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Posted: 9/8/2013 3:48:42 PM EDT
Hey guys I'm curious on the average plinking/paper shooting bullet prices before the 2012 panic. I just turned 21 and purchased an M&P40, and 3 ar15's lowers (two for 5.56 and one for 300 blk) Of course I cant expect to shoot paying .30 cents  a round for .40S&W and .40 a round for 5.56 and $1 a round for 300 blk so I want to purchase a reloading kit in the very near future. I'm confident that bullets will return to the pre-panic prices due to our resilient market  (despite some of your opinions) so this can be used to see around about what prices could be in the future.




My question is, what were the prices of bulk (1k+) reloading bullets PRE-PANIC, and now?

9mm
Before:__$0.076/rd___Now:__________

.40:
Before:__________Now:__________

.45:
Before:__________Now:__________



.223/5.56
Before:__$0.08/rd____Now:__$0.10/rd____

7.62/300blk
Before:__________Now:__________


Thanks guys, hopefully this will not only help me, but help others who may be curious.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 3:56:21 PM EDT
There are too many variables to be able to answer your question simply.

Beginning with 9mm, for example: 85, 100, 115, 124, or 147 grain? FMJ or JHP? Plated, Jacketed or Lead? Manufacture? Factory seconds?
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And that's why I mentioned that it would be for just plinking and shooting paper. So you dont exactly need hollow points for that do you. Manufacture doesn't matter, obviously you wouldn't throw out the prices of hornadys top of the line bullet in this thread as I'm looking for the cheapest bullet to plink/shoot paper with.

just like if someone were to ask me right now: "About how much is 5.56 ammo going for right now?" I would respond with "around 40-45 cents a round", not "well it depends on the weight, the brand, the grain .. there is no definite answer"
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 4:23:54 PM EDT
I used to buy 55 grain FMJ's for $27/1000 in the 90's.  

Going price pre Sandy hook panic was around $80/1000 for .224 55gr FMJ's.  

I don't really pay attention to pistol bullets because I'm a bullet caster.  

Link Posted: 9/8/2013 4:28:19 PM EDT
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And that's why I mentioned that it would be for just plinking and shooting paper. So you dont exactly need hollow points for that do you. Manufacture doesn't matter, obviously you wouldn't throw out the prices of hornadys top of the line bullet in this thread as I'm looking for the cheapest bullet to plink/shoot paper with.

just like if someone were to ask me right now: "About how much is 5.56 ammo going for right now?" I would respond with "around 40-45 cents a round", not "well it depends on the weight, the brand, the grain .. there is no definite answer"
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There are too many variables to be able to answer your question simply.

Beginning with 9mm, for example: 85, 100, 115, 124, or 147 grain? FMJ or JHP? Plated, Jacketed or Lead? Manufacture? Factory seconds?


And that's why I mentioned that it would be for just plinking and shooting paper. So you dont exactly need hollow points for that do you. Manufacture doesn't matter, obviously you wouldn't throw out the prices of hornadys top of the line bullet in this thread as I'm looking for the cheapest bullet to plink/shoot paper with.

just like if someone were to ask me right now: "About how much is 5.56 ammo going for right now?" I would respond with "around 40-45 cents a round", not "well it depends on the weight, the brand, the grain .. there is no definite answer"

Lots of guys I shoot with run hollow points to punch paper and knock steel.
Grain weight does matter, because a 115gr bullet is cheaper than a 124gr bullet.  
If you are talking loaded factory ammo, then no, it would not matter.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 4:30:17 PM EDT
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I used to buy 55 grain FMJ's for $27/1000 in the 90's.  

Going price pre Sandy hook panic was around $80/1000 for .224 55gr FMJ's.  

I don't really pay attention to pistol bullets because I'm a bullet caster.  

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They are cheaper some places now. PV has hday fmj 55's for $50 per k.
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I used to buy 55 grain FMJ's for $27/1000 in the 90's.  

Going price pre Sandy hook panic was around $80/1000 for .224 55gr FMJ's.  

I don't really pay attention to pistol bullets because I'm a bullet caster.  


They are cheaper some places now. PV has hday fmj 55's for $50 per k.


I'm showing PV has those bullets 50 for 500.     Do you have a link showing hornady FMJ's for a nickle each?  
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I used to buy 55 grain FMJ's for $27/1000 in the 90's.  

Going price pre Sandy hook panic was around $80/1000 for .224 55gr FMJ's.  

I don't really pay attention to pistol bullets because I'm a bullet caster.  


They are cheaper some places now. PV has hday fmj 55's for $50 per k.


I just looked its $50 for 500
.05 would be great
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 4:36:37 PM EDT
For the pistol rounds get a $25 Lee mold and make as many as you want.
even if you have to pay for the lead its still a lot cheaper than buying

9mm mold

40 S&W
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 4:52:40 PM EDT
Thanks for the replies guys! keep it up!


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For the pistol rounds get a $25 Lee mold and make as many as you want.
even if you have to pay for the lead its still a lot cheaper than buying

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40 S&W
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Where would you buy the lead? I've only heard of people using tire wheel weights for it, and I'm not too much into asking for trash :/  But I'm sure you can buy the lead somewhere
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I just looked its $50 for 500
.05 would be great
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I used to buy 55 grain FMJ's for $27/1000 in the 90's.  

Going price pre Sandy hook panic was around $80/1000 for .224 55gr FMJ's.  

I don't really pay attention to pistol bullets because I'm a bullet caster.  


They are cheaper some places now. PV has hday fmj 55's for $50 per k.


I just looked its $50 for 500
.05 would be great

Phone fail. Was supposed to be per 500. My brain forgot to work.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 5:17:16 PM EDT
A better comparison would be pre election of 08 and today.
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well if you happen to know those prices, feel free to throw them out there :p I juts would prefer it to be in the past 5  years (08 barely makes it)
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 5:53:28 PM EDT
Looking back at my order from Precision Delta on 8/4/11 my 9mm were $76 for 115gr FMJ's and $84 for 124gr JHP's.  I started reloading in 2010 with some initial orders from Midway and local stuff before buying in bulk from PD and other places.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 5:54:17 PM EDT
the price change is not so much manufacturing cost going up...it has some but not much.  The problem is the a- holes gouging because they can.  People are/were in a panic for supplies and guns...get and buy all you can right now.  Supply and Demand.  Ya know the Yuppie with 5 AR safe queens with 40 loaded mags and 10k rounds for rifles that will never go boom.  Then factor in all the doomsday preppers and god forbid the Zombies taking over.

Reloading is not for cost savings, it's for accuracy, convinence and to complete the hobby.  I just dusted off my presses that have been stored for 18yrs and I can't even buy primers or powder right now.  The media and Govt has mind effed this country.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:25:55 PM EDT
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Looking back at my order from Precision Delta on 8/4/11 my 9mm were $76 for 115gr FMJ's and $84 for 124gr JHP's.  I started reloading in 2010 with some initial orders from Midway and local stuff before buying in bulk from PD and other places.
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Thanks, I updated the price. What are some other places that had decent deals on bullets? I only know of midway
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:31:29 PM EDT
I can still load a 1000 223 for 57 dollars.... Once the cheap components run out it will be over $200....


Why didn't I buy more bullets when they where $26 a K....?????
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:56:25 PM EDT
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Thanks for the replies guys! keep it up!




Where would you buy the lead? I've only heard of people using tire wheel weights for it, and I'm not too much into asking for trash :/  But I'm sure you can buy the lead somewhere
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For the pistol rounds get a $25 Lee mold and make as many as you want.
even if you have to pay for the lead its still a lot cheaper than buying

9mm mold

40 S&W


Where would you buy the lead? I've only heard of people using tire wheel weights for it, and I'm not too much into asking for trash :/  But I'm sure you can buy the lead somewhere


some scrap yards sell it.
If not look in the EE, Craigslist, ebay, amazon, local gun store that sells lead shot.  
Its not that hard to find. Ask around, once people know your looking for it i have had people give me a whole bunch of it.
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 2:28:12 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 3:44:10 AM EDT
If you have you '03, or can get dealer pricing, Midway still has 1k Hornady 55gr for $89.
But you have to get them fast and there is a 1 box limit.
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 4:05:13 AM EDT
Keep the answers coming guys, be sure to remember its more then just 5.56 were talking about!!


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I can still load a 1000 223 for 57 dollars.... Once the cheap components run out it will be over $200....


Why didn't I buy more bullets when they where $26 a K....?????
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How can you still load 1k rounds for only 57?

and $26/k? When/where was this?
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 4:57:49 AM EDT
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Keep the answers coming guys, be sure to remember its more then just 5.56 were talking about!!



How can you still load 1k rounds for only 57? I'm sure hes saying thats what he has into the supplies right now. Bought in the past at a cheaper rate and stocked up.

and $26/k? When/where was this?And again, the past is in the past.
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I can still load a 1000 223 for 57 dollars.... Once the cheap components run out it will be over $200....


Why didn't I buy more bullets when they where $26 a K....?????

How can you still load 1k rounds for only 57? I'm sure hes saying thats what he has into the supplies right now. Bought in the past at a cheaper rate and stocked up.

and $26/k? When/where was this?And again, the past is in the past.

Link Posted: 9/9/2013 5:10:04 AM EDT
The reputable places haven't changed their prices (much) as a result of the panic. They are just having trouble getting the stuff in, like the rest of us.

When the less reputable places started gouging people, I deleted their websites. Even when this panic is over I won't be shopping with them anymore.


I would like to see "someone" start a list of the websites that were openly gouging people during the panic.
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 5:21:02 AM EDT
In 2009, I bought 3500 55gr FMJ's from Montana Gold for $249 shipped.  Right now, they are $350 shipped for 3500.  

Just give it some time. Prices will fall.  My local Dunham's has thousands of rounds of 223 and 7.62x39.  My local Walmart had Fed 5.56 and Tula 7.62 last night for the first time since the panic started.  That is a very good sign that manufacturers are catching up.
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 5:41:49 AM EDT
I can typically find components 5%-10% over what I was paying this time last year.  I'd bet money this will be the new norm, even when stock levels return to normal.
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 2:09:32 PM EDT
From my orders just before/during early Obama.


9/30/2008  A2230-8 Accurate Powder 2230 8lb $103.00....now $145but out of stock
---------------Accurate Powder # 7 8lb $100 ........................    now  $138 but out of stock
---------------They don't list them anymore so I don't know the current price, but here is what I paid
---------------Price/1k when buy 5k of each at a time(wolf primers)
QQSRM KVB-5.56M SMALL RIFLE MAGNUM PRIMERS (For use in 5.56 loads)$17/1000
QQQLP KVB-45 LARGE PISTOL PRIMERS $16.00/1000  
QQQSP KVB-9 SMALL PISTOL PRIMERS $15.50 / 1000  


And of course the Hazmat was only $20

10/29/2008 .40 CAL 170GR TRUN. SEMI WADCUTTER # 043 CAST BULLET $48.00 PER 1000 .......................now $61/1000 but out of stock

11/18/2008 H2267FB HORNADY BP 22 CAL 55GR FMJBT W/C BULLETS $419.00/6000 FREE S/H USPS........now $539/6k but out of stock

1/02/2009 LCM193B Bulk Lake City M193 55gr FMJBT Projectiles $365.00/6000 Prepaid USPS.......................now $492/6k but out of stock
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 4:32:37 PM EDT
I remember in 2010 I paid $73/1000 for 115gr FMJ 9mm, loaded up for 10.5 cents a round.  Same bullets now are $10 more.

230gr lead round nose for 45 was $98/1000, now about $10-15 more.

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Link Posted: 9/9/2013 5:25:57 PM EDT
here is a good one for ya.  I recently pulled out a 30x50x30  aluminum waterproof container that held all our reload equipment from the early 90's.  There was 2- 1# Bullseye containers for 9$ and 1 5# container for 20$.   Whats a 5# container of anything cost now?  

I think I may try a load with the old powder just to see, cause I can't find shit for new powder right now.
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 8:36:53 PM EDT
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The reputable places haven't changed their prices (much) as a result of the panic. They are just having trouble getting the stuff in, like the rest of us.

When the less reputable places started gouging people, I deleted their websites. Even when this panic is over I won't be shopping with them anymore.


I would like to see "someone" start a list of the websites that were openly gouging people during the panic.
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I'm surprised no one has already.  
Bruno's, anyone?

Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:10:22 AM EDT
In August of 12 I placed several orders.  From Hi-Tech I got 3000 62gn pulls for $280 (iirc), 8lbs of pulldown WC 846 for $94, and from Wideners I bought Wolf SRM primers for $15.50/k.  If my fuzzy, 6am math is correct, that is (9+1.5+4) right around $150/k for 62gn plinking rounds.  Shoulda bought more powder...damnit.  Taking it back a bit further, to the spring of 04, 115gn FMJ pulls from GIBrass where $40/k, primers where $.99/c IN THE STORE, and AA#2 was in the $12/lb range.  My 9mm practice rounds where around $.06/each.  Commercial cast projectiles where even cheaper and I shot the shit out of those.

The moral of the story is, when you find a good deal, stock up.  So long as it is stored properly, bullets, powder, and even primers will last a long time.  Reloaded rounds will last even longer.

Hope this helps.

ka
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:50:02 AM EDT

I'll post some of my older orders when i find the receipts.



06/2012





































































































Quantity Item Description Price Each Total Cost
5 TULLR * TUL LARGE RIFLE PRIMERS (KVB7) (1000) 25.00 125.00
5 TULSPM * TUL SMALL PISTOL MAGNUM PRIMERS (KVB9M) (1000) 20.00 100.00
2 TULSRM * TUL SMALL RIFLE MAGNUM PRIMERS (KVB556M) (1000) 21.00 42.00
2 ACC1680-01 * ACCURATE 1680 - 1 LB. 18.10 36.20
1 HODLIL-01 * HODGDON LILGUN - 1 LB. 17.70 17.70
1 HODH4895-01 * HODGDON H4895 - 1 LB. 20.55 20.55
1 ACC2015-01 * ACCURATE XMR-2015 - 1 LB. 20.25 20.25
1 HODCFE223-01 * HODGDON COPPER FOULING ERASER CFE223 - 1 LB. 18.30 18.30
2 HODVARG-01 * HODGDON VARGET - 1LB. 20.55 41.10
1 IMR3031-01 * IMR 3031 - 1 LB. 19.95 19.95
1 IMR8208-01 * IMR 8208 XBR - 1 LB. 19.95 19.95
1 IMRTB-01 * IMR TRAIL BOSS 9 OZ 11.65 11.65

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