' are getting rarer, and have months of wait time for work. And I wont trust my life (in the event) to some cobbled together clone from lower tier builders. HK clone everyone I have ever seen was a jam-o-matic.

*M14/clones- Owned a Springer M1A a few years ago. Liked it, but at the time, (during the ban), mags were way out of my price range, so I traded it for an FAL. The newer Springers, well, I have inspected a few new ones, and I really dont like the look of the rec'rs and parts. Not paying the money for a SEI either. Not that it's not worth it, it's just if I'm gonna pay that, well, might as well save a lil more for the Knight's that I reeeeealy want. Its time has come. Good but pricey for what they are.

*NFA stuff- No desire for FA, and I dont feel the need to go through the hassle of BATF, the wait, and the money, for a supressor that I should be able to go buy at Academy just like a set of ear plugs. SBR's are cool, but I still much prefer rifles and carbines. I'm not rich and will act my salary not my credit score.

*Precision rigs- Well, I like bolt guns. But the one's that fit my needs, are very $$$$, and again, I think, I might as well get a Knight's or a damn .50 bmg. Yep they are nice very expensive and again I'm not rich so thats out unless I try to build a precision AR.


So what gives guys?? Do I just need to step back, further evaluate (which I have done ad nauseum), and go from there? Have I just reached a plateau with firearms, where only the most $$$$$ will do? Astro glide, lesbian porn, you can figure out the rest. Do that for a while when it gets boring then go back to the guns.

Is there something I am missing here? Money would not be too much of an issue, if I could decide on a certain 'path' of firearms I suppose, and go from there. I love firearms in general, but I would say that most of my interest lies somewhere between precision shooting and handguns, with a slight mix for up close and personal, aka the tacticool word " CQB".

Looking for answers here.......


Ah Grasshopper You will not find answers here. Only "Get Both" on AR15.com.





Basically I feel your pain. I'm bored too. ACR prices gave me the WTF OMG YOUR NUCKING FUTS Attitude. But I am going to hold uut to see if the ACR gives me the warm fuzzy. If it does well then I will have to jump the shark. If not then "Astro glide, lesbian porn, I will figure out the rest." I'll do that for a while when it gets boring then i'll go back to shooting the Glocks.
Link Posted: 4/2/2010 9:40:48 PM EDT
Buy a 50!
Link Posted: 4/2/2010 10:30:54 PM EDT
Get a manly gun

Link Posted: 4/2/2010 10:39:26 PM EDT
When this happens to me I flip back and forth from the cowboy guns to the semi.
Link Posted: 4/3/2010 12:12:45 AM EDT
Start taking training classes.

They're addictive.
Link Posted: 4/3/2010 1:12:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By hkshooter:
When one gets to feeling that it's time to diversify your interests. Buy a motorcycle. Go fishing. Climb a mountain. Learn to fly.
Don't get rid of your guns because you'll come back to them. Just take a break and leave the world of firearms for a bit. Love something else for a while.


I think this may be a good answer.

I also like the idea above to get into training classes.

What about handguns?
Link Posted: 4/3/2010 6:05:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/3/2010 6:06:11 AM EDT by drfcolt]
Went through the same thing ............. so I ...............

Restored a P1853 3-band Enfield-type gun from IMA-USA ............


Built a semi-auto 1918A2 BAR built from Ohio Ordnance Works (OOW) receiver kit and Royal Typewriter (ROT) Korean-era BAR parts kit - actually used some NESA (New England Small Arms) parts, too ............

Still needs headspaced.







Added a couple of DGR's to the collection .............



Link Posted: 4/3/2010 6:09:17 AM EDT
I go fishing.
Link Posted: 4/3/2010 6:13:55 AM EDT
iPad?!
Link Posted: 4/3/2010 6:14:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Davesrb:
Start chasing younger women!

Actually, have you ever shot some older rifles? Try playing with old Remington rolling blocks, or maybe a Marlin lever action. If you have never been exposed to the older rifles, you might be pleasantly surprised.

Of course, chasing younger women can get you pleasantly surprised as well....

Davesrb




Married..................


But yes, yes it can.....
Link Posted: 4/3/2010 6:27:33 AM EDT
Originally Posted By M4-Daddy:
Buy a 50!


Been reeeeeeally considering it....
Link Posted: 4/3/2010 6:28:09 AM EDT
Originally Posted By xmikex:
Start taking training classes.

They're addictive.



I do that for a living.......
Link Posted: 4/3/2010 6:28:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/3/2010 6:33:35 AM EDT by Pathfinder1cav]
Armory,
Dave SRB has the right idea (about guns..), I would suggest this:
Go rent the video "Quigley Down Under" & watch it ...
Look up an old crop duster down there near you by the name of Rick Mulhern (also an old high power competitor). & ask him if he would introduce you to the fine art of 1000 yd. shooting with a Sharps rifle.. nothing beats putting a 550 gr. bullet that you cast yourself into an 8" X ring at that distance using iron sights!

- Oh yeah, once you have done that, get yourself to a ranch in Forsyth, MT on Fathers Day & pit yourself against 600 or so like minded Sharps Shooters!
Link Posted: 4/3/2010 6:29:52 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Hero:
Originally Posted By hkshooter:
When one gets to feeling that it's time to diversify your interests. Buy a motorcycle. Go fishing. Climb a mountain. Learn to fly.
Don't get rid of your guns because you'll come back to them. Just take a break and leave the world of firearms for a bit. Love something else for a while.


I think this may be a good answer.

I also like the idea above to get into training classes.

What about handguns?




I have a couple. A 1911, Sig 228, and looking to get a 220 or another 1911 soon. But I've mainly been kinda distraught over rifles....
Link Posted: 4/3/2010 10:28:55 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ZekeMenuar:
Get a manly gun

http://i49.tinypic.com/2vd4a9z.jpg




My month has just been ruined...

Damn, that's nice.
Link Posted: 4/3/2010 11:54:20 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ARmory04:
I have a couple. A 1911, Sig 228, and looking to get a 220 or another 1911 soon. But I've mainly been kinda distraught over rifles....


Maybe you should switch over to hanguns for a while. Maybe look to add a 92fs and a Hi Power to the collection? A good revolver? If you don't hate them, I don't think a handgun collection is complete without a Glock, but I'm a fanboy.
Link Posted: 4/3/2010 12:51:49 PM EDT
I feel much as you do, and my collection leans towards the modern. I don't mind plastic on guns, and feel the gun manufacturers have done a good job of getting out cool stuff for us to enjoy with the rules they have to deal with.

What really helps me is keeping a gun log. I can look at it and see what i fired and when, then decide whether to keep a certain firearm. Unless it is collectible, then I make an exception.

I hate handloading, so I don't expand there.

Collect ammo, even if just to shoot.

Your interests may take you to get a C&R and enjoy the classic firearms and pistols; the unusual, and even some full auto. Plus you get great discounts. I recently bought a Webley cheap from Century (which iIalways wanted but could never shell out for) fired, it, and didn't like it all that much...so was glad I got it on the cheap with my C&R.

Restoring older beat up stuff is also very fun...so restoring newer beat up stuff should be great, too.

Do you already build your own AR's or Ar10 pattern rifles? I'm almost there and it seems like another way to advance the interest. cheap, accurate, metal 308's.

Training courses––CQB or long range––is a great idea. If you don't have land to shoot on (private), that is very fun (steel, reactive targets, tannerite, propane cylinders, etc), and really what keeps me enjoying shooting. Of course, we have been raided on occasion as a terrorist training camp and now tell the local PD that we are shooting our class 3's etc all day on private property. So be sure to look into local land use issues before buying or renting. My local gun club had long range shooting (out to 1000) yards, black powder and conventional, but most of the guys are older, snobbish fudds who are immersed in NRA disciplines and have no other place to shoot, so keep moving the club down a more retrictive route with public friendly black powder and NRA events.

Work at an ammo manufacturer that gives steep discounts on ammo so you can buy whatever you want!

I have found that, finacially, I must limit my hobbies. So my hobbies are guns and family. I gave up golf, partly due to expense, partly because I just was not getting good at it like I was with guns. I did love the beautiful courses I played on. That would be perfect: gun games in beautiful settings, like golf. I think there are competitions like that out there.
Link Posted: 4/5/2010 7:46:16 AM EDT
Silencers or other Title II goodies? They put a stop to regular ol BRD right quick!
Link Posted: 4/5/2010 1:58:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By cosmos556:
Silencers or other Title II goodies? They put a stop to regular ol BRD right quick!


Got that right.... I have three stamps pending BATFE approval as I type this.

I went with the AUG route.... MSAR XM17-E4... It's a AUG that eats AR magazines. Win for me.

I'm into everything....

Hi-tech Modern rifles, black powder six shooters and smoke poles, hunting rigs, pistols, cowboy stuff, C&R Mil-Surp, NFA, wheel guns, etc....

If I simply stuck to one thing I'd get bored. But I jump around and keep myself entertained.
Link Posted: 4/5/2010 4:02:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/5/2010 4:04:18 PM EDT by SilentType]
Get a bullpup.

I'm reading your post OP and I can tell you wouldn't mind a Kel Tec RFB in 7.62. It's got metal where it needs it. It's pretty robust polymer. Take another look at them. Sturdy damn rifle that nice and compact in 7.62 great for hunting or a good backpacking rifle.

Don't invite "the man" into your life for an SBR when you can get nice bullpups without the negatives of an SBR.

Link Posted: 4/5/2010 4:07:47 PM EDT
Spend a shit ton on something frivilous.

A MarColMar PKM worked for me.
Link Posted: 4/6/2010 8:27:38 AM EDT
Benelli M4? Suppressors? SBS - SBR? High quality glass? These items have renewed my interest in the shooting sports.
Link Posted: 4/6/2010 9:00:53 AM EDT
Take up a shooting sport?

If you actually have something to do with your guns that might rekindle some interest.

Link Posted: 4/7/2010 1:31:53 PM EDT
Ecclesiastes 1

Everything Is Meaningless
1 The words of the Teacher, [a] son of David, king in Jerusalem:

2 "Meaningless! Meaningless!"
says the Teacher.
"Utterly meaningless!
Everything is meaningless."

3 What does man gain from all his labor
at which he toils under the sun?

4 Generations come and generations go,
but the earth remains forever.

5 The sun rises and the sun sets,
and hurries back to where it rises.

6 The wind blows to the south
and turns to the north;
round and round it goes,
ever returning on its course.

7 All streams flow into the sea,
yet the sea is never full.
To the place the streams come from,
there they return again.

8 All things are wearisome,
more than one can say.
The eye never has enough of seeing,
nor the ear its fill of hearing.

9 What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.

10 Is there anything of which one can say,
"Look! This is something new"?
It was here already, long ago;
it was here before our time.

11 There is no remembrance of men of old,
and even those who are yet to come
will not be remembered
by those who follow.

Maybe a quick read of the book of Ecclesiastes?

Link Posted: 4/7/2010 5:07:57 PM EDT
Start collecting tax stamps. Got 2, about to start on #3.

Link Posted: 4/8/2010 5:23:38 PM EDT
I take a hiatus from the world of firearms - but never sell anyone of what I have. Take up cars, fishing, whatever else and later - come back.
Link Posted: 4/9/2010 8:52:13 AM EDT
AR-180?

Link Posted: 4/9/2010 7:23:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Beyond_Visual_Range:
I don't see you mentioning XCR. It's a modern piston driven AR/AK type rifle, with plenty of metal.

You may also have to face the music that modern guns will have more and more polymer so you'll have to stay old school if you want all metal components.


+1, wait for the .308 version coming out very soon.
Link Posted: 4/9/2010 10:32:00 PM EDT
Interesting to read all the ideas; especially guys that have been down the same road.

I didnt mention the XCR-M because, well, I'm really sick of the waiting games. (not just RobArm, but others too) Now, if the XCR-M was available, and could be ordered Monday and have it by Friday; color me highly interested. Same thing for several rifles on the future market.

The LMT 308 looks tempting as well; but it's almost like I talk myself out of things. Sure would be nice to take a break from responsibility for a little while.
Link Posted: 4/9/2010 10:32:59 PM EDT
Interesting to read all the ideas; especially guys that have been down the same road.

I didnt mention the XCR-M because, well, I'm really sick of the waiting games. (not just RobArm, but others too) Now, if the XCR-M was available, and could be ordered Monday and have it by Friday; color me highly interested. Same thing for several rifles on the future market.

The LMT 308 looks tempting as well; but it's almost like I talk myself out of things. Sure would be nice to take a break from responsibility for a little while.
Link Posted: 4/10/2010 3:53:10 AM EDT
CMP Garands
Link Posted: 4/10/2010 5:32:04 AM EDT
There are plenty of other "angles" to go for:

ARs- Everything from retro carbines to the latest tactifag gear.

Old 1980s AW; Everything from odd stuff like the Bushmaster assault rifle, to imports like the FNC.

C&R semi autos... old school battle rifles.

C&R pistols... Lots of old semis to collect and shoot..


I could go on..


Link Posted: 4/10/2010 7:13:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2010 7:14:35 AM EDT by R_Fury]
Cowboy Action, steel and wood all the way!

Uberiti lightening rifle 45Lc.

http://www.uberti.com/firearms/lightning.php

Colt Single Action Army, 45LC

http://www.uberti.com/firearms/single_action_cattleman.php

Stoeger Coach gun 12 gauge.

http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/stoeger_coach_gun_single_triggers.php
Link Posted: 4/10/2010 7:17:26 AM EDT
Have you ever tried a vz58? I like the older pre 1950 stuff. Another suggestion have you ever thought of building your own flintlock?

CD
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