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Posted: 11/20/2012 4:42:10 AM EDT
I was in my LGS last night and they just had this come in a few minutes before I got there.





Said it was a Spanish Mauser in .308. It does say 308W under the barrel in what looks to be more modern markings. It says 7.62 (badly mistruck 6) on the left side of the receiver in what looks to be original stampings. One mark on the stock, the same mark thats on the top of the receiver. Overall the rifle is in "ok" shape, nothing spectacular. Bolt is clean and seems smooth. Safety seems to be stuck, but I have found a few articles on how to fix that problem. It does seem as none of the serial numbers on the floorplate, receiver, bolt or buttplate match.

My intent is to sell it, as it looked like it needed to be rescued and sent to a collector that would appreciate it. What I need to know is what the rifle is, and how to accurately represent the rifle in the add.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 4:45:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/20/2012 4:48:29 AM EDT by MVolkJ]
Looks like a pretty typical M1916 Guardia Civil Mauser.

These were originally 7mm Mauser but a bunch of them got converted to 7.62x51. It's questionable as to whether these are safe with full-power .308; best to err on the side of caution and just use 7.62x51 surplus or downloaded handloads in them.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 4:56:23 AM EDT
+1 to what Mark said.

I had one at one time and actually did shoot .308 in it on a few occasions. I would advise against it, however, as I experienced difficult extraction and pierced primers (yeah, I was young and ignorant at the time).
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 5:01:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/20/2012 5:02:55 AM EDT by jungp]
I believe that was actually for 7.62 CETME cartridge and not .308

7.62 CETME is very much dimensionally similar to .308 winchester.
However, it is loaded at much lower pressure.
(much like Japnese 7.62x51 for their MBR)
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 5:11:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By jungp:
I believe that was actually for 7.62 CETME cartridge and not .308

7.62 CETME is very much dimensionally similar to .308 winchester.
However, it is loaded at much lower pressure.
(much like Japnese 7.62x51 for their MBR)


Even if it says 308W under the barrel?



Thanks everyone for the quick help. What would be the best way to find a date and value on this weapon?
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 5:28:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/20/2012 5:29:05 AM EDT by MVolkJ]
I don't know a way to date the Guardia Civil rifles. They're not date-marked anywhere. Bear in mind that they started life as M1893 Mausers and as such could be antiques, if there was any way to prove a "born on date".

Value? $200-250, maybe?
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 10:29:07 AM EDT
Probably worth $200 for a collection because i always hear they probably shouldn't be fired.

Finding a FR-8 is where it is at.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 11:12:12 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 11:57:08 AM EDT
The 1916 .308 myth still lives. That rifle will eat bricks of commercial 308 and not skip a beat. I had one for a few years and shot all kinds of 308 through it. Not a single problem and no headspace issues.

The importer had the rifles tested to destruction and the results were that this action pisses on 308. Link to article provided below.

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/726/3082pc6.jpg
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