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Link Posted: 9/17/2020 9:36:07 AM EDT
Does anyone know what page it was talked about for the butler creek cover that was used as a make shift cover on the laser for the P3?
Link Posted: 9/17/2020 4:47:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jwidman:
Ordered Perst 4 on Ebay Sep 9th, shipped 11th, arrived in USA on 16th.  
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Received!
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Link Posted: 9/17/2020 5:44:18 PM EDT
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Hellifi know what page but it was a Butler Creek #1 "Blizzard" model, which I don't recommend cuz I swear the laser was crazing the clear plastic lens.  Going to an all rubber, flip off cover now.  Still a BC #1, just solid cover.   It is approx 1" dia.

Link Posted: 9/17/2020 7:04:41 PM EDT
On another note, I have a buddy who got a Perst-3, who's buddy then got a Perst-3, and was not happy with it, for whatever reason.  Zenitco did not hesitate to send him another replacement unit.  So not only are shipping times back to semi-normal, but the Russians are trying like hell to match US-style CS.  Which is sorta over-the-top sometimes, but neither here nor there.    

So I know there has been much pissing and moaning here about shipping, and CS, and QC, but you have to give the devil his due.  These guys are trying like hell to compete on a world market.  And are seeing some success, IMHO.
Link Posted: 9/17/2020 8:06:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Diz:
Hellifi know what page but it was a Butler Creek #1 "Blizzard" model, which I don't recommend cuz I swear the laser was crazing the clear plastic lens.  Going to an all rubber, flip off cover now.  Still a BC #1, just solid cover.   It is approx 1" dia.

https://i.imgur.com/YoJvrvb.jpg
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Thank you so much!!
Link Posted: 9/19/2020 3:29:32 PM EDT
Ordered a P3 from Ivan on AUG 27, shipped AUG 28,  got a "We missed you note" from USPS on SEP 19. Not too shabby. Looking forward to trying it out.
Link Posted: 9/19/2020 5:04:32 PM EDT
Got my 4+ in today. Life is good.
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Link Posted: 9/20/2020 6:29:52 AM EDT
found this video on how to splice your perst in with a surefire dual pressure pad

https://youtu.be/PlNbfEZTFj0
Link Posted: 9/20/2020 7:59:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bull3tToothTony:
found this video on how to splice your perst in with a surefire dual pressure pad

https://youtu.be/PlNbfEZTFj0
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Link Posted: 9/20/2020 11:42:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Diz:
On another note, I have a buddy who got a Perst-3, who's buddy then got a Perst-3, and was not happy with it, for whatever reason.  Zenitco did not hesitate to send him another replacement unit.  So not only are shipping times back to semi-normal, but the Russians are trying like hell to match US-style CS.  Which is sorta over-the-top sometimes, but neither here nor there.    

So I know there has been much pissing and moaning here about shipping, and CS, and QC, but you have to give the devil his due.  These guys are trying like hell to compete on a world market.  And are seeing some success, IMHO.
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Where does this come from? I have yet to hear of someone who encountered bad customer service.
Link Posted: 9/20/2020 12:19:07 PM EDT
does anyone have 1 or 2 spare  SA6 plugs I could buy? I'd like to add a dual switch to my setup.
Link Posted: 9/20/2020 1:22:11 PM EDT
Is there a page or ref for perst 3 mounting preference and why?

12:00, 3:00 or 9.

Link Posted: 9/20/2020 1:52:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fuchi:
Is there a page or ref for perst 3 mounting preference and why?

12:00, 3:00 or 9.

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Why not 6?
Link Posted: 9/20/2020 8:11:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ARShooter91:


Why not 6?
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Originally Posted By ARShooter91:
Originally Posted By Fuchi:
Is there a page or ref for perst 3 mounting preference and why?

12:00, 3:00 or 9.



Why not 6?


I don't know. I suppose I've never seen it mounted that way.

Is that your preference?
Link Posted: 9/20/2020 8:12:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By slappomatt:
does anyone have 1 or 2 spare  SA6 plugs I could buy? I'd like to add a dual switch to my setup.
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I have an order in for 20, but manufacturer still not giving me a clear answer when they will ship. Alibaba is clearly not Amazon Prime.
Link Posted: 9/20/2020 9:10:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fuchi:


I don't know. I suppose I've never seen it mounted that way.

Is that your preference?
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Just being dumb. I think most would agree 12:00 on an AR is the best location. Maybe 9 but 3 would put your laser at a weird offset.

12 keeps it out of the way most of the time shooting against or around obstacles.
Link Posted: 9/20/2020 10:29:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ARShooter91:


Just being dumb. I think most would agree 12:00 on an AR is the best location. Maybe 9 but 3 would put your laser at a weird offset.

12 keeps it out of the way most of the time shooting against or around obstacles.
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Originally Posted By Fuchi:


I don't know. I suppose I've never seen it mounted that way.

Is that your preference?


Just being dumb. I think most would agree 12:00 on an AR is the best location. Maybe 9 but 3 would put your laser at a weird offset.

12 keeps it out of the way most of the time shooting against or around obstacles.


I got around to sighting mine in today. My son was having a kick shooting steel at 100 yards with sight over bore. I put it at 12 on an 11.5 pistol. Trained it into my red dot and had it zeroed in 10 mins.

I'm glad I went with a 3 instead of the 4.
Link Posted: 9/20/2020 11:30:55 PM EDT
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Decided to put my PERST4M at the 12oclock.  CI7 IR Light is at the 7. Feels better and doesn't interfere with optics.
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Link Posted: 9/20/2020 11:40:22 PM EDT
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Decided to put my PERST4M at the 12oclock.  CI7 IR Light is at the 7. Feels better and doesn't interfere with optics.
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That PERST-4M is fucking awesome! I like mine a lot!
Link Posted: 9/21/2020 12:12:19 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gopherboy128:


That PERST-4M is fucking awesome! I like mine a lot!
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What’s a good price?
Link Posted: 9/21/2020 12:19:41 AM EDT
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I paid $645 on eBay. Zenitco doesnt have any up on eBay right now.
Link Posted: 9/21/2020 12:33:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gopherboy128:
I paid $645 on eBay. Zenitco doesnt have any up on eBay right now.
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That’s a huge price spread

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Link Posted: 9/21/2020 12:35:22 AM EDT
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The 4M is the super green laser version.
Laser power in max. brightness: green - not lower than 35 mW, IR - not lower than 18 mW
Link Posted: 9/21/2020 12:50:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jwidman:

The 4M is the super green laser version.
Laser power in max. brightness: green - not lower than 35 mW, IR - not lower than 18 mW
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And the 4M is smaller.
Link Posted: 9/21/2020 9:15:23 PM EDT
Does anyone know if a Modlite Modswitch with a Fusion Lightwing from Unity will fit under a Perst 3? Trying to find a workable solution for my white light. I'm going to be activating my Perst with the buttons on thr unit and the Modswitch would sit nicely right behind it.
Link Posted: 9/21/2020 9:20:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SlinginYeets:
Does anyone know if a Modlite Modswitch with a Fusion Lightwing from Unity will fit under a Perst 3? Trying to find a workable solution for my white light. I'm going to be activating my Perst with the buttons on thr unit and the Modswitch would sit nicely right behind it.
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IMO the hot setup has already been posted a ways back. the unity hot button hard up against the perst with the perst tape switch butted up against that. tucks in really nice. if only unity hot buttons existed.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 5:43:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By slappomatt:
IMO the hot setup has already been posted a ways back. the unity hot button hard up against the perst with the perst tape switch butted up against that. tucks in really nice. if only unity hot buttons existed.
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Tried this. The Hot Button prevented me from operating the Perst efficiently from my offhand. I'm not using the Perst tape switch, not enough real estate.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 10:51:05 AM EDT
Ah, must be a shorter rail. Since all the cool switches are unobtainium I'm using zenitco tape switch and the tail cap on the scout light. I really want a double switch setup as it's a bit of a reach to hit the tail cap.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 12:14:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By slappomatt:
Ah, must be a shorter rail. Since all the cool switches are unobtainium I'm using zenitco tape switch and the tail cap on the scout light. I really want a double switch setup as it's a bit of a reach to hit the tail cap.
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I have a TAPS SYNC that was on the gun previously when I had a DBAL A3. That doesn't fit with the Perst mounted and I really didn't want to modify the TAPS as I can use it on another build. On page 42 of this thread someone mentioned that the Lightwing mounted on the Modbutton will clear a Perst 3. I just ordered a right handed Lightwing and now have to wait on the Modbutton to come back in stock to verify this.
Link Posted: 9/23/2020 8:33:48 AM EDT
I played with my Perst-3 over the weekend. I was a bit surprised by the size of the "dot" projected by the IR laser. It seems rather large.
Link Posted: 9/23/2020 1:36:26 PM EDT
So if anyone needs to replace the illuminator adjusting screw I have a box of 98 left over.

I dicked up one the hex heads and stripped it out trying to align the illuminator to the laser.

McMaster-Carr had what I needed and its a good alloy steel so not likely to strip.

It's an M2 x 0.4mm by 10mm long.

Link Posted: 9/23/2020 2:08:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HardHed:
I played with my Perst-3 over the weekend. I was a bit surprised by the size of the "dot" projected by the IR laser. It seems rather large.
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It *is* 'biggish' even at min power.
Link Posted: 9/23/2020 2:19:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mickdonaldson:



It *is* 'biggish' even at min power.
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Do you have a red and a green+?
Link Posted: 9/23/2020 2:32:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ARShooter91:


Do you have a red and a green+?
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PERST-3 Green Std. The Green is fine, the IR is on the "fluffy" side, but I only have a Civvie Holosun LS321 to compare to. It's still fine on a 'Bob' dummy out to 100 - but that's as far as I can go on my property. This is also with Aurora Pro's - which see up to 1100nm, which may make it bloom more? I'd like to see pics/vid through Analog Gen 3 to compare.
Link Posted: 9/24/2020 4:16:38 AM EDT
I ordered a perst-3+ from black phase tactical on june 11 and still haven’t received it. Anyone else in the same boat?
Link Posted: 9/24/2020 3:48:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By John_Basilone:
I ordered a perst-3+ from black phase tactical on june 11 and still haven’t received it. Anyone else in the same boat?
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Several of us. Read back a few pages for updates from an acquaintance of the owner. Short story is that they're on the way but stuck or lost somewhere between Russia and the US.

I am trying to hang in there as long as possible because it isn't the owners fault, just a symptom of the times, so I don't want him to be out a bunch of orders. You'll have to decide at what point you will need to cancel the order / chargeback the amount. I think I'm going to give it another month or so; but at some point I need something to shoot with and don't have the money for 2x LAMs.
Link Posted: 9/25/2020 1:27:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dblazevich:


Several of us. Read back a few pages for updates from an acquaintance of the owner. Short story is that they're on the way but stuck or lost somewhere between Russia and the US.

I am trying to hang in there as long as possible because it isn't the owners fault, just a symptom of the times, so I don't want him to be out a bunch of orders. You'll have to decide at what point you will need to cancel the order / chargeback the amount. I think I'm going to give it another month or so; but at some point I need something to shoot with and don't have the money for 2x LAMs.
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Since May, but I'll also wait one more month...
Link Posted: 9/25/2020 2:10:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mickdonaldson:


PERST-3 Green Std. The Green is fine, the IR is on the "fluffy" side, but I only have a Civvie Holosun LS321 to compare to. It's still fine on a 'Bob' dummy out to 100 - but that's as far as I can go on my property. This is also with Aurora Pro's - which see up to 1100nm, which may make it bloom more? I'd like to see pics/vid through Analog Gen 3 to compare.
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The Aurora definitely causes more bloom. I have a green+ 3 that doesn't adjust down as dim as my red 3s. I also have a 4 green+ that adjusts down pretty low like the red ones.
Link Posted: 9/25/2020 3:03:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ARShooter91:


The Aurora definitely causes more bloom. I have a green+ 3 that doesn't adjust down as dim as my red 3s. I also have a 4 green+ that adjusts down pretty low like the red ones.
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Thanks. Yea, I figured - also interesting about the variation between your units. Color of target matters too - black steel probably looks ok - I've got Dark brown doors on my 'test shed' and it looks good.  I stuck a Chinese made CQR Combat Shirt on 'Bob' and it lit up like a neon sign, but within 100 there was still plenty of area to "center" it. I'm going to try again with a UF Pro shirt. I'm still playing around but it's real world workable, if not ideal. It's like if it had one or two button/knob clicks lower, it would be perfect.
Link Posted: 9/25/2020 3:08:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mickdonaldson:



Thanks. Yea, I figured - also interesting about the variation between your units. Color of target matters too - black steel probably looks ok - I've got Dark brown doors on my 'test shed' and it looks good.  I stuck a Chinese made CQR Combat Shirt on 'Bob' and it lit up like a neon sign, but within 100 there was still plenty of area to "center" it. I'm going to try again with a UF Pro shirt. I'm still playing around but it's real world workable, if not ideal. It's like if it had one or two button/knob clicks lower, it would be perfect.
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My red units can adjust low enough to eliminate bloom at 50yards, probably still some up closer. That is with a white steel target.

Going to any of the Ohio night shoots?
Link Posted: 9/28/2020 12:42:50 AM EDT
Perst 3 repair

9/21/20

Arrived at delivery office in Oryol
Link Posted: 9/28/2020 1:17:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SlinginYeets:


Shew. I saw one guy had his delivered to an address in Switzerland, thought mine was about to go stamp collecting.
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Yep mine did


Shew. I saw one guy had his delivered to an address in Switzerland, thought mine was about to go stamp collecting.


Nah mine made it.  Didn’t show one by one updates when I saw it in Poland.  Was Moscow, some other city, Poland a few times, then JFK
Link Posted: 9/28/2020 6:23:45 AM EDT
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Well, better get these Persts while you can. Some clown on the Night Vision 101 FB group posted a FDA agent's email address and told people to email him about buying a Perst as the FDA is looking into them coming into the States..
Link Posted: 9/28/2020 7:50:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SlinginYeets:
Well, better get these Persts while you can. Some clown on the Night Vision 101 FB group posted a FDA agent's email address and told people to email him about buying a Perst as the FDA is looking into them coming into the States..
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Why would they be interested in those when you can get lasers that light matches and pop ballons or is it only IR that has the no no.
Link Posted: 9/28/2020 8:24:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fuchi:


Why would they be interested in those when you can get lasers that light matches and pop ballons or is it only IR that has the no no.
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Originally Posted By SlinginYeets:
Well, better get these Persts while you can. Some clown on the Night Vision 101 FB group posted a FDA agent's email address and told people to email him about buying a Perst as the FDA is looking into them coming into the States..


Why would they be interested in those when you can get lasers that light matches and pop ballons or is it only IR that has the no no.


Do we actually have any proof of this? Or just I heard it from so and so, and he heard it from so and so. Garand Thumb? Lol who is basically a shill
Link Posted: 9/28/2020 8:36:55 AM EDT
Well yeah since someone brought this up, my boss apporached several of these big name reviewers and surprise! they want thousands of dollars to pimp your product.  So yeah that is confirmed; they are just shills.  Buyer beware.
Link Posted: 9/28/2020 9:43:49 AM EDT
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Well yeah since someone brought this up, my boss apporached several of these big name reviewers and surprise! they want thousands of dollars to pimp your product.  So yeah that is confirmed; they are just shills.  Buyer beware.
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Grand Thumb (on YouTube) pointed out a Perst 3 on one of his builds and stated that it is in testing and that he wasn't really to talk about it yet. I'll try to dig up the video...
Link Posted: 9/28/2020 9:59:09 AM EDT
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Grand Thumb (on YouTube) pointed out a Perst 3 on one of his builds and stated that it is in testing and that he wasn't really to talk about it yet. I'll try to dig up the video...
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Found it. Garand Thumb's LMT MARS-H 308 / 6.5 Creedmoor review...

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Link that starts at the 10 min. mark:

https://youtu.be/x1_zQKBQ4yw?t=600

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Go to the 10 minute mark in the following video:

LMT MARS-H 308 / 6.5 creedmoor (SR-25 has competition!)
Link Posted: 9/28/2020 10:04:57 AM EDT
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Do we actually have any proof of this? Or just I heard it from so and so, and he heard it from so and so. Garand Thumb? Lol who is basically a shill
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No proof, just what this guy is saying on FB. The problem is those idiots are going to actually email that agent and ask questions about the Perst legality. Sort of like they did with the ATF and braces.
Link Posted: 9/28/2020 10:46:50 AM EDT
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