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Posted: 8/1/2017 8:43:20 AM EDT
This thread is for updates and chatter that is not allowed in the other post 41f thread.

Update. Looks like they are into Sept filings now. Lets hope times start to speed up for everyone!

Paper Form 1, Individual
Sent 9/12/16
CC charged 9/16/16
Received error letter 7/31/17 dated 7/24
Link Posted: 8/1/2017 9:14:24 AM EDT
[#1]
Nice! I have a Trust, Form 1 submission on 9/29 that I would like to see back ASAP.
Link Posted: 8/2/2017 9:31:10 AM EDT
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This thread is for updates and chatter that is not allowed in the other post 41f thread.

Update. Looks like they are into Sept filings now. Lets hope times start to speed up for everyone!

Paper Form 1, Individual
Sent 9/12/16
CC charged 9/16/16
Received error letter 7/31/17 dated 7/24
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just out of curiosity what was the error? I have a few form 1's sent in October
Link Posted: 8/2/2017 10:29:45 AM EDT
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Section 4h where you put what will be engraved on firearm, Name, City and State. Every other place on the application I used my full name Christopher.....in that particular section I used Chris. They told me I could only abbreviate the State in that section and that I need to use my full name. I crossed out Chris...replaced with Christopher then dated and initialed my change. Who would have thought that would be a problem? Forms are on the way back now...fingers crossed it wont be much longer once they receive.
Link Posted: 8/2/2017 1:32:02 PM EDT
[#4]
Sounds like positive news!

Paper Form 1, Trust
Sent 9/12/16
Check Cashed 9/16/16

Have not called to check status and I'm not sure I need to now.
Link Posted: 8/2/2017 4:19:32 PM EDT
[#5]
This is great news.  Fingers crossed mine comes through soon.
Link Posted: 8/2/2017 4:26:47 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/2/2017 5:27:10 PM EDT
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Good to read they seem to be moving past July 2016. Only have one in but it's from March. So it'll be a while. 
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 5:57:22 PM EDT
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My next Form 1 was cashed 10/12. I'd love to see that letter in mailbox. While I like all of my SBRs, this one has me excited (CZ Bren 805 w/ ACR stock)
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 10:42:08 PM EDT
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Yep will be interesting to see how it goes from this point. I have a Form 1 Individual SBR mailed 02/07/17 and went pending 02/15/2017. Called for the first time this week to check on it to make sure it was in the system.  Now I have to get my form 1 can paperwork off.

ETA: This will be my second SBR, and the first one took 100 days door to door back in 2008. First one was a GSG, this will be the first AR based SBR. CZ Scorpion next after the form 1 cans.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 11:41:54 PM EDT
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Are they still waiting to mail multiple forms to FFLs instead of singles?  When my can came back in the spring, it was approved almost 35 days before my FFL had the paperwork.  Included with mine was 2 other approved forms (both way less than 35 days).
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My 6/26 approved stamp came in yesterday and same thing...4 stamps.

But If i bought 4 cans you know they would have been spread out all over, and no chance of coming back at the same time.
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 10:10:59 AM EDT
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In general, do individual or trust forms come back quicker?
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 12:23:28 PM EDT
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In general, do individual or trust forms come back quicker?
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In the past from what I have read individual forms would come back faster. Not sure now that everyone needs fingerprints and photos.
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 11:48:02 PM EDT
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There's an entry on NFA tracker for a March 2017 send off being approved. That's really interesting. I looked at the date on my latest one and it was actually mid February when I sent it in. Makes me somewhat hopeful. 
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 11:49:25 PM EDT
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In the past from what I have read individual forms would come back faster. Not sure now that everyone needs fingerprints and photos.
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Not always. It would sometimes flip flop back and forth. For a while e-file trust was the way to go. 
Link Posted: 8/6/2017 12:26:09 PM EDT
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There's an entry on NFA tracker for a March 2017 send off being approved. That's really interesting. I looked at the date on my latest one and it was actually mid February when I sent it in. Makes me somewhat hopeful. 
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That is interesting. I have 3 I submitted in late November. No word yet other than card being charged a week later. I think approvals are going to fly soon. No one was buying hardly anything for 6 mos because the rush for 41F.
Link Posted: 8/6/2017 4:39:04 PM EDT
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That is interesting. I have 3 I submitted in late November. No word yet other than card being charged a week later. I think approvals are going to fly soon. No one was buying hardly anything for 6 mos because the rush for 41F.
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I'm thinking the same thing. A lot of the trust folks seem to shy away from buying now with the recent changes too. Might keep the back log from happening again. 
Link Posted: 8/6/2017 8:37:15 PM EDT
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There's an entry on NFA tracker for a March 2017 send off being approved. That's really interesting. I looked at the date on my latest one and it was actually mid February when I sent it in. Makes me somewhat hopeful. 
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Likely special circumstances.
Link Posted: 8/6/2017 9:15:08 PM EDT
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Likely special circumstances.
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Such as? 
Link Posted: 8/6/2017 11:49:36 PM EDT
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Such as? 
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Could be someone lost a form, someone who never hit submit on their eF1, or even just a bad data entry. And every now and then an ATF examiner will help someone out.

Just look at the pinned post 41F thread to see how well people can read instructions.
Link Posted: 8/7/2017 4:57:36 AM EDT
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Paper Form 1 individual mailed last August 2016.  Cash checked within a week (pretty standard).  I've been overseas and have asked my wife to see if anything arrived in the mail.  It's either in a pile of mail in the kitchen or should be arriving any day....
Link Posted: 8/7/2017 12:32:49 PM EDT
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I would have expected more people to start posting approvals lately, instead it seems everything has slowed to a crawl. I'm on numerous NFA groups on FB and not many people are posting approvals anymore. I wonder if they reassigned people after the glut or just sent everyone on vacation.
Link Posted: 8/7/2017 1:14:23 PM EDT
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Got a form 4 trust pending from 1/4/17

and I sent off a form 1 trust sbr 7/6/17

i don't even call the atf anymore, they will come when they come
Link Posted: 8/7/2017 10:06:13 PM EDT
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Could be someone lost a form, someone who never hit submit on their eF1, or even just a bad data entry. And every now and then an ATF examiner will help someone out.

Just look at the pinned post 41F thread to see how well people can read instructions.
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Well that's a good point on the instructions. 

The chart it showed up on goes by date Check Cashed. So it was sent in sometime in March. Then again, could be someone trolling. It's all on the honor system. 
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 1:43:18 AM EDT
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I would have expected more people to start posting approvals lately, instead it seems everything has slowed to a crawl. I'm on numerous NFA groups on FB and not many people are posting approvals anymore. I wonder if they reassigned people after the glut or just sent everyone on vacation.
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Or a lot of people don't bother contributing data once they've got what they want.

I know since NFA Tracker changed their site I have a hell of a time trying to log in.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 2:06:36 AM EDT
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Not always. It would sometimes flip flop back and forth. For a while e-file trust was the way to go. 
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^this

the only reason i set up a trust.  cleo sign off at time wasn't an issue.  but a 5 month return on form 1 sbr in 2015 was nice
Link Posted: 8/10/2017 2:54:30 PM EDT
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Interesting trend spotted on NFA tracker.

Downward plunging line is mostly paper individual forms 1 and 4.

Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 8/11/2017 12:10:55 PM EDT
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Interesting trend spotted on NFA tracker.

Downward plunging line is mostly paper individual forms 1 and 2.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/6794/Screen_Shot_2017-08-10_at_8-276718.JPG
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That looks promising
Link Posted: 8/11/2017 2:01:41 PM EDT
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That looks promising
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It does until you remove the individuals and only look at trusts :/
Link Posted: 8/16/2017 2:59:41 PM EDT
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Sounds like positive news!

Paper Form 1, Trust
Sent 9/12/16
Check Cashed 9/16/16

Have not called to check status and I'm not sure I need to now.
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As a follow up...  Curiosity won out and I called to check status...

I talked to a nice woman named Laura (very cheerful!)   She told me my F1 was currently pending...  (No surprise there)
She then added the examiners are currently working on August but she had seen a few September submissions...

I may or may not hit that 1 year mark...  

This intel is current as of 1400hrs 16AUG2017.
Link Posted: 8/16/2017 3:06:35 PM EDT
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As a follow up...  Curiosity won out and I called to check status...

I talked to a nice woman named Laura (very cheerful!)   She told me my F1 was currently pending...  (No surprise there)
She then added the examiners are currently working on August but she had seen a few September submissions...

I may or may not hit that 1 year mark...  

This intel is current as of 1400hrs 16AUG2017.
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Individuals from October and November are coming back now.
Link Posted: 8/16/2017 3:16:18 PM EDT
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Individuals from October and November are coming back now.
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Damn...  Sounds like using a trust really slowed the process down post 41F.  Besides the "rush" I mean...
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 8:35:14 AM EDT
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Just got off the phone with ATF.  

My individual form 4 was approved Aug 15.  Check cashed 11-4-16.
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 11:24:33 AM EDT
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Damn...  Sounds like using a trust really slowed the process down post 41F.  Besides the "rush" I mean...
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I think it's just they are focusing on Form 4s right now

I submitted a post 41f form 1 trust the first week in September and a post 41f form 4 trust in August. The form 4, which was submitted a month later, came back this week while I'm still waiting on the Form 1.
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 12:06:50 PM EDT
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I think it's just they are focusing on Form 4s right now

I submitted a post 41f form 1 trust the first week in September and a post 41f form 4 trust in August. The form 4, which was submitted a month later, came back this week while I'm still waiting on the Form 1.
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We'll see.  I submitted a form 1 just over a month after the form 4 I just got back.  I'm betting I'll see it in a month or less.
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 9:45:54 PM EDT
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I had a form 1 sent in October come back approved today.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:49:12 PM EDT
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I had a form 1 sent in October come back approved today.
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I might see Feb 2017 one not too much longer then. 
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 10:26:16 PM EDT
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I might see Feb 2017 one not too much longer then. 
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This makes me happy. Guess I need to get the form 1 can paperwork sent off on monday.
Link Posted: 8/19/2017 2:20:40 PM EDT
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My individual form1, SBR, mailed 09/30/2016 came back for correction today.

Didn't like that I abbreviated my full name to my initials and last name.

So it would of been a approval if they weren't so picky. I fixed the error and sent it right back out today.

Sad think is that I have another individual form1, SBR, pending from 10-07-2016 with the same problem. So I have that to look forward to.
Link Posted: 8/20/2017 11:20:32 AM EDT
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I had a form 1 sent in October come back approved today.
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Trust or individual?

I have a Sept. Form 1 trust filing still pending.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:04:28 AM EDT
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Pretty solid trend at this point.  Me gusta.

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Link Posted: 8/21/2017 7:02:47 PM EDT
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Called today for my submission was pending, got home and there it is in the mail  


Form 1 M85 pap SBR
Sent: 10/25/16
CC charged: 10/31/16
Approved: 8/14/17
Received: 8/21/17
Examiner: Sarah N. Dunlop?
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 7:31:45 PM EDT
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Called today for my submission was pending, got home and there it is in the mail  


Form 1 M85 pap SBR
Sent: 10/25/16
CC charged: 10/31/16
Approved: 8/14/17
Received: 8/21/17
Examiner: Sarah N. Dunlop?
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Individual I assume?
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 8:48:20 PM EDT
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Individual I assume?
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Yes individual
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:05:12 AM EDT
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My wife said she hasn't seen anything in the mail (I'm overseas).  Form 1 individual submitted mid August 2016.  

How can I get in touch with them for a status update?  Any help would be appreciated.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 8:46:11 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/23/2017 9:51:45 AM EDT
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Phone call is really the only option.
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Just called...recording says to have your Control or Serial # ready.  I didn't e-file and I don't know my lower receiver's SN off the top of my head.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:05:56 AM EDT
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Anyone know WTH is going on with Form 1 trusts? According to NFA tracker one hasn't been approved since 8/2/2017, I haven't seen people posting approvals for them in forums or online and I had a form 4 trust I submitted a month after the Form 1 I'm waiting for come back last week. I called the ATF but they couldn't give me an explanation.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/6794/Screen_Shot_2017-08-21_at_1-286010.JPG

The orange triangles are Form 1 trusts
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:07:50 AM EDT
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Dupe
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 1:24:59 PM EDT
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My January 25 2017 pending sbr and sbs just got approval on August 19 2017. Waiting on the stamps in the mail

Individual form 1s for both.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 5:54:20 PM EDT
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