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Posted: 8/29/2004 11:40:04 AM EDT
If one puts Vortex on an 18 1/2" "Scout/Bush" length barrell, will it fit snugly against the gas block as seen in the below picture?
 ...or is the barrel in the picture cut to a custom length, to achieve just that? |
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Posted: 8/29/2004 12:17:03 PM EDT
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I think the barrel needs to be 17 5/8" for the smith direct connect vortex to fit like the one in your pic.
I saw the barrel length listed here... www.msgt-maze.com/LRBm14BushRifle.html?1064805834088 I have seen some pics of one on an 18.5 inch barrel and there was a gap between the vortex and the sight/cylinder lock. |
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Posted: 8/29/2004 12:35:30 PM EDT
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Stupid question:
If one had the Vortex permanently attached, to eliminate the "evilness" of the Muzzle Threads, that would make it impossible to fully disassemle the rifle, right? Would this be a no go, or would it just mean that the rifle would have to remain in that configuration permanently? |
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Posted: 8/29/2004 2:02:27 PM EDT
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Unless I am greatly mistaken, the M1A barrel is not threaded. Maybe not even the version of which you speak.
As to your second question, I.E., a permanent attachment, perhaps thet might interfere with the removal of the gas piston. If so, that would be a sure-fire NO-GO. Suggest you contact Smith, et.al., with rifle in hand and measurement tools, for an exact answer. Good move on the Vortex, though. My experience with shorter-length 7.62mm barreled rifles leads me to the conclusion that they are dead give-aways in dark conditions unless an effective FS is installed. Slightly O.T.: There are probably thousands of firearms owners who have never taken the trouble to fire their guns (pistol, shotgun, rifle, whatever) at night. My guess is that a good many would be horrified to learn that, due to muzzle flash, they will have only one aimed shot. |
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Posted: 8/29/2004 2:31:17 PM EDT
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How then does one attach the Vortex? Doesn't it screw on? |
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Posted: 8/29/2004 2:36:44 PM EDT
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Wow. That's the nicest  Douglas barrel, LRB receiver, all else USGI, Smith assembled with a Vortex.... Perfect. |
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Posted: 8/29/2004 2:43:27 PM EDT
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Uhhhh. That's not a Scout. Scout means optics mounted roughly at receiver/barrel junction. That is a well-executed Squad-length-barreled rifle, though. Personally, I'd prefer an IOR M2 to the red dot. YMMV. |
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Posted: 8/29/2004 2:51:28 PM EDT
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Roger that.
I'm mixing up my "flavor of the day" M1A speak. "Squad". How about "Bush" length? I'll call it that. 
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Posted: 8/29/2004 2:53:06 PM EDT
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There are two styles of Smith Enterprise Sommers Vortex M14 flash hider, direct connect and traditional. The direct connect threads on and self-tightens with use. The traditional style has the front sight base and uses the "castle" nut for attachment just like the USGI flash suppressor. We've tested various M14 muzzle attachments at night in the desert. The Sommers Vortex flash hider totally eliminates all flash. You'll also need to resight your zero ONCE if you install a Sommers Vortex.
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Posted: 8/29/2004 2:54:34 PM EDT
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Bush works for me. 
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Posted: 8/29/2004 2:55:08 PM EDT
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www.smithenterprise.com for more information on the Sommers Vortex flash hider.
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Posted: 8/29/2004 3:00:47 PM EDT
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Squad/Bush, I've lost track. Sorry for the misnomer.
Keep in mind that the graduations on the rear sight will no longer be relevant, nor will the bullet have nearly as much energy at any given range. Personally I've always considered the M1A as a middlin' distance rifle, and quite good at that, in its original configuration. For lesser ranges, there is the AR, and the combat shotgun. Can't see the sense in voluntarily partially neutering a fine Main Battle Rifle, but YMMV. Regardless, best of luck! |
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Posted: 8/30/2004 3:04:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/30/2004 5:43:59 AM EDT
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Anyone makes a flash suppressor to replace the muzzle brake on a SOCOM 16?
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Posted: 8/30/2004 6:18:35 AM EDT
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Here it is on an SA Scout rifle.  |
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