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Posted: 8/1/2005 4:47:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/1/2005 4:47:27 PM EDT by tc6969]
What's the best way to go to get the same look as the Russian bluing used? I had to strip the floorplate and bolt, and the bluing I used is much lighter. Any help would be appreciated.
Link Posted: 6/25/2005 9:42:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/25/2005 9:43:07 PM EDT by Fat_McNasty]
Hot blue is the only way to get the deep dark blue.

ETA: What cold blue are you using?
Link Posted: 6/25/2005 9:47:27 PM EDT
Birchwood-Casey's Perma-Blue
Link Posted: 6/25/2005 9:52:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/25/2005 9:53:08 PM EDT by Fat_McNasty]
Ok here is a trick... Get some MEK. Wash the part really good!. The heat it to the point its warm to the touch. The swab the Cold blue on let set (10 ish mins). scrub with 0000 Steel wool that has been soaked and dried in MEK. Reheat and apply again, scrub. Repeat till its darker. Then when you get it to where you want it then oil it.

Or send it to a gunsmith with $30 taped to it.
Link Posted: 6/25/2005 9:57:08 PM EDT
Where can I find MEK?
Link Posted: 6/25/2005 9:58:22 PM EDT
Ive tried all the cold blues, just pay for a hot blue so it can soak in, cold blues only do a thin a layer of blue on
Link Posted: 6/25/2005 9:58:38 PM EDT
Methel Ethel Keytone. Or Acetone will work in a pinch!
Link Posted: 6/25/2005 10:05:12 PM EDT
I've used Fat_McNasty's technique with good results on my 98k, except I used denatured alcohol instead of MEK. MEK is some nasty shite, it's bad enough I have to use it at work!





Link Posted: 6/25/2005 10:06:04 PM EDT
Thanks a ton!
Link Posted: 6/25/2005 10:09:12 PM EDT
While we're on the topic... the one part on the bolt that comes red after the Russians blued it (not sure of name, it rotates on the bolt, connected to the spring band) and the strip thats on the bolt release, how would I get those to the color of the bluing?
Link Posted: 6/25/2005 10:12:26 PM EDT
Hot blue.... No really...
Link Posted: 6/25/2005 10:16:30 PM EDT
Thanks for the help
Link Posted: 6/25/2005 10:21:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/25/2005 10:30:06 PM EDT by JB69]
If you're gonna go anywhere near MEK, wear a GOOD respirator and gloves.

It's not nice stuff. There are much better alternatives. Denatured alcohol being one of them.

Be safe.

Link Posted: 6/25/2005 10:34:24 PM EDT
I've cold blued my fair share of barrels, and my best results have come with Birchwood Casey's Super Blue. It is FAR better than the Perma-Blue.

You really gotta make sure you degrease it. LOTS of alcohol. Wear rubber gloves as well...and have plenty of them in case you rip them.

Coat it with Super Blue, rinse in cold water, then scrub it down with 0000 steel wool, then coat it with Super Blue again, rinse, scrub. After 6-7 coats of bluing, rinsing, and scrubbing...you will get a fairly decent finish.
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 4:40:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By walrus:
Did 1938 production K98's have front sight hoods?



That is a negative. My K98 was made in 1940 and it has no groove in the front sight base for the hood. If you want to be sure, just look at the base and see if it has the grooves, if it does, then you need a hood.
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 2:37:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/1/2005 2:39:08 PM EDT by walrus]
Did it about 4 weeks ago, just got around to posting pictures now. Re-blued the bolt and several other small parts to make it correct / non-plum colored. Also took off the cosmoline and shellac and applied some Tru-Oil to the wood after sanding. All I need now is my sling and cleaning rod. Did 1938 production K98's have front sight hoods?

Original rifle -

Re-blued -







Link Posted: 8/1/2005 2:55:40 PM EDT
Walrus--excellent job!
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 3:03:36 PM EDT
Wow, looks good.
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 3:09:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By walrus:
Did it about 4 weeks ago, just got around to posting pictures now. Re-blued the bolt and several other small parts to make it correct / non-plum colored. Also took off the cosmoline and shellac and applied some Tru-Oil to the wood after sanding. All I need now is my sling and cleaning rod. Did 1938 production K98's have front sight hoods?

Original rifle - img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/hi2u/b84cbebd.jpg

Re-blued - img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/hi2u/2293b2d8.jpg

img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/hi2u/72c0d922.jpg

img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/hi2u/10ab7739.jpg

img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/hi2u/4.jpg





I just refinished the stock and metal of my M98 turk mauser, did you refinish the bolt? how does it shoot, does the bolt move freely? thats a nice looking rifle.

on mine I just used the birchwood casey blue and tru-oil, it looks pretty good, not quite as dark but it started out with almost no blue on the exposed parts and the wood felt like it had a layer of glue on it.

mine:
sorry my camara sucks





Link Posted: 8/1/2005 3:10:34 PM EDT
Nice job.
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 3:14:44 PM EDT
That's a fine looking rifle.

Excellent job!
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 5:23:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 223-4me:


I just refinished the stock and metal of my M98 turk mauser, did you refinish the bolt? how does it shoot, does the bolt move freely? thats a nice looking rifle.




Yes the bolt was refinished using birchwood-casey's blue. Shoots great, and the great moves smooth as butter. No electro-pencil number anymore either
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 8:57:02 PM EDT
If you want a really good real blue job at home for small parts, get some of the rust blue solution Brownell's sells. It's labor intensive but not any worse than some of the methods already discussed. Prepare your part for bluing, degrease, polish, etc. Then swab on a coat of the solution and hang overnight to rust. Next day boil in hot water for 30 minutes, take some fine steel wool and polish off the oxide that forms, repeat until you get the depth of color you are happy with. This is the way most firearms like Lugers and such were blued up until the late 1930s. It's tough, beautiful, and permanent. It won't just rub off,
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 6:40:51 PM EDT
What is the difference between perma-blue and super-blue?
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 1:44:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By QUIB:
I've used Fat_McNasty's technique with good results on my 98k, except I used denatured alcohol instead of MEK. MEK is some nasty shite, it's bad enough I have to use it at work!

img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Metroliner/K983.jpg






Quib, do you mind if I use this amazing pic as my avatar until I can take a good one with my K98?
Link Posted: 8/11/2005 5:53:35 AM EDT
man I want a mauser. those are some good looking guns.
Link Posted: 8/11/2005 5:56:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/11/2005 5:57:11 AM EDT by MauserMark]

Originally Posted By Big-Will:
man I want a mauser. those are some good looking guns.



just painful to shoot off a bench. <-- that's what the right side of my face looks like from shooting one all day.
Link Posted: 8/11/2005 10:03:13 AM EDT
I only shoot mine offhand, not trying to dislocate my shoulder.
Link Posted: 8/13/2005 4:07:43 PM EDT
My 19 year old daughter,s favorite rifle is my 8 mm .I had to get a gell butt pad because it would bruise her so bad.I am talking some big nasty purple ones,but she still shot the hell out of it.I told her to never let any one see the bruises because they would take me to jail for abuse.
Link Posted: 8/13/2005 4:20:16 PM EDT
DANG, walrus! She looks brand-new! You can even see the reflection of the deck on the buttplate.

Really nice job!
Link Posted: 8/13/2005 8:29:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By coyote3:
DANG, walrus! She looks brand-new! You can even see the reflection of the deck on the buttplate.

Really nice job!



thank you much i take pride in my rifles
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