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Posted: 10/25/2013 11:48:21 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/25/2013 11:53:00 AM EST by Swat_dude]
I'm an ideas guy but I don't have the drive to go produce something for myself so I figured I would throw this out there. The other day while was schlepping my plate carrier with front and back ceramic plates and full loadout with 6 loaded mags, my traps were aching like mad from the shoulder straps weighing down on me. The thought came to me that when I'm backpacking, even with a 40 lb. pack my shoulders never hurt, because much of the weight of my pack is being carried by the waist belt.

Since 1 lb carbon nano tube Level IV plates are a long ways off, why doesn't someone come up with a plate carrier that carries the weight of plates and your load out on your waist just like a modern backpack does? You would just need a polymer frame that twists with your torso but supports most of the weight of the plate on a waist belt, which could also be used to carry gear and would accept a holster, standard or drop leg.

If you take this idea and decide to run with it, I just ask that you send me one of the finished products when its done. I take an extra large vest so you need to produce one that accepts 11 x 14 SAPI's.
Link Posted: 10/25/2013 12:05:31 PM EST
Apparently Crye does. It's called the Structural Kinetic Support System (StKSS). I've never tried it myself, but it's supposed to distribute weight onto your hips.



http://www.cryeprecision.com/P-BLC02802LG0/Stkss%E2%84%A2-Load-System
Link Posted: 10/25/2013 12:54:41 PM EST
Or you could just shift some of your kit to a battle belt.

There's a reason this is a popular setup.
Link Posted: 10/25/2013 2:12:48 PM EST
The problem with that is you would have to take all of your kit off at once versus dropping just the PC or just the belt.

Like KillerB6 said, just move some stuff to your belt, reduce what you are carrying or start working out more and judging by the size of plates you use I doubt you need to work out......don't hurt me

It could also be the design of your PC that is causing the discomfort.

What all are you carrying?
Link Posted: 10/25/2013 4:47:53 PM EST
I think LBT and Tyr also have something similar.
Link Posted: 10/25/2013 6:04:51 PM EST
Is this what you're thinking of?

http://www.mysteryranch.com/military/body-armor-solution-packs/base-frame
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 1:47:58 AM EST
Hit the gym girly man. Shrugs all day

But seriously though, really evaluate what you have. There's always ways to consolidate gear and equipment.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 9:03:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2013 9:07:43 PM EST by Swat_dude]
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Originally Posted By clharr:
The problem with that is you would have to take all of your kit off at once versus dropping just the PC or just the belt.

Like KillerB6 said, just move some stuff to your belt, reduce what you are carrying or start working out more and judging by the size of plates you use I doubt you need to work out......don't hurt me

It could also be the design of your PC that is causing the discomfort.

What all are you carrying?
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Basically just 5 loaded mags, blow-out kit, Level IV 11 x 14 SAPI Plates front and back, and a 3L Hydration pouch on a TAG XL Rampage Carrier. I am 6'2", 220, 36 inch waist so isn't exactly like I'm overweight or out of shape, but I am getting older.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 10:33:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Swat_dude:


Basically just 5 loaded mags, blow-out kit, Level IV 11 x 14 SAPI Plates front and back, and a 3L Hydration pouch on a TAG XL Rampage Carrier. I am 6'2", 220, 36 inch waist so isn't exactly like I'm overweight or out of shape, but I am getting older.
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Originally Posted By Swat_dude:
Originally Posted By clharr:
The problem with that is you would have to take all of your kit off at once versus dropping just the PC or just the belt.

Like KillerB6 said, just move some stuff to your belt, reduce what you are carrying or start working out more and judging by the size of plates you use I doubt you need to work out......don't hurt me

It could also be the design of your PC that is causing the discomfort.

What all are you carrying?


Basically just 5 loaded mags, blow-out kit, Level IV 11 x 14 SAPI Plates front and back, and a 3L Hydration pouch on a TAG XL Rampage Carrier. I am 6'2", 220, 36 inch waist so isn't exactly like I'm overweight or out of shape, but I am getting older.

That's really not that much. I wonder if it's just the plate carrier that's causing the discomfort.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 10:47:08 PM EST
Are you using shoulder pads at all? I'm using the HSGI neoprene ones and they work great at taming a heavy burden. They don't slip around either which is nice, but they can get a little sweaty.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:12:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By clharr:

That's really not that much. I wonder if it's just the plate carrier that's causing the discomfort.
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Originally Posted By Swat_dude:
Originally Posted By clharr:
The problem with that is you would have to take all of your kit off at once versus dropping just the PC or just the belt.

Like KillerB6 said, just move some stuff to your belt, reduce what you are carrying or start working out more and judging by the size of plates you use I doubt you need to work out......don't hurt me

It could also be the design of your PC that is causing the discomfort.

What all are you carrying?


Basically just 5 loaded mags, blow-out kit, Level IV 11 x 14 SAPI Plates front and back, and a 3L Hydration pouch on a TAG XL Rampage Carrier. I am 6'2", 220, 36 inch waist so isn't exactly like I'm overweight or out of shape, but I am getting older.

That's really not that much. I wonder if it's just the plate carrier that's causing the discomfort.


This is what I was thinking. Or possibly the needs to adjust the shoulder straps so the carrier rides higher.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 4:32:41 AM EST
Crye does has a setup like this, has to straps on the side that transfer the load. Problem is when you connect you vest to the belt it does make cutting away the armor more difficult.

I personally just wear my battle belt a bit higher so it helps carrier some of the weight of the vest.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:48:29 AM EST


neva been done befo
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 4:09:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/28/2013 4:10:34 PM EST by wag_bag]
There's at least three different companies doing exactly what you're talking about. Never tried them. If you do, do a write up.

eta: in addition to the three listed above, mystery ranch also has a similar product out.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 7:51:21 PM EST
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