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Posted: 11/24/2014 5:37:52 PM EDT
Anyone use the RCBS Lube die?  If so, what lube are you using?  Also, RCBS doesnt seem to specify which lube die you need for .223, which one is it?  Im thinking the #1, but want to be sure.

As Ive been running thru depriming, resizing before trimming, Ive been trying to find ways to speed up the process, and it looks like this could be the answer.  Ive tried using a box, and just using spray lube, but it seems to be messy.  Also had some issues with denting a case every now and then using this method in spite of going sparingly with the lube.  Since I plan on adding a case feeder to my LnL I dont want to get the hopper full of lube either.  Right now Ive just been using an old ink stamper with some Ballistol on it to lube my cases.  It works, but when I have north of 1k brass to process, I need to get rolling.

My thoughts are this:
Station 1: decap with Lee universal decapping die.
Station 2: RCBS lube die without decapping pin
Station 3: RCBS FL sizing die, with decapping pin cut off sizer
I trim to length with a WFT at this point
From there the brass goes into a SSTL media tumbler to take off the rough edges and be ready to load.

You guys see any issues setting up like this?

Future Station 4: Dillon case trimmer - May or may not work due to clearance issues.  May build my own trimmer based off a small router as well.  This is a ways off, pie in the sky idea.  :)

Link Posted: 11/24/2014 8:13:51 PM EDT
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RCBS recommends their own lube, of course: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1458143436/rcbs-case-lube-2-liquid

They also specify which lube die to use for a wide assortment of calibers in the manual for your lube die: http://www.rcbs.com/downloads/instructions/Lube_Die_Instructions.pdf

Link Posted: 11/24/2014 8:34:21 PM EDT
[#2]
I have tried the RCBS lube dies, and they wound up being less effective than I liked.  I spray lube on cases in a gallon zipper bag and shake 'em around, then pour them out into a tray to dry.  Once dry, the cases are a breeze to handle and they size nicely.

You mention cutting off the decapping pin from your sizing die's stem.  Why not just unscrew the collet and take out the pin?  RCBS's pins are replaceable, so that means they're removable, and you won't have issues with steel burs scratching up your cases.
Link Posted: 11/24/2014 10:27:14 PM EDT
[#3]
Lube die #1 is the one you want.  I have used the RCBS lube with success. The dies work o.k. but can be a little messy.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 7:54:35 AM EDT
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Lube die #1 is the one you want.  I have used the RCBS lube with success. The dies work o.k. but can be a little messy.
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I was waiting for someone to say it.

I like the concept of using the lube die, but in practice, it seems to me it would be sloppier and harder to control than just a light spray onto a batch of cases. I've never had a stuck case nor a dented one, so I must have found a happy medium of application.

I've gone to using the Poor Man's Lube exclusively because of it's cost and suitability and never looked back.

As far as some lube residue in the case feeder, I don't see why that would be a problem unless the cases were over-lubed in the first place. After running through the sizing operation, just wipe down the inside surfaces with Simple Green and you should be good to go for the loading process. Any residue left in the feeder won't be enough to affect loading since all that's left should be a very slight filmy surface that wouldn't give up any noticeable amount of lube if at all.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 11:05:23 AM EDT
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I use home brew about 12% liquid lanoline and the rest 91% alcohol. It works fantastic and is cheap.

V
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 12:22:56 PM EDT
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I have tried the RCBS lube dies, and they wound up being less effective than I liked.  I spray lube on cases in a gallon zipper bag and shake 'em around, then pour them out into a tray to dry.  Once dry, the cases are a breeze to handle and they size nicely.

You mention cutting off the decapping pin from your sizing die's stem.  Why not just unscrew the collet and take out the pin?  RCBS's pins are replaceable, so that means they're removable, and you won't have issues with steel burs scratching up your cases.
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I still need an internal sizer.  Id just take the tip off that is used for decapping, and leave the expander.  Should have been more clear I guess

I just dont want to mess with decapping and resizing on 1 die to be honest.  The Lee decapper I have has over 5k pieces of brass on its first pin, and I have 4 extra in my tool box that I will probably never use.

I think Ill revisit using the box and rolling the brass a little while spraying lightly.  May also try a coffee can as well.  Spray lightly, cover, roll across bench to distribute.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 12:38:00 PM EDT
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I think Ill revisit using the box and rolling the brass a little while spraying lightly.  May also try a coffee can as well.  Spray lightly, cover, roll across bench to distribute.
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I just do about 20-30 at a time and lay them flat on a paper towel sheet. A quick couple of shots, roll em let em sit about 30 seconds then resize.

V
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 2:41:08 PM EDT
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Why make it so hard, throw 100 + cases in a zip lock, spray with RCBS spray lube, roll bag around, with that many cases its best to spray and roll again, dump cases into tray and go to town. Decap and size in station one. Tumble cases then when you reload put the Lee universal die in station one just to make sure there is no media left in the flash hole. I tried the lube die and found there was a very short window were the lube was perfect, after filling it lubed way to much for the first 20 to 30 cases and not enough for the last 20 or so cases plus it has a tendency to leak all over the press if you forget to stuff a case in it.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 2:54:21 PM EDT
[#9]
Why make it so hard, throw 100 + cases in a zip lock, spray with RCBS spray lube, roll bag around, with that many cases its best to spray and roll again, dump cases into tray and go to town. Decap and size in station one. Tumble cases then when you reload put the Lee universal die in station one just to make sure there is no media left in the flash hole. I tried the lube die and found there was a very short window were the lube was perfect, after filling it lubed way to much for the first 20 to 30 cases and not enough for the last 20 or so cases plus it has a tendency to leak all over the press if you forget to stuff a case in it.
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