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Posted: 9/11/2004 9:10:21 AM EST
As promised here's my rifle during some CQB training last month.




Its a TRW National Match, semi only, wood stock, SA Scout Scope mount and EOTech.

Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:00:24 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:09:02 AM EST
Very nice!
Good thing you got such a kickass rifle, cause you ain't getting that sidearm out very fast from under that vest.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:38:28 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/11/2004 8:16:52 PM EST by sgtar15]
I like it! I like it alot!


Nice to see there are still real men in the world that like real rifles!


Sgatr15
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 1:26:26 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 1:42:28 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 5:56:30 PM EST
THAT IS SERIOUSLY BAD ASS!!! GO GET 'EM!!!!!
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:08:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/11/2004 6:32:32 PM EST by HeavyMetal]
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:10:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/11/2004 6:10:47 PM EST by Lumpy196]
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:14:25 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:32:50 PM EST
Talk to me. How did you mount that sight? Is that a Scout or what? I got a M1A and I would like to mount a decent dot sight but I gave up on mounting anything over the ejection port. that just isn't happening man.

So give - how'd ya do it?

Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:40:46 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:52:34 PM EST
before I jump off into the deep end......

tell us about your sidearm and armor setup .
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 7:29:36 PM EST
Hey combat diver, thanks for all your doing over there, kick ass, and come home in one piece brother.
Joe
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 7:30:56 PM EST
Combat_Diver- nice rig; I noticed the holster on your hip. Can you tell me what type or who made it? Oh, thanks for your service to our country...
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 7:30:57 PM EST
awesone set up and thanks for your service!Are your M14 mag pouches issue or after market? I'm looking for some MOLLE compatible M14 mags to use on a vest I picked up cheap at a gun show recently.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 8:07:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/11/2004 8:09:14 PM EST by Combat_Diver]
I'll try an answer all your questions.

1. Posted also on battlerifles.com
2. Body Armor is Point Blank Interceptor
3. Pouches are MOLLE 100rd 7.62 MG pouches with the fastex removed and velcro sewn on. I like the fact depending on mission and weapon carried I can carry M14 mags, M4/16 mags, linked 7.62 or 40mm rounds.
4. Pistol is issue M9 with M882 ball and stiffer mag spings
4. Holster is a old Left hand Gordon Davis Liberty rig that I've been using for the last 15 yrs. Its made for a Beretta 92 but also fits a M1911. So I use it for both guns. I raise my right shoulder up and I can access the pistol quite well for transitions. However for when I do go outside the wire I wear a seperate pistol belt and thigh holster.
5. Mount is a Springfield Armory Scout mount with cut away handguard.
6. EOTech is a 552 (AA bat) with factory mount for weaver/Pic. rail
7. Other guns that I'm issued are a M240B, M4A1and M79. Also usually a M2 HB .50 cal gunner on convoys.

I think that covers it.

Heavy Metal - Very nice range

CD
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 8:19:23 PM EST
*******WARNING********

*****GUN PORN AHEAD*****




SGtar15
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 8:20:29 PM EST



SGtar15


PS I got wood from looking at sythetics
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:08:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
That is an issue M-14 he has, not a commercial copy. You can see where the selector switch was and is replaced with a selector lock welded in place, just like the one I was issued on the Rifle Team back in the early 90's.


Why did the govt weld the selector switch for? If set for semi-auto, it will always fire semi, unless somebody has a key that will change it to full-auto.?


Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
6. EOTech is a 552 (AA bat) with factory mount for weaver/Pic. rail


Did you have to personally pay for the EOTech sight & mount? Personally, I find it appalling for our soldiers to personally have to pay for such equipment, when they should be issued.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:19:31 PM EST
You can shorten that thing up by simply putting the stock underneath your shoulder and firing. Perfect for MOUT. BLAM, BLAM, BLAM, BLAM, BLAM.....
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 12:11:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/12/2004 12:13:25 AM EST by gs430]
What about this for MOUT....better than a M4? Especially after 09/13 where you'll be able to buy 50+ round mags for every gun on the planet!!



I wish I had a registered pre-ban M1A...and I wish I lived in a state that allowed SBR's...but then I wouldn't need a "registered" pre-ban M1A....ah, this state sucks donkey balls.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 3:28:34 AM EST
Warload- Its all issued.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 5:21:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/12/2004 5:23:25 AM EST by Different]
warlord posted:

Why did the govt weld the selector switch for? If set for semi-auto, it will always fire semi, unless somebody has a key that will change it to full-auto.?

Note, Combat Diver has a M14 NM rifle. From the free online book M14 Rifle History and Development at www.imageseek.com/m1a

M14 M
A very few M14 rifles were permanently rendered semi-automatic. This was accomplished by welding the selector shaft lock, selector lock pin, selector shaft, sear release and the receiver. This prevented installation of the selector switch. Otherwise, the M14 M (Modified) rifle was a rack grade M14. This modification was officially announced in the Director of Civilian Marksmanship 1963 Rifle National Matches bulletin according to Stevens. The Army announced it in Army Regulation 920-25 dated 8 February 1965. “It was the intention of the U. S. Army to issue modified M14 rifles to shooting clubs and to sell them through the Director of Civilian Marksmanship (DCM) program . . .. Apparently, these rifles were never released." (4) The Gun Control Act was signed by President Lyndon B. Johnson on October 22, 1968 and it went into effect on December 16, 1968. This law, among other things, prevented distribution of the M14 rifle to the public. The M14 M rifle was identified by stamping the letter “M” after “M14” on the receiver heel. Springfield Armory (Springfield, MA) had converted 1009 rifles to M14 M by June 30, 1963.

M14 NM
A development program to turn the M14 into a competition match rifle was begun at Springfield Armory in 1959. Springfield Armory and TRW made such M14 rifles from scratch. They were designated M14 NM. Additionally, Springfield Armory and Rock Island Arsenal converted some M14 rifles to M14 NM models. M14 NM rifles received the same welding operation as the M14 M rifles.

A) M14 NM Production - 18,325 M14 NM rifles were produced from 1962 to 1967 with 6,500 of them produced in 1962 and 1963 by Springfield Armory. (5) Duff writes “an order for delivery of 3,000 M14 National Match rifles by August 1, 1962 was received by the Armory” and “Springfield reportedly delivered 3,550 new National Match rifles in 1963.” (6) This makes Duff’s accounting fifty more than Poyer for 1962 and 1963. 7200 M14 NM rifles were manufactured in 1962 and 1963 at Springfield Armory. (7) Additionally, the National Rifle Association reported 4,874 M14 NM rifles made by TRW. (8) However, TRW reported production of 7,609 M14 NM rifles. (9) Using the smallest numbers available, the minimum number produced was 18,325 (10). The maximum number produced would be 21,760 (7200 built for ’62 and ’63 + 7,609 built for ’64 + 6,951 rebuilt for ’65, ’66 and ’67).

B) M14 NM Distinctive Features - The receiver heels were stamped M14 NM. The NM stamping appears just to the right of M14 or on the flat surface next to the rear sight. The major differences between the M14 NM and the M14 were: 1) NM barrel is held to half the tolerances of the rack grade barrel and is not chrome plated 2) NM rifle receiver is glass bedded to the stock 3) specific parts are hand fitted and assembled 4) NM rear sight is adjustable in ½ MOA increments and 5) select fire parts are welded to prevent operation.

C) M14 NM Issue - M14 NM “rifles were made available at the 1963 National Rifle Matches for shooter orientation” and “became a regular issue item at the 1964 and 1965 Matches.” (11) The M14 type rifle was popular in competition shooting until the early 1990s. The M14 was used by the U. S. Marine Corps at Camp Perry as late as 1996. However, U. S. DCM shooting clubs such as the Alabama State Service Rifle Team still inventory M14 NM rifles at the time of this writing.

D) M14 NM as a Sniper Rifle - The first M14 rifles for sniping duty were used by the U. S. Army. In March, 1967 125 M14 NM rifles mounted with M84 2.2 X scopes were shipped to Viet Nam. There were M14 rifles equipped with M84 scopes in use in Viet Nam even after the XM21 with ART scope was fielded.

E) Civilian Ownership of the M14 NM - The court case, U. S. v. One U. S. (TRW) 7.62mm M-14 National Match Rifle, Serial No. 143711, 1980 WL 95647 (S. D. Ohio, May 20, 1980), is worthy of mention. Though this case applies only to this particular M14 NM rifle, it does establish that the M14 NM rifle as manufactured by TRW (Cleveland, OH) and Springfield Armory (Springfield, MA) is not capable of and is not designed for automatic fire. Robert Sauerman purchased the TRW M14 NM rifle serial number 143711 in 1973 or 1974. It was not registered as a NFA firearm. In order to set the question of the legal status to rest, Mr. Sauerman informed the BATF that he was in possession of the TRW M14 NM. This TRW M14 NM was confiscated from the owner, Robert Sauerman, by the BATF on September 27, 1977 at his gun shop near Dayton, Ohio. This TRW M14 NM was judged not to be a machine gun and ordered to be returned to Mr. Sauerman. The TRW M14 NM serial number 143711 was sold by Mr. Sauerman around 1986 or 1987 to the current owner. Later, Robert Sauerman met an untimely death when a drunk driver crossed lanes and hit him head on at a stoplight. The current owner of TRW M14 NM serial number 143711 also possesses the court case documents and a Springfield Armory M14 NM.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 5:25:55 AM EST
Hey, C-D, I'm not telling you what's in your holster, bro..but that sure looks like a 1911 to me!
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 5:26:13 AM EST
ok, just how the heck do you plan on accessing your pistol with it under your armor?
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 5:42:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By RED_5:
ok, just how the heck do you plan on accessing your pistol with it under your armor?



4. Holster is a old Left hand Gordon Davis Liberty rig that I've been using for the last 15 yrs. Its made for a Beretta 92 but also fits a M1911. So I use it for both guns. I raise my right shoulder up and I can access the pistol quite well for transitions. However for when I do go outside the wire I wear a seperate pistol belt and thigh holster.


Different Member- Your correct on the NM info. As stated mine is a TRW with all the proscribed features. Barrel is dated 3-66 and SN 1453302. Receiver is marked
U.S. RIFLE
7.62-MM M14 NM
TRW (in triangle)
1453302

CD
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 5:45:24 AM EST
ooops, sorry...

Link Posted: 9/12/2004 5:47:25 AM EST
Edit...magnified the pic, it's a Beretta with brown grips...

Link Posted: 9/12/2004 6:02:55 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/12/2004 6:05:24 AM EST by Combat_Diver]
Sorry, Quite Shooter there standard WORN black plastic grips. Lighting is bad for the sun is just rising behind me.

CD
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