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Posted: 10/8/2012 9:11:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/9/2012 5:17:05 PM EST by AN94NK]
I dont know about you but imo a well worn "Been there done that!" lightly browned & discolored can is hot (No pun intended)

EDIT, Here is my Phantom. It only has around 3K rounds through it. Its built like a freakin tank. I even dropped it on concrete. barely even scratched the finish.
Yes I learned the hard way that you dont use a nylon oven mit to take a hot can off the barrel.


Wow looks like I need to order a break/mount
Link Posted: 10/9/2012 12:56:27 AM EST
Always love these threads
Link Posted: 10/9/2012 3:35:30 AM EST
Tag.

Dont have one to submit just yet.
Link Posted: 10/9/2012 5:31:02 AM EST
Sadly, I don't get to use mine enough to wear them out right now.
Link Posted: 10/9/2012 5:35:25 AM EST
Tag for when I get home, my oldest can is a 2007 AAC M4-2000. At least 25-30k rounds through it, finish burnt off years ago and its been painted about 5 times
Link Posted: 10/9/2012 7:35:23 AM EST
Tag

Looking forward to seeing these!
Link Posted: 10/9/2012 2:11:46 PM EST
Tagging to post here in a few years
Link Posted: 10/9/2012 2:19:33 PM EST
My can is still in jail .

Link Posted: 10/9/2012 3:15:46 PM EST
My son needed to finish off a hog but didn't hold off. A contact shot near the ear sent bloody pieces and dirt everywhere and is not recommended unless you need a cool pix.
Link Posted: 10/9/2012 3:54:01 PM EST
Where's all the damn pictures!!!!
Link Posted: 10/9/2012 7:12:30 PM EST
Originally Posted By gbcop:
Where's all the damn pictures!!!!


Right here, I think I have the winners so far but i'm sure these will be topped.


Link Posted: 10/9/2012 7:23:51 PM EST
Originally Posted By FiveToOne:
Originally Posted By gbcop:
Where's all the damn pictures!!!!


Right here, I think I have the winners so far but i'm sure these will be topped.

http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp80/trn_photobucket/DSC00417.jpg
http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp80/trn_photobucket/IMG_0901.jpg


Why is the 2nd one purple????
Link Posted: 10/9/2012 7:42:07 PM EST
Looks like he put a lot of ammo through it quickly
Link Posted: 10/10/2012 12:44:06 AM EST
Bump for more.
Link Posted: 10/10/2012 2:19:36 PM EST
Originally Posted By AN94NK:
Originally Posted By FiveToOne:
Originally Posted By gbcop:
Where's all the damn pictures!!!!


Right here, I think I have the winners so far but i'm sure these will be topped.

http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp80/trn_photobucket/DSC00417.jpg
http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp80/trn_photobucket/IMG_0901.jpg


Why is the 2nd one purple????


Heat. Probably from dumping mags and/or a drum!
Link Posted: 10/10/2012 3:47:15 PM EST
Originally Posted By AN94NK:
Originally Posted By FiveToOne:
Originally Posted By gbcop:
Where's all the damn pictures!!!!


Right here, I think I have the winners so far but i'm sure these will be topped.

http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp80/trn_photobucket/DSC00417.jpg
http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp80/trn_photobucket/IMG_0901.jpg


Why is the 2nd one purple????


3 mags dumped through a can = improvised marshmallow roaster
Link Posted: 10/11/2012 9:49:38 AM EST
The Grunt suppressor after Chris Costa's advanced carbine class, 2,600 rounds in three days.
Link Posted: 10/11/2012 10:27:02 AM EST
Excellent photo! Thanks for posting.
Link Posted: 10/11/2012 11:10:04 AM EST
XXX warrior.

We've lit cigars and cooked fajitas on it at the Hun Farm.

TXL
Link Posted: 10/17/2012 4:05:11 PM EST
Ttt, lets see more!
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 11:26:42 AM EST
The day picked it up.


First 500 rounds on a 10.5" barrel, 3-prong blackout mount.


Burned the finish off shortly there after dumping mags.




Not much changed after I got the brake mount.


But the brake started to suffer.


Can was heated up more and more.


Brake suffered more.


Brake wearing.


Can surviving.


Rifle shot like a dream.


Brake wearing more.


And more.


Mag dumps will accelerate wear...


Was fun shooting though.


Heat taking its toll on the finish.


Smoking hot at times.


Brake sucking up the erosion.


Can surviving pretty good.


Brake wearing away.


Can still going strong.


Brake doing its job.


First end cap kiss.


Can still holding up well.


Second hit.


Brake worth every penny.




And even went to SD with me.


Latch showing its wear.
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 2:27:04 PM EST
Originally Posted By WI57:
The day picked it up.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P8051531.jpg

First 500 rounds on a 10.5" barrel, 3-prong blackout mount.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P3111749.jpg

Burned the finish off shortly there after dumping mags.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4131813.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4131810.jpg

Not much changed after I got the brake mount.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4131807.jpg

But the brake started to suffer.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4131804.jpg

Can was heated up more and more.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4131801.jpg

Brake suffered more.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4141818.jpg

Brake wearing.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4171844.jpg

Can surviving.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4171843.jpg

Rifle shot like a dream.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4171821.jpg

Brake wearing more.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P6131745.jpg

And more.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P6131746.jpg

Mag dumps will accelerate wear...
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P7021726.jpg

Was fun shooting though.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P7021731.jpg

Heat taking its toll on the finish.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P7021734.jpg

Smoking hot at times.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/Misc/P6241909.jpg

Brake sucking up the erosion.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P9031767.jpg

Can surviving pretty good.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P9121769.jpg

Brake wearing away.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P9121773.jpg

Can still going strong.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P7041932.jpg

Brake doing its job.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P8201979.jpg

First end cap kiss.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P9091939.jpg

Can still holding up well.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/PA152021.jpg

Second hit.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/PA152024.jpg

Brake worth every penny.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/PA152022.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/PA152023.jpg

And even went to SD with me.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/SD11/P5281885.jpg

Latch showing its wear.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/PA152019.jpg


wow!!!
Wish I could afford to shoot that much.
How many rounds you got through it so far?
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 3:17:52 PM EST
Originally Posted By AN94NK:
wow!!!
Wish I could afford to shoot that much.
How many rounds you got through it so far?



Just shy of 8,000 rounds, majority of it was XM193.

Almost all on the 10.5" barrels, but about 750 were on my 20" Remington.
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 4:34:19 PM EST
Originally Posted By WI57:
Originally Posted By AN94NK:
wow!!!
Wish I could afford to shoot that much.
How many rounds you got through it so far?



Just shy of 8,000 rounds, majority of it was XM193.

Almost all on the 10.5" barrels, but about 750 were on my 20" Remington.


Nice time to send to AAC to get it make up put on!

I'm getting my M4-2000 soon! Next month hopefully! What ammo grain did you use? I know 223 is hard to find subsonic so should we use regular ammo?
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 5:58:23 PM EST
only pic i have on here now of my SBR set up. maybe 1,000 out of it but 2 60rd SF mag dump and a few mags in say 6min or less gave it a nice color.

Link Posted: 10/19/2012 5:57:26 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/19/2012 6:36:52 AM EST
Anyone burn the finish off a .22 can?
Link Posted: 10/19/2012 3:33:24 PM EST


Nice colors!
What can is that.. Liberty Torch?
Link Posted: 10/19/2012 9:54:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By chase45:
Looks like he put a lot of ammo through it quickly


Link Posted: 10/20/2012 5:26:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By AN94NK:


Nice colors!
What can is that.. Liberty Torch?


It is an older STW M4 Ti suppressor.
Link Posted: 10/20/2012 5:40:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By WI57:

Brake worth every penny.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/PA152022.jpg

Can someone explain this?

How is the brake taking load off of the can?

Link Posted: 10/20/2012 6:01:59 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/21/2012 9:51:16 AM EST
Originally Posted By bcauz3y:

Originally Posted By WI57:

Brake worth every penny.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/PA152022.jpg

Can someone explain this?

How is the brake taking load off of the can?



Flame cutting as mentioned and unburnt powder "sandblasting" or eroding the baffle stack.

Without a brake the blast baffle takes the brunt of the erosion, but it also travels down the inside of the suppressor eroding the inside of the suppressor.

With a brake the chambers of a brake act as a sacrificial blast baffle preventing damage to the suppressor.

The more erosion, the larger the hole, the louder the suppressor becomes.

Even was effecting the inside of the endcap:



Link Posted: 10/21/2012 11:57:18 AM EST
Cool, thanks!
Link Posted: 10/22/2012 7:16:25 PM EST
Cool thread.
Link Posted: 10/23/2012 3:31:38 AM EST
Originally Posted By WI57:
The day picked it up.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P8051531.jpg

First 500 rounds on a 10.5" barrel, 3-prong blackout mount.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P3111749.jpg

Burned the finish off shortly there after dumping mags.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4131813.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4131810.jpg

Not much changed after I got the brake mount.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4131807.jpg

But the brake started to suffer.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4131804.jpg

Can was heated up more and more.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4131801.jpg

Brake suffered more.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4141818.jpg

Brake wearing.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4171844.jpg

Can surviving.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4171843.jpg

Rifle shot like a dream.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4171821.jpg

Brake wearing more.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P6131745.jpg

And more.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P6131746.jpg

Mag dumps will accelerate wear...
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P7021726.jpg

Was fun shooting though.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P7021731.jpg

Heat taking its toll on the finish.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P7021734.jpg

Smoking hot at times.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/Misc/P6241909.jpg

Brake sucking up the erosion.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P9031767.jpg

Can surviving pretty good.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P9121769.jpg

Brake wearing away.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P9121773.jpg

Can still going strong.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P7041932.jpg

Brake doing its job.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P8201979.jpg

First end cap kiss.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P9091939.jpg

Can still holding up well.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/PA152021.jpg

Second hit.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/PA152024.jpg

Brake worth every penny.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/PA152022.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/PA152023.jpg

And even went to SD with me.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/SD11/P5281885.jpg

Latch showing its wear.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/PA152019.jpg


Great 'story/timeline'. Very happy I went with a brake on my 12"
Link Posted: 10/23/2012 4:45:01 AM EST
Cool pics. Anybody know when it's a good time to replace a muzzle brake? I've got a M42K coming soon and just curious for the future.
Link Posted: 10/23/2012 5:00:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/23/2012 5:02:28 PM EST by LMTRocks]
Originally Posted By EODcrawler:
Cool pics. Anybody know when it's a good time to replace a muzzle brake? I've got a M42K coming soon and just curious for the future.


You'll know. Just look at it and decide you don't like the way it looks.

Maybe 20k rounds downrange to replace the $150 brake.

Also depends on what length barrel and what kind of ammo.
Link Posted: 10/23/2012 5:43:37 PM EST
Thanks. My SBR loves M855 so that's what I stick with. Probably going to take me a while to get to 20K.
Link Posted: 10/23/2012 9:02:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By LMTRocks:
Originally Posted By EODcrawler:
Cool pics. Anybody know when it's a good time to replace a muzzle brake? I've got a M42K coming soon and just curious for the future.


You'll know. Just look at it and decide you don't like the way it looks.

Maybe 20k rounds downrange to replace the $150 brake.

Also depends on what length barrel and what kind of ammo.


Brakes from AAC/Surefire are made from high-quality stainless steel. Their suppressors are made from high quality 7xx series Inconel. If the brake will last around 20K rounds, doesn't it stand to reason that the blast-baffle of the suppressor would, too? I see a lot of to do over using a brake as a sacrificial component, but shouldn't a quality suppressor out-last the barrel even with a FH on a 10.5"?
Link Posted: 10/23/2012 9:15:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By 12_gauge:
Originally Posted By LMTRocks:
Originally Posted By EODcrawler:
Cool pics. Anybody know when it's a good time to replace a muzzle brake? I've got a M42K coming soon and just curious for the future.


You'll know. Just look at it and decide you don't like the way it looks.

Maybe 20k rounds downrange to replace the $150 brake.

Also depends on what length barrel and what kind of ammo.


Brakes from AAC/Surefire are made from high-quality stainless steel. Their suppressors are made from high quality 7xx series Inconel. If the brake will last around 20K rounds, doesn't it stand to reason that the blast-baffle of the suppressor would, too? I see a lot of to do over using a brake as a sacrificial component, but shouldn't a quality suppressor out-last the barrel even with a FH on a 10.5"?


Easier and cheaper to replace a brake mount than a can.

Link Posted: 10/23/2012 10:55:14 PM EST
Originally Posted By blackfly53:
Originally Posted By 12_gauge:
Originally Posted By LMTRocks:
Originally Posted By EODcrawler:
Cool pics. Anybody know when it's a good time to replace a muzzle brake? I've got a M42K coming soon and just curious for the future.


You'll know. Just look at it and decide you don't like the way it looks.

Maybe 20k rounds downrange to replace the $150 brake.

Also depends on what length barrel and what kind of ammo.


Brakes from AAC/Surefire are made from high-quality stainless steel. Their suppressors are made from high quality 7xx series Inconel. If the brake will last around 20K rounds, doesn't it stand to reason that the blast-baffle of the suppressor would, too? I see a lot of to do over using a brake as a sacrificial component, but shouldn't a quality suppressor out-last the barrel even with a FH on a 10.5"?


Easier and cheaper to replace a brake mount than a can.



Yes, I agree, but the can should still give @ 20K rounds of service easily, unless you just try to tear it up, no?
Link Posted: 10/24/2012 2:18:56 AM EST
I'd rather wear out a $140 unregistered item that I can pick up any day of the week, over an $800+ registered item that took 6 months to get. The amount of abuse the suppressor can or should be able to handle is kind of irrelevant, don't you think?
Link Posted: 10/24/2012 5:08:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2012 5:09:49 AM EST by 12_gauge]
Originally Posted By hobbydad:
I'd rather wear out a $140 unregistered item that I can pick up any day of the week, over an $800+ registered item that took 6 months to get. The amount of abuse the suppressor can or should be able to handle is kind of irrelevant, don't you think?


Not really irrelevant, I hate brakes, and if there is even the slightest chance I will fire the weapon unsuppressed, I don't want a braked 10.5" gun. If you are a high-volume shooter, then I can see it, but I just bought two 556-212's and they should last me a lifetime of shooting unless a baffle-strike occurs. Suppressors are wear items like a barrel, in my way of thinking. I for one do not want to take my suppressors to a class where I will be shooting the cheapest reliable ammunition I can get hold of, getting the barrel hot, etc. and I also don't want to be "that guy" who brings a braked rifle to class, either.
Link Posted: 10/24/2012 8:14:25 AM EST

Originally Posted By EODcrawler:
Thanks. My SBR loves M855 so that's what I stick with. Probably going to take me a while to get to 20K.

This is my thinking, as well. I don't want to burn out my can, but the limited amount that I shoot (time and money for ammo) means it is going to be years and years before there is any possibility of eroding my can significantly.

Changing jobs and having a baby in the last 6 months has allowed me to order ammo and not shoot it!
Link Posted: 10/24/2012 9:01:08 AM EST
FA556AR it's spent a lot of time on both my 11.5" AR (pictured) and my 16" AR.







Link Posted: 10/24/2012 10:29:53 AM EST
Originally Posted By 12_gauge:
Not really irrelevant, I hate brakes, and if there is even the slightest chance I will fire the weapon unsuppressed, I don't want a braked 10.5" gun. If you are a high-volume shooter, then I can see it, but I just bought two 556-212's and they should last me a lifetime of shooting unless a baffle-strike occurs. Suppressors are wear items like a barrel, in my way of thinking. I for one do not want to take my suppressors to a class where I will be shooting the cheapest reliable ammunition I can get hold of, getting the barrel hot, etc. and I also don't want to be "that guy" who brings a braked rifle to class, either.



Originally Posted By Poppy83:
This is my thinking, as well. I don't want to burn out my can, but the limited amount that I shoot (time and money for ammo) means it is going to be years and years before there is any possibility of eroding my can significantly. [div]


I do understand your comments on shooting the brake unsuppressed, I was next to a braked/unsuppressed .308 a few days ago at an indoor. My thought's on a suppressed SBR have always been to never take the suppressor off, so the brake wouldn't matter to me or anyone that shot with me. I also understand the low round counts that alot of people shoot (myself included), but then I look at the blast cone on the M42K on the first page of this thread. After just 500 rounds on an SBR without a break it looks bad. I think you'd all agree that 500 rounds is nothing for even the most reserved shooter. Just my .02, a differance of opinion is all. I bought my can to use it, and have only fired 5 shots with it off since I got it. When my form 1 comes back I'll be switching from my FH to a brake to avoid the inevitable wear. I'd like it to last a lifetime, not simply x-amount of rounds.

Link Posted: 10/24/2012 12:13:49 PM EST
There is a substantial difference in erosion between a 10.5" barrel and 11.5" barrel. Look at the blast baffle on my can above. I haven't tracked my shooting but that's seen over 500 rounds from my 11.5" and that's not counting at least as much from my 16" and the fact that I got used it in a private transfer.
Link Posted: 10/24/2012 7:45:01 PM EST
would tjis fall under AAC warrenty? would the rework the insides if tne baffelswas super erodef?
Link Posted: 10/24/2012 8:04:29 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2012 8:07:56 PM EST by AN94NK]
Originally Posted By skt4271:
would tjis fall under AAC warrenty? would the rework the insides if tne baffelswas super erodef?


Ok you really need to work on your typing skills.
I think this is what you were trying to say.
Would this fall under AAC's warranty? Would they rework the insides if the baffles was to erode?

Anyways. Im not sure about ACC's warranty. But YHM's warranty covers cleaning & replacing worn out baffles free of charge. Unless your host firearm has an incorrectly threaded barrel or you dont install the QD mount correctly... (They actually want you to have a licensed gunsmith install the mount) Or you just do something really stupid like not threading the can on completely.
Link Posted: 10/24/2012 8:26:49 PM EST
Thanks man, I'm on my phone and the toilet-
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