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Posted: 3/16/2002 12:38:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/16/2002 2:49:57 PM EDT by M4Madness]
I stopped in a little gun store today just to browse around. There on the rack sat a Bushmaster Assault Rifle. I do not mean an AR-15, I mean one of the early rifles that Bushmaster made. I assume that it was a pre-ban, as it had a flash suppressor and a working folding stock. The serial number was F010XX. It had a wooden forearm. Now for my questions:

1. Were all of these rifles pre-ban? If not, does the serial number indicate a pre-ban? I wouldn't want to buy a post-ban version that has been modified to illegal pre-ban configuration.

2. Is a synthetic forearm available for it? I am not a big fan of wood furniture.

3. The asking price is $575. What would be a fair price for one in good condition?

Thanks for any help that anyone can offer.
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 12:52:00 PM EDT
I'm interested, but I have no idea what gun that is. Keep us posted...
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 1:00:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/16/2002 2:50:50 PM EDT by M4Madness]
I have been unable to locate a photo of one. My search on GunsAmerica only brought up AR-15's, M17's, and one ARM Rifle. I have seen these rifles before in photos, but never in person.
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 1:21:39 PM EDT
Look here under Bushmaster and see if you can find it:

www.securityarms.com/20010315/b.htm
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 1:32:11 PM EDT
BushMaster made an early AW that was based on the same action as their pistol but was not a bullpup design. If I remember it had a wood foreend that was painted black and could be had with an aluminium stock that folded to the right.
Used AR mags and pistol grip.
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 1:56:15 PM EDT
At Securityarms.com there is a listing for a "Bushmaster assault rifle" but the picture doesn't work. I'm still searching...
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 1:56:44 PM EDT
Drfcolt, on the link you provided I found it listed as "Bushmaster Assault Rifle", but there was no photo available.

Wlynn5, yes, it has a wooden forearm, a side-folding aluminum stock, and accepts AR-15 mags.
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 1:58:58 PM EDT
Condition is everything, but I have never seen one under $800.
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 2:02:57 PM EDT
Ahhh, the origional Bushmaster assault rifle. IIRC it was a hybryd AR-15/AK ala the Daewoo K-1. It takes AR magazines and pistol grips. Any rifle with a functioning folder and flash hider for $575 is a bargin, elspecially if it's frin such a reliable manufactorer and you can still get parts for it (which you can from bushmaster)
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 2:18:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/16/2002 2:20:48 PM EDT by Noname]
caag.state.ca.us/firearms/forms/pdf/awguide.pdf

Go to page 11 for pic and page 40 for pistol...
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 2:32:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Noname:
caag.state.ca.us/firearms/forms/pdf/awguide.pdf

Go to page 11 for pic and page 40 for pistol...



Page 21...
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 2:35:53 PM EDT
It looks like the one in the photo, only it has a side-folding stock instead of the fixed wooden one. Condition is pretty good. It has a few scratches on the receiver, but if worse came to worse it could be refinished. I just don't know if I can learn to love that wooden forearm. I may have to buy it Monday...
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 3:09:28 PM EDT
PS---I'm using the actual booklet marked page...
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 3:11:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/16/2002 3:13:10 PM EDT by wlynn5]
If you look at the gas tube and gas block and they look like their welded up that would be a positive ID.
These rifles had a rep. for being crude. This was before AKs where well known of course.
Almost any semi-auto with a folding stock is worth 575.00 in good condition nowadays.
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 4:01:25 PM EDT
There was a discussion of this rifle on this board within the past couple of weeks, do a search and you'll probably find it.

Not the best rifle in the world, but the price on your example is a good deal for one in good condition. Will your shop take it back if it doesn't work?
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 4:31:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Chairborne_Ranger:
There was a discussion of this rifle on this board within the past couple of weeks, do a search and you'll probably find it.



Is this it?

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=94383
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 4:42:40 PM EDT
Dat's it.
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 4:49:14 PM EDT
I have a friend who has one and it is a total piece of crap. I wouldn't trade a Daisy Red Rider for it.
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 6:50:34 PM EDT
i have heard about quality control problems in the early bushmasters, one of the reasons they didnt take off, they just wernt as good as the AR. but, i think if it works, thats a helluva deal.
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 7:00:19 PM EDT
Wow that's ugly! Buy a REAL rifle with your money like a Rem 700, not a POS like that thing, whether it has evil features or not, its still just plain UGLY!
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 7:14:04 PM EDT
Yeah, I'll agree that it is one ugly b******, but it is something that you don't see everyday. It appears to be a very crude design. The one I saw looks a little better with the sidefolder and all, but "you can't polish a turd". If I ever bought it, it would be as an investment.
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 10:06:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By M4Madness:
Yeah, I'll agree that it is one ugly b******, but it is something that you don't see everyday. It appears to be a very crude design. The one I saw looks a little better with the sidefolder and all, but "you can't polish a turd". If I ever bought it, it would be as an investment.



Makes sense, although there are better investments for the buck IMO. How about a Maadi Ak? Maybe half an M1A? How about listing it on some boards, and selling it as a quick turnaround kind of thing? Just please...don't keep that ugly thing....DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN!
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