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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - School me on the Kel-Tec Sub 2000 in 9mm

Posted: 2/24/2009 9:11:47 AM EDT

I've got a surplus of pistol magazines and was looking at a Sub 2000 as a cheap (under $400) pistol carbine option.

1) Are they reliable?
2) How is accuracy compared to other pistol carbines?
3) How much aftermarket support is out there (sight upgrades, mounts for red-dots, etc)?
4) I owned a Camp Carbine in the past and have always regretted selling it. Is the Sub 2000 a step up or down?

Posted: 2/24/2009 9:25:49 AM EDT

[#1]

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I've got a surplus of pistol magazines and was looking at a Sub 2000 as a cheap (under $400) pistol carbine option.

1) Are they reliable?

Ours have been. (My SUB-2000 and my wife's SUB-9)

2) How is accuracy compared to other pistol carbines?

Good enough inside 100 yards. Some runs have been more accurate than others over the years, from what I've read.

3) How much aftermarket support is out there (sight upgrades, mounts for red-dots, etc)?

Some. More than for the Marlin or Ruger; not as much as for the Storm or (of course) the AR. KTOG.ORG is a great resource for such.

4) I owned a Camp Carbine in the past and have always regretted selling it. Is the Sub 2000 a step up or down?

I also have two 9mm Camp Carbines and I consider the KT a step up for several reasons –– a variety of mag options instead of just S&W; MCC was never rated for +P ammo; size/weight; foldability/stowability; etc.

I mush prefer my 9mm ARs, but the KT SUB is hard to beat for the money IMO.

BTW, if you think a Pistol Caliber Carbine Forum to discuss things like this would be a good idea for the site, please voice your opinion here: http://www.jobrelatedstuff.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=2&t=822166

Posted: 2/24/2009 12:06:24 PM EDT

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They are novel in that they fold and can be transported to and from a range discreatly, without freaking the neighbors out.

They can be a bit limited in useful accessories due to the fact that they fold. Mounting different sights becomes an issue for folding it.

They give you a decent increase in accuracy over a pistol. If you get the Glock mag version, you can use reliable 33 round mags.

I have one. I don't shoot it too often, but I can't bring myself to part with it due to the fun factor.

Posted: 2/24/2009 1:40:37 PM EDT

[#3]

What type of action does it have? Is it SAO, SA/DA or DAO? Is it striker or hammer fired?

Posted: 2/24/2009 1:50:26 PM EDT

[#4]

SAO, hammer-fired.

Very good overview here: http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/sub2000.htm

Posted: 2/25/2009 4:50:16 AM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
I've got a surplus of pistol magazines and was looking at a Sub 2000 as a cheap (under $400) pistol carbine option.

1) Are they reliable?
2) How is accuracy compared to other pistol carbines?
3) How much aftermarket support is out there (sight upgrades, mounts for red-dots, etc)?
4) I owned a Camp Carbine in the past and have always regretted selling it. Is the Sub 2000 a step up or down?
5) Why are the G17 & G19 models so damn hard to find? The word once was that they made runs of one model at a time. If this is true, does any one know when the next G17/19 run will be? Who has them in stock NOW?

Fixed it.

Posted: 2/25/2009 6:39:45 AM EDT

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I emailed them yesterday and I just got a reply back saying that they make them year round, not in batches or "certain times of the year".

I've got my dealer hunting for one for me now.

Posted: 2/25/2009 9:22:04 AM EDT

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I emailed them yesterday and I just got a reply back saying that they make them year round, not in batches or "certain times of the year".

I've got my dealer hunting for one for me now.

Good call. You will like it. I like mine as for the reasons stated above.

Max

Posted: 2/26/2009 4:33:22 PM EDT

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ARe these the same as a SUB-9? I have someone trying to sell me his SUB-9, just not sure what the differences are.

Posted: 2/26/2009 5:13:07 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I've got a surplus of pistol magazines and was looking at a Sub 2000 as a cheap (under $400) pistol carbine option.

1) Are they reliable?
2) How is accuracy compared to other pistol carbines?
3) How much aftermarket support is out there (sight upgrades, mounts for red-dots, etc)?
4) I owned a Camp Carbine in the past and have always regretted selling it. Is the Sub 2000 a step up or down?
5) Why are the G17 & G19 models so damn hard to find? The word once was that they made runs of one model at a time. If this is true, does any one know when the next G17/19 run will be? Who has them in stock NOW?

Fixed it.

lol g17 and g19 hard to find? i have been looking for one on and off for the last few YEARS and i have only seen ONE sig 226 version and didnt have hte money at hte time to buy it.

i see plenty of the g17 and berretta mag verisons, with a few S&W and g19 mag verisons thrown in.

i just did a search on gunbroker and the first three are g17 versions

Posted: 2/26/2009 5:14:39 PM EDT

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ARe these the same as a SUB-9? I have someone trying to sell me his SUB-9, just not sure what the differences are.

the sub-9 is older and all metal IIRC. its much more desireable to some.

Posted: 2/26/2009 5:39:25 PM EDT

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Quoted:

Quoted:

ARe these the same as a SUB-9? I have someone trying to sell me his SUB-9, just not sure what the differences are.

the sub-9 is older and all metal IIRC. its much more desireable to some.

We have both and I consider the SUB-9 superior, FWIW. Back when they were new, they sold for almost twice what the S2K's sell for.

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