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Posted: 11/14/2020 8:27:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/14/2020 9:57:31 AM EST by Sogan]
Looking to add an IR laser to an MP5. Will most likely move the IR laser to my thermal night hunting rig when needed. Which do you prefer and why?
Perst 1: -slightly larger -looks like it includes a separate pressure pad. Is this correct? -if it has a pressure pad it could go at 3oclock with pressure pad at 9 or 12 oclock -Adjustable beam but says it’s only one wattage level -$150 if you can find it in stock TOR-MINI: -adjustable IR wattage -smaller -$270 -could fit at 9oclock - red circle in photo  " /> |
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Posted: 11/14/2020 9:05:42 AM EST
No IR illum?
TOR so you can reduce bloom. |
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Posted: 11/14/2020 9:12:22 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By lilMAC25: No IR illum? TOR so you can reduce bloom. My shots with the MP5 would be pretty close so I don’t think it’s a requirement. Would be nice to have but I’m not sure an IR/illum come in a small package like those two |
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Posted: 11/14/2020 9:17:37 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Sogan: My shots with the MP5 would be pretty close so I don’t think it’s a requirement. Would be nice to have but I’m not sure an IR/illum come in a small package like those two Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sogan: Originally Posted By lilMAC25: No IR illum? TOR so you can reduce bloom. My shots with the MP5 would be pretty close so I don’t think it’s a requirement. Would be nice to have but I’m not sure an IR/illum come in a small package like those two With the TOR, you can dial the laser down to reduce bloom. OTOH, you can almost buy 2 PERST for the price of one TOR. |
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Posted: 11/14/2020 9:23:23 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By lilMAC25: With the TOR, you can dial the laser down to reduce bloom. OTOH, you can almost buy 2 PERST for the price of one TOR. Without an Illum to reduce the bloom that’s probably pretty important |
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Posted: 11/14/2020 10:24:26 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/17/2020 12:35:08 PM EST by TNVC]
One other, TOR, Made in the USA along with any warranty work if needed in the USA as well.
 Yes, IN STOCK and shipping daily to many. Edit, for the USA warranty work. |
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Posted: 11/14/2020 11:40:06 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By TNVC: One other, TOR, Made in the USA along with any warranty work if needed. Yes, IN STOCK and shipping daily to many. Another huge + in TOR’s favor. |
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Posted: 11/14/2020 12:46:09 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By TNVC: One other, TOR, Made in the USA along with any warranty work if needed. Yes, IN STOCK and shipping daily to many. @TNVC The only issue I see with the TOR is the lack of a lock-out feature in case you accidentally bump it. How would the TOR compare to the Streamlight VIR 2? |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 11/14/2020 2:55:16 PM EST
I don’t know for sure but I’m guessing the Perst weighs WAY more than the TOR
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Posted: 11/14/2020 6:26:02 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By AIWB: I don’t know for sure but I’m guessing the Perst weighs WAY more than the TOR TOR-MINI 1.6oz Perst 1 3.7oz |
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Posted: 11/14/2020 6:37:10 PM EST
Fuckn Tor Bois
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CA, USA
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Posted: 11/14/2020 7:32:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/14/2020 7:33:23 PM EST by MunnyShot]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sogan: My shots with the MP5 would be pretty close so I don’t think it’s a requirement. Would be nice to have but I’m not sure an IR/illum come in a small package like those two For a small footprint look that has both an IR illuminator and IR laser look at the Streamlight TLR VIR II or SureFire X400V-B-IR |
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Posted: 11/14/2020 9:22:16 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By f402mech: @TNVC The only issue I see with the TOR is the lack of a lock-out feature in case you accidentally bump it. How would the TOR compare to the Streamlight VIR 2? Yep, I have a TOR and I wish it had a lockout of some sort. I'd like to stick it on the bottom of a rimfire pistol I carry in the woods a lot and leave it there, but I holster that pistol and I imagine that it would be getting turned on and off a lot in the holster probably. |
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Posted: 11/15/2020 3:18:26 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By PA452: Yep, I have a TOR and I wish it had a lockout of some sort. I'd like to stick it on the bottom of a rimfire pistol I carry in the woods a lot and leave it there, but I holster that pistol and I imagine that it would be getting turned on and off a lot in the holster probably. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA452: Originally Posted By f402mech: @TNVC The only issue I see with the TOR is the lack of a lock-out feature in case you accidentally bump it. How would the TOR compare to the Streamlight VIR 2? Yep, I have a TOR and I wish it had a lockout of some sort. I'd like to stick it on the bottom of a rimfire pistol I carry in the woods a lot and leave it there, but I holster that pistol and I imagine that it would be getting turned on and off a lot in the holster probably. Not had an issue like that. |
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Posted: 11/15/2020 3:29:40 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By TNVC: One other, TOR, Made in the USA along with any warranty work if needed. Yes, IN STOCK and shipping daily to many. Yeah, you can have the TOR in your hands in a few days. The only regret I have is not buying one sooner. |
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Posted: 11/16/2020 8:47:38 AM EST
Being only water "resistant" makes the TOR a no-go for me.
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Posted: 11/16/2020 3:27:34 PM EST
I think a illuminator is always a must have. X400v-IRC or for a really small footprint maybe the XC2-IRC?
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Posted: 11/17/2020 8:34:15 AM EST
Been happy with my TOR.
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Posted: 11/17/2020 10:49:16 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By swimshoot: Being only water "resistant" makes the TOR a no-go for me. Isn’t that all the PERST is as well? |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:13:59 AM EST
I went Perst because of the battery.
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Posted: 11/17/2020 12:38:32 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Steamedliver: I went Perst because of the battery. ? Not being a wise a$$. Just curious. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 2:40:06 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Ranger993: I think a illuminator is always a must have. X400v-IRC or for a really small footprint maybe the XC2-IRC? Those are 2-3x the cost. I agree they are nice but for the mp5 I was just looking for a decent add on without spending a ton |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 3:46:09 PM EST
I got a TOR for use on a pistol.
I liked it. It was easy to hit in the on button, press trigger, and then switch the laser back off. |
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Posted: 11/19/2020 7:47:35 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By lilMAC25: Isn’t that all the PERST is as well? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lilMAC25: Originally Posted By swimshoot: Being only water "resistant" makes the TOR a no-go for me. Isn’t that all the PERST is as well? I have 2 PERST 1s and a PERST 3. I turned one of the -1s on and put it in a sink for 45 minutes, and it works fine. |
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Posted: 11/19/2020 9:28:08 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By TNVC: ? Not being a wise a$$. Just curious. I think you are being disingenuous. CR1/3N vs CR123? |
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Posted: 11/19/2020 3:34:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/19/2020 3:35:56 PM EST by towerofpower94]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swimshoot: I have 2 PERST 1s and a PERST 3. I turned one of the -1s on and put it in a sink for 45 minutes, and it works fine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swimshoot: Originally Posted By lilMAC25: Originally Posted By swimshoot: Being only water "resistant" makes the TOR a no-go for me. Isn’t that all the PERST is as well? I have 2 PERST 1s and a PERST 3. I turned one of the -1s on and put it in a sink for 45 minutes, and it works fine. User name checks out, haha. As to the OP, I don't have a PERST-1 (I do have 2 PERST-2s) but I do have a TOR. I got mine for a PS90 and would go with the TOR for an MP5 as it seems like a pistol caliber carbine mounted IR laser should be lightweight and have a small footprint first and a powerful beam second. Not like you're likely to be taking 300yd shots with that thing and need the extra power of the Ruskie unit. |
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Posted: 11/19/2020 3:54:41 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Steamedliver: I think you are being disingenuous. CR1/3N vs CR123? No Sir, 1/3N everywhere and not expensive at all. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SL14BZL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_t1_RSTTFbPYZMXAT |
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Posted: 11/19/2020 5:23:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/19/2020 6:38:46 PM EST by Steamedliver]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC: No Sir, 1/3N everywhere and not expensive at all. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SL14BZL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_t1_RSTTFbPYZMXAT I suppose if you want to have another battery standard. I don’t. Literally the only benefit of the 1/3N is the size. It’s not that much of an advantage. Even my garage door opener moved to a better battery standard. Edit. I ain’t trying to convince anyone about what power source to use. OP asked A vs B, and I bought the Perst because I didn’t like the 1/3N power source. |
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Posted: 11/19/2020 6:04:59 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Steamedliver: I suppose if you want to have another battery standard. I don’t. Literally the only benefit of the 1/3N is the size. It’s not that much of an advantage. Even my garage door opener moved to a better battery standard. Edit. I ain’t trying to convince anyone about what power sounds to use. OP asked A vs B, and I bought the Perst because I didn’t like the 1/3N power source. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Steamedliver: Originally Posted By TNVC: No Sir, 1/3N everywhere and not expensive at all. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SL14BZL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_t1_RSTTFbPYZMXAT I suppose if you want to have another battery standard. I don’t. Literally the only benefit of the 1/3N is the size. It’s not that much of an advantage. Even my garage door opener moved to a better battery standard. Edit. I ain’t trying to convince anyone about what power sounds to use. OP asked A vs B, and I bought the Perst because I didn’t like the 1/3N power source. All good Brother, never thought any different with your reply. I don't own a Perst nor know much about them so thanks for the education. |
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Posted: 11/19/2020 8:09:19 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By towerofpower94: User name checks out, haha. As to the OP, I don't have a PERST-1 (I do have 2 PERST-2s) but I do have a TOR. I got mine for a PS90 and would go with the TOR for an MP5 as it seems like a pistol caliber carbine mounted IR laser should be lightweight and have a small footprint first and a powerful beam second. Not like you're likely to be taking 300yd shots with that thing and need the extra power of the Ruskie unit. The TOR would be fine on quite a few weapons I can think of. Just not on some of mine. It's no big deal. |
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Posted: 11/19/2020 9:06:34 PM EST
i like my TOR so far. i almost always run it on low to cut down bloom.
And it is Steiner not russian... |
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