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Link Posted: 1/22/2020 6:24:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By KPog:
Just played with my perst 3 for the first time last night, laser and illuminator seemed kinda anemic imo. Buttons also seemed like they wanted to work some of the time, laser stayed on in the illum only setting
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Yeah, that's not right. Did you try a new battery? Yeah, I know - obvious. Also, make sure the intensity is dialed all the way up on the switch or on the side buttons. Sucks if you got a lemon. You'll know if it's working right, the illuminator is kick ass and the pointer is actually a bit too bright even in the lowest setting.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 6:37:56 PM EST
Perst 4 arrived today, ordered Janurary 13th, ordered off eBay payed for the “Standard” shipping. Initial thoughts on fit and finish are nice.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 6:58:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:

I wouldn't worry to much. Mine had said processed through facility (in Russia) for several days and then it suddenly popped up in NY.
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This happened with mine as well
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 10:58:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/25/2020 1:34:18 AM EST by dlm1984]
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Originally Posted By wjoutlaw:
I have dual 14s running Photonis tubes and I set up a PVS-14 using a Photonis WP tube for my wife. They are on par with Omni4-5 era.
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Originally Posted By wjoutlaw:
Originally Posted By Daggertt:
Originally Posted By RyanEsstac:

Looks better in person... Its a Photonis Echo Gen2+ PVS14 from Nightvision Inc. I didn't really even focus the PVS14, just set for mid distance.
FOM 2165
Luminance 8360
Center Res. 69
S/N 31.38

Its not as bright as some of the american tubes, but it a very clear clean tube.
It's only gen 2 because of technical definitions. Performance-wise, your tubes are on par with a lot of gen 3 stuff.
I have dual 14s running Photonis tubes and I set up a PVS-14 using a Photonis WP tube for my wife. They are on par with Omni4-5 era.
My Photonis tubes are around 2050 FOM. They're nice, and are worlds better than the OMNI IV contract tube in my PVS14, but I expect I'll make the jump to L3 tubes eventually.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 10:05:53 AM EST
@VA-Gunnut & @DFarm

Did yours show as processing through a facility in Russia then updated to NY, USA?
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 10:54:17 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MadeByMattell:

Sign up for tracking notifications on USPS site. The ebay tracking is lagging by several hours if not a day.
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Thanks, going there now.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 11:35:39 AM EST
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Originally Posted By K1rodeoboater:
@VA-Gunnut & @DFarm

Did yours show as processing through a facility in Russia then updated to NY, USA?
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Mine showed as

"Package has left the carrier facility
MOSKVA PCI-21, RUSSIAN FEDERATION" on the 12th
And the next update was

"Package has left the carrier facility
Isc New York Ny(Usps), US" on the 21st.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:54:32 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 3:56:44 PM EST
i really love how the perst has shut up the BE meyers fan bois. I remember posting one of the first social media photos of my perst 3 and one of the owners from BE meyers commented, saying it looks like a pos and is nothing like a Mawl. Now whose feeling the market shift?
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 6:09:30 PM EST
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Mine arrived today, 1 day after it hit New York.
Link Posted: 1/24/2020 4:08:23 AM EST
Sweet!!! ^^^

Mine is on the way over the pond. I signed up at USPS.com for every alert they had - thanks for that tip!
Link Posted: 1/24/2020 10:07:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/24/2020 10:08:25 AM EST by K1rodeoboater]
FYSA if you guys use https://www.17track.net/en to track your package you get a lot more info. For example here's mine from that website:

Package status: In transit
Country: Russian Federation -> United States
Destination:
2020-01-10 16:56, RUSSIAN FEDERATION, MOSKVA PCI 7, Processed Through Facility -> Your item has been processed through a facility in MOSKVA PCI 7, RUSSIAN FEDERATION at 4:56 pm on January 10, 2020.
2020-01-08 02:09, Origin Post is Preparing Shipment
2020-01-08 02:09, RUSSIAN FEDERATION, MOSKVA PCI-8 EMS, Processed Through Facility
2020-01-06 17:13, RUSSIAN FEDERATION, Acceptance
Origin:
2020-01-10 16:56, Russian Federation, Sheremet`evo MMPO PCI-7 104007, Export of international mail
2020-01-08 06:04, Russian Federation, Moskva EMS MMPO 130980, Customs clearance, Released by custom house
2020-01-08 06:03, Russian Federation, Moskva EMS MMPO 130980, Handed over to customs
2020-01-08 02:09, Russian Federation, Moskva EMS MMPO 130980, Processing, Arrival at transit office of exchange
2020-01-08 02:08, Russian Federation, Moskva EMS MMPO 130980, Processing, Arrival at inward office of exchange
2020-01-07 22:04, Russian Federation, MR LC Vnukovo 102975, Processing, Departure from inward office of exchange
2020-01-07 15:22, Russian Federation, MR LC Vnukovo 102975, Processing, Arrival at inward office of exchange
2020-01-07 10:50, Russian Federation, Moskva MSP-3 Cex-4 MPKO-Vostok 111974, Processing, Departure from inward office of exchange
2020-01-07 01:44, Russian Federation, Moskva MSP-3 Cex-4 MPKO-Vostok 111974, Processing, Arrival at inward office of exchange
2020-01-06 19:47, Russian Federation, Moskva 443 109443, Processing, Departed from origin facility
2020-01-06 17:13, Russian Federation, Moskva 443 109443, Acceptance, Single
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Vs this from Ebay
Jan 10, 2020 4:56pm Processed Through FacilityJan 8, 2020 2:09am Processed Through Facility
Jan 6, 2020 7:47pm

Jan 6, 2020 5:13pm

Jan 6, 2020 5:13pm Acceptance
Jan 6, 2020 8:23am Tracking number provided
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or from USPS

January 10, 2020, 4:56 pm
Processed Through Facility
MOSKVA PCI 7, RUSSIAN FEDERATION
Your item has been processed through a facility in MOSKVA PCI 7, RUSSIAN FEDERATION at 4:56 pm on January 10, 2020.

Origin Post is Preparing Shipment

January 8, 2020, 2:09 am
Processed Through Facility
MOSKVA PCI-8 EMS, RUSSIAN FEDERATION

January 6, 2020, 5:13 pm
Acceptance
RUSSIAN FEDERATION
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Link Posted: 1/24/2020 11:22:58 AM EST
Mine just landed here in Canada! Hopefully it doesnt stay at customs longs and gets to my house sometime next week!
Link Posted: 1/24/2020 11:46:18 AM EST
Mine is supposed to be delivered today!
Link Posted: 1/24/2020 12:41:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By K1rodeoboater:
FYSA if you guys use https://www.17track.net/en to track your package you get a lot more info.
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You rock! Thanks!
Link Posted: 1/24/2020 1:46:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/24/2020 1:47:07 PM EST by Vonbongo]
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Originally Posted By MadeByMattell:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/41371/perst4_jpg-1246493.JPGMine arrived today, 1 day after it hit New York.
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I ordered the same day and got it today. Bonus packaging pic.

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Trump baby made the Russian news....
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Link Posted: 1/24/2020 4:49:21 PM EST
can someone tell me or link me to somewhere that explains the differences between the perst models? I see the 3 is around $1200, but the 4 is very affordable.
Link Posted: 1/24/2020 5:11:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sevenpt62:
can someone tell me or link me to somewhere that explains the differences between the perst models? I see the 3 is around $1200, but the 4 is very affordable.
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4 doesn’t have an Illuminator.
Link Posted: 1/24/2020 5:37:16 PM EST
PERST-1 IR laser only
PERST-2 IR/VIS laser plus illuminator (18650 battery)
PERST-3 IR/VIS laser plus illuminator (cr123)
PERST-4 IR/VIS laser only (cr123)
Link Posted: 1/24/2020 5:40:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By K1rodeoboater:
PERST-1 IR laser only
PERST-2 IR/VIS laser plus illuminator (18650 battery)
PERST-3 IR/VIS laser plus illuminator (cr123)
PERST-4 IR/VIS laser only (cr123)
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Perst 2 has a built-in flashlight too.
Link Posted: 1/24/2020 6:30:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GataGunner:

Perst 2 has a built-in flashlight too.
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There is also a power difference. Perst 2 is blow the moon up level.
Link Posted: 1/24/2020 7:44:37 PM EST
The klesh-2 has landed!

I can't help but think that the aluminum tube is like 1/3 the price of the whole package. Lol

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Link Posted: 1/24/2020 7:47:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DFARM:
The klesh-2 has landed!

I can't help but think that the aluminum tube is like 1/3 the price of the whole package. Lol
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Is that going on an AR-15? I haven't seen a good photo of how far that sticks out compared to a scout light.
Link Posted: 1/24/2020 8:04:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nmxdavenn:

There is also a power difference. Perst 2 is blow the moon up level.
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I wonder if the Illuminator on the 2 is that much better than the 3 that it’s worth the extra cash

Are there comparison photos out there?
Link Posted: 1/24/2020 9:21:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MadeByMattell:
Is that going on an AR-15? I haven't seen a good photo of how far that sticks out compared to a scout light.
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It might end up on one. My first effort is going to be to try mounting it on an AK though.

The light is about the same size as an insight m3(or pretty much any other pistol light/laser.) The mount is about the same length as the light and drops the light about the thickness of the mount.

Hope it helps. I'll post pics when I get a mounting solution figured out.
Link Posted: 1/24/2020 11:12:18 PM EST
The thing is a lightsaber.

I was shining it on a tree that's at least 100 yards away and it still had the Halo around the dot.

The illuminator is like a good flashlight with a solid bright spot and plenty of spill.

I'm happy with the light/laser, now I just need to figure out how to get it stuck on a rifle.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 7:37:11 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MadeByMattell:
Is that going on an AR-15? I haven't seen a good photo of how far that sticks out compared to a scout light.
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Here it is on the bottom of a rifle. It’s a big bitch.

Link Posted: 1/25/2020 11:16:39 AM EST
I'm hesitant to put it on the bottom of a rifle, as it seems more likely to get smacked around.

For my first attempt, it's going on a 45° rail mounted on the very front on the right side of an ultimak tube on an AK.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 11:33:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DFARM:
I'm hesitant to put it on the bottom of a rifle, as it seems more likely to get smacked around.

For my first attempt, it's going on a 45° rail mounted on the very front on the right side of an ultimak tube on an AK.
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Agreed, but I run a clip on on that rifle. Only place for it.

When mounted to the side it’s so big it makes the rifle really weird to handle.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 11:58:51 AM EST
I imagine it would be.

Are the perst units a lot "flatter" than these?

I should have my 45° mount tomorrow, so I'll try to get a pic up once I get it mounted. My goal is to tuck it between the gas block and fsb as much as possible while not having the illuminator obstructed by the fsb.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:43:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DFARM:
I imagine it would be.

Are the perst units a lot "flatter" than these?

I should have my 45° mount tomorrow, so I'll try to get a pic up once I get it mounted. My goal is to tuck it between the gas block and fsb as much as possible while not having the illuminator obstructed by the fsb.
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Yea, the other units in the line are traditional looking LAM’s.

Please post pics. Curious how that looks.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 11:53:45 PM EST
I made a quick video comparing a MAWL, DBAL D2 and Perst 2. It is in my backyard so only 25y with a lot of ambient light from street lights. The Perst illuminator can basically be focused down to the same size as the laser making it quite versatile. I'll try to get to the range soon to compare at 100y.

Link Posted: 1/26/2020 12:10:24 AM EST
Originally Posted By whoreable:
i really love how the perst has shut up the BE meyers fan bois. I remember posting one of the first social media photos of my perst 3 and one of the owners from BE meyers commented, saying it looks like a pos and is nothing like a Mawl. Now whose feeling the market shift?
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I agree. But unless you know about this thread or a few social media guys to follow, you wouldn't know about the PERST stuff.

Originally Posted By MadeByMattell:
Is that going on an AR-15? I haven't seen a good photo of how far that sticks out compared to a scout light.
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Page 18 of this thread. I posted a bunch of pictures of the Klesh 2 on an AR. Go check it out.

Originally Posted By KPog:
Just played with my perst 3 for the first time last night, laser and illuminator seemed kinda anemic imo. Buttons also seemed like they wanted to work some of the time, laser stayed on in the illum only setting
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@KPog what do you mean by anemic? Post some pictures.
Link Posted: 1/26/2020 10:27:31 PM EST
Neat trick I didn't see mentioned yet is the adjustment caps on the Perst series have flats on them, great for adjusting them!
Link Posted: 1/26/2020 10:33:56 PM EST
Got the Perst 2 mounted up. Looks right at home on this AK.

Link Posted: 1/26/2020 10:58:08 PM EST
That looks great. I really like that small pressure switch too
Link Posted: 1/27/2020 12:23:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Synyster06Gates:
That looks great. I really like that small pressure switch too
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Size is great, but it is a bit “squishy”. I wish it was more positive like the top button.
Link Posted: 1/27/2020 9:24:59 AM EST
Ordered a Perst-4 a couple days before I went to survival school, was really hoping I would have it in hand by now, especially with expedited shipping, but last update I've got is it's been processed through PCI 7 in Moscow as of 19Jan
Link Posted: 1/27/2020 12:40:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By tranzformer:

@KPog what do you mean by anemic? Post some pictures.
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It did not seem to be any more powerful than the MAWL and OTAL-C I had with me. Not sure if it was the conditions or if it was somehow the battery. I was getting ready for a business trip and didn't have access so will have to try it this week and post pictures.
Link Posted: 1/27/2020 5:16:55 PM EST
About Zenitco from there website.

About us
Zenit company is a manufacturer of professional weapon lights, laser designators and weapon upgrade.
Zenit was founded on the 13th of December, 1994. We began our journey by producing small LED flashlights. Now, more than 20 years since the founding of our company, these small flashlights evolved into an entire line of professional weapon-mounted lights for service and hunting firearms, as well as powerful stationary and shield-mounted projectors. In 2006, we became the official supplier of tactical lights and projectors to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation.
Besides LED lights, we actively develop laser modules in both visible red (or green) and infra-red spectrums, often combined with visible or infra-red illuminating devices. 
With the appearance of tactical light modules with integrated lasers arose the question of how they were to be mounted reliably onto a firearm, reducing the possibility that the target indicator would shift. The commercially-available AK platform furniture of the time did not guarantee an acceptable level of reliability and stability. For this reason, Zenit Company management approved the development of our own line of railed AK platform furniture now designated as the “Classic” series. Over time, we successfully developed several variants of handguards, optics platforms, muzzle-devices, butt-stocks, and grips that have now become classics, like their namesake, with the use of service and civilian firearms popular inside of the Russian Federation and countries where these arms are imported. In 2015, the “Classic” line was officially accepted for issue to personnel by the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation.  

Our products have earned high praise from operations divisions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, FSB, FSO, and Ministry of Defense. One of the most important aspects of our company’s work is communication with users. Taking into consideration results from field tests and criticism from operatives in the field, we constantly modernize our existing accessories and constantly develop new ones based on feedback. Our company provides warranty and post-warranty services for all of our products, including repairs.
We have our own modern metalworking stations, including metal treatment stands, milling stations, multicoordinate processing centres, coating equipment, qualified personnel, and our own design bureau. All of our products are developed internally by “Zenit” Company. New products are released every quarter year. 
Zenit Company is an international leader in the industry of light, laser, and weapon modification production.
Link Posted: 1/27/2020 6:38:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/27/2020 6:41:53 PM EST by K1rodeoboater]
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Originally Posted By billytehbob:
Ordered a Perst-4 a couple days before I went to survival school, was really hoping I would have it in hand by now, especially with expedited shipping, but last update I've got is it's been processed through PCI 7 in Moscow as of 19Jan
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Mine's been showing as having left there since the 10th. I'm a bit miffed about having paid for the expedited shipping as well, but it is within the projected delivery window. The soonest mine might arrive is Wednesday but realistically I'm expecting the furthest out at this point. My package from Bulgaria is MIA as well for over 50 days. Probably lost at this point or US Customs hates me.
Link Posted: 1/27/2020 6:52:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By K1rodeoboater:
Mine's been showing as having left there since the 10th. I'm a bit miffed about having paid for the expedited shipping as well, but it is within the projected delivery window. The soonest mine might arrive is Wednesday but realistically I'm expecting the furthest out at this point. My package from Bulgaria is MIA as well for over 50 days. Probably lost at this point or US Customs hates me.
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Expedited shipping doesn’t kick in until it reaches the states. The post office then sends it via priority mail express (overnight) after it clears the customs facility. Everything up till that point is the same.
Link Posted: 1/27/2020 8:14:43 PM EST
Ok. I had some time to fiddle with this klesh-2/ak situation.

It will work as is, but I'm going to try to find a way to get the klesh mounted closer to the barrel. I'd prefer a z-bar type rail(if one exists) to replace the mount that came with the klesh.

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Link Posted: 1/28/2020 7:42:59 AM EST
Ordered on the 17th from Zenitco Ebay - it just landed in New York (11 Days).
Link Posted: 1/28/2020 10:03:51 AM EST
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Originally Posted By KPog:

It did not seem to be any more powerful than the MAWL and OTAL-C I had with me. Not sure if it was the conditions or if it was somehow the battery. I was getting ready for a business trip and didn't have access so will have to try it this week and post pictures.
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In for the pics
Link Posted: 1/28/2020 11:04:53 AM EST
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Originally Posted By mickdonaldson:
Ordered on the 17th from Zenitco Ebay - it just landed in New York (11 Days).
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Ordered mine the same day. Hopefully mine isn’t to far behind yours.

Edit: mine is in NY as of 1/29 at 6am.
Link Posted: 1/29/2020 4:48:30 AM EST
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Originally Posted By RIFLEMANIV:

Ordered mine the same day. Hopefully mine isn’t to far behind yours.
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Got another alert last night, that it left New York and is on the way. I assume NY is Customs - mine was there a day? I think its all 'roll of the dice' with over-seas stuff. If it gets here by Fri, that would be, 2 weeks Russia -> my door.
Link Posted: 1/29/2020 11:19:21 AM EST
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Originally Posted By RIFLEMANIV:

Ordered mine the same day. Hopefully mine isn’t to far behind yours.

Edit: mine is in NY as of 1/29 at 6am.
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Same, USPS says it’s in customs right now.
Link Posted: 1/29/2020 5:55:38 PM EST
They must be waiting and opening stuff in batches or something because same here.

USPS

2020-01-29 13:14 ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS), Processed Through Facility -> Your item has been processed through our facility in ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS) at 1:14 pm on January 29, 2020.

2020-01-10 16:56 RUSSIAN FEDERATION, MOSKVA PCI 7, Processed Through Facility

2020-01-08 02:09 Origin Post is Preparing Shipment

2020-01-08 02:09 RUSSIAN FEDERATION, MOSKVA PCI-8 EMS, Processed Through Facility

2020-01-06 17:13 RUSSIAN FEDERATION, Acceptance

Origin - Tracking consuming: 228 ms

2020-01-29 13:14 United States, USJFKA, Import of international mail

2020-01-29 13:09 United States, USJFKA, Processing of international mail, Received by the designated operator

2020-01-29 10:11 United States, USJFKA, Processing of international mail, Processing by designated postal operator
Link Posted: 1/30/2020 8:25:35 PM EST
It looks like the Perst-4P is a way better choice then the Perst-4....

Anyone confirm this?
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