Is $1000.00 a good price, new in the box, '06 Garand


Travis

Well..I saw new ones at the last gunshow for $850....

For $1000..you can get 2 woodless Danes from the CMP and still have money left over for ammo, wood and the metal needed to round out the stocks..

I understand the new replica Springfield Garands come with cast receivers. I wouldn't pay that kind of money for an M1 with a cast receiver no matter how pretty it looked.

There are still plenty of genuine USGI Garands to be had for less money, whether from the CMP or your local sale paper.

YMMV

With all due respect, don't go for a Springfield Armory, Inc. M1.  As someone said, for the money, you can get more through the CMP.  It may seem daunting to buy through them, but its actually very easy and very rewarding.  Bottom line, you get the real deal, not some '80s, '90s, or 21st century copy ay alot less money.

Off my soapbox though:  From what I've seen, $1000 is a good price for them.

A cast reciever is NO indication of poor quality. M1-A's have always been cast, as well as most Ruger guns, FN even resorted to cast recievers in the final years of their production of FAL's. Is milled and forged better? Yes...but a properly made cast reciever is perfectly servicable.

I think thats what the problem is Gew. Getting a milled reciever grants you a better chance of getting a great M1; where cast have sometimes been out of spec on the springfield, lithgow etc new manufacture cast reciever.

Quoted: I think thats what the problem is Gew. Getting a milled reciever grants you a better chance of getting a great M1; where cast have sometimes been out of spec on the springfield, lithgow etc new manufacture cast reciever.

this is correct.  it's a matter of volume.  Without hard numbers in front of me, I would venture to say that SAi makes and sells more M1A's than every other repro M14 combined.  They produce in volume, and sell at a price point that is attainable by most people.

I have never, ever, once heard of a cast receiver from SAi failing, not once.  I have heard of issues with them being out of spec out of the box, but that's what SAi's lifetime warranty is for.  If it's not right, they'll make it right.  I'd venture to say that if you looked hard enough you would find issues with LRB, Fulton, Armscorp, Poly, Norinco, and any other M14 repro out there.  Even Uncle Sam got some lemons I'm sure.  If you play the percentage game, I'd bet they're all comparable to SAi, it's just the matter that the majority of people who own M14 repros own a SAi, myself included.  That means that when one out of a thouand is bad, odds are that it's an SAi.  

As an owner of a Springfield Armory M1 Garand,
Do not purchase one. Buy a CMP.

Thanks for all the info guys, I will look into a CMP.


Travis

I haven't really paid attention to the going price. That sounds reasonable I think.
I own a Springfield M1 and am very happy with it. It is a great shooter. I got a great deal on it. I also own two CMP M1s (As well as another half dozen different CMP rifles).

What M1 you buy depends in part on what you are looking for. If you want an M1 that has been rebuilt and appears new, you arn't going to get that from CMP. And if you send a CMP rifle away to have the metal refinished and the wood replaced it will cost you as much or more than the Springfield Armory rifle.  If you want one that has significant wear on the metal finish, the stock, and on the internal parts,then go CMP. If you want a lifetime warranty, you ain't going to get that from CMP. CMP has even been known to sell rifles that don't function correctly. That being said, in every case I have heard about, CMP made the situation right.

Think about what you want. Weigh your options. Buy what is right for you. These blanket statements about buying from the CMP without even discussing the pros and cons or anything else certainly don't influence me.

Quoted: Think about what you want. Weigh your options. Buy what is right for you. These blanket statements about buying from the CMP without even discussing the pros and cons or anything else certainly don't influence me.

Great advise 444

Quoted: I have never, ever, once heard of a cast receiver from SAi failing, not once.  I have heard of issues with them being out of spec out of the box, but that's what SAi's lifetime warranty is for.  If it's not right, they'll make it right.

Late '70's/early '80's SA had a problem with soft receivers,, excessive HS after so many rds, elevation knob wearing the serrations smooth. Had mine fail at Camp Perry in '84,, rear sight jumped up and down on every shot,, thought I was losing it.
Then we all know about the soft bolts they had.
'Borg

Even Uncle Sam got some lemons I'm sure.[/quote}

The lemons never made it out the door... that is the best thing about a Govt. arsenal.... if the receiver was out of spec during the inspection process duing machining it was scrapped.. even if the whole rifle didn't pass inspection, it never left the door until it passed.. not so with commercial rifles... Commercial companies never do a proof firing.. they just run a couple of regular rounds through the rifle and ship it out....sure a lifetime warranty is great.. but who wants to keep sending a rilfe back when it should have been right the first time... especially if you might have to depend on it to put meat on the table or to save your life?

Might I remind you about the "low number" '03 recievers that were improperly heat treated, and the early Garand recievers that were out of spec through short cutting and amounted to the infamous "7th round stoppage".

Quoted: Quoted: Think about what you want. Weigh your options. Buy what is right for you. These blanket statements about buying from the CMP without even discussing the pros and cons or anything else certainly don't influence me. Great advise 444

I had a chance at a gunshow to buy a like new current Springfield M1 and passed on it for a real Springfield and I cannot be happier...

Unless you are deadset on a new M1 from SAI, you can for less, buy a CMP or even one at a gunshow.

Hey, it's your money, buy what makes you happy. For me it is a WWII M1..

Quoted: I haven't really paid attention to the going price. That sounds reasonable I think. I own a Springfield M1 and am very happy with it. It is a great shooter. I got a great deal on it. I also own two CMP M1s (As well as another half dozen different CMP rifles). What M1 you buy depends in part on what you are looking for. If you want an M1 that has been rebuilt and appears new, you arn't going to get that from CMP. And if you send a CMP rifle away to have the metal refinished and the wood replaced it will cost you as much or more than the Springfield Armory rifle.  If you want one that has significant wear on the metal finish, the stock, and on the internal parts,then go CMP. If you want a lifetime warranty, you ain't going to get that from CMP. CMP has even been known to sell rifles that don't function correctly. That being said, in every case I have heard about, CMP made the situation right. Think about what you want. Weigh your options. Buy what is right for you. These blanket statements about buying from the CMP without even discussing the pros and cons or anything else certainly don't influence me.

Or you could spend $900 on a Correct Grade and have a rifle that  doesn't  have all the significant wear, etc and still have a piece of history as well as a forged reciever.

Pros and cons, huh.  Okay, about $400 to $900 (depending on grade, not counting Collector Grade because no one would shoot them) for a piece of history, one that has actually been used by a GI somewhere and you can pretty much count on all the bugs having been worked out.  I just took my next to latest Garand (a woodless Dane) with a stock set obtained locally (for a total of about $425)  to the range today. It gauged like a Service Grade and I was bouncing a bottle at 100 yards with the sights set as they came from CMP.  I was a little worried about the bore since I saw some what appeared to be rust or pitting, but was told to put some copper solvent in it and let it sit.  I did that and shot it today.  Checked the bore afterwards and the crap was gone.  The bore was nice and clean with crisp rifling and this $425 rifle with a history is a damn good shooter .  All my GI Garands have been great.

So, someone can spend about 2.5 times as much and have a cast reciever copy or get the CMP and use the extra money for CMP ammo.  It is foolish to spend that much more for something that is not as good and has no history.  

I don't care if you consider it a blanket statement or whether or not it influences you.  Actually, I hope you don't buy from CMP, leaves more for me.

" I hope you don't buy from CMP, leaves more for me."

Obviously, you don't read before you post. I own TWO CMP M1 Rifles and have shot them extensively. My H&R Greek has had over 1000 rounds run through it since I bought it. In addition I have two 1903s, one 1903A3, an H&R M44, and a Remington 541X all of which came from the CMP. I have also been to the CMP North store twice. I am quite familiar with the CMP and their products.

One thing you might want to consider is that different people have different wants and needs. Just because something doesn't appeal to you doesn't mean that everyone else feels the same way. The things that seem important to you might not mean a thing to anyone else. This thread, like most topics has more than one side to it. I am presenting one side, you are presenting a different side. I don't see how that makes you right and me wrong. I guess I never understood the need to defend my own purchases with this confrontational attitude.

Ok, fellas, lets keep calm.  I really don't like involving myself in the Springfield Armory, Inc. debates.

CMP doesn't sell junk if you stick to the higher grades (Field Grade from what I've seen is even "ok" to most people; they say "fair to good" quality on their website).  Then again, remember its a 50-60 yr. old rifle, so it won't look as pretty as a new Springfield but it'll have some character.  They all headspace fine and are checked out by professionals prior to shipment.  

But, if you'd like a brand-spankin' new M1, the Springfield is for you.  Depends on what you're after.  I wanted an M1, period.  After examining the qualities of CMP's offerings (originality, lower price almost by half) vs. what a new Springfield offered (newness, warranty), I went for the CMP's because of the abundance of parts on the market and the simplicity of the rifle to do what work was needed on my own.

Bottom line:  you won't lose either way.