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Posted: 1/11/2015 12:23:40 PM EST
I just can't get myself to hit submit on an order for on these 9mm Mak pistols. Anyone have one? Give me the nudge I need to place the order.
Link Posted: 1/11/2015 12:27:01 PM EST
You really want a CZ-82, trust me ;)
Link Posted: 1/11/2015 12:38:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By pgaplayerless:
You really want a CZ-82, trust me ;)
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Yup.
Link Posted: 1/11/2015 1:17:05 PM EST
they are nice pistols.. but IMO not near $300 nice.
Link Posted: 1/11/2015 1:54:25 PM EST
They never have appealed to me. I would rather have a Manurhin Walther PP in .32, and for a pistol in 9mm Mak the Makarov is head and shoulders above the P64.
Link Posted: 1/11/2015 2:50:54 PM EST
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You really do!
Link Posted: 1/11/2015 3:27:43 PM EST
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You want both silly.

Seriously the P 64 I got was from AIM was for all intents unissued . Good shooting little pistol, double action pull is typically long and stiff but single action is quite nice. Can be a bit snappy with 9x18 especially with hot ammo like the hard cast SWC from Buffalo Bore Ammo . I carried it an ankle holster every day for six months when I needed a deep cover weapon to be handy with no problem
Link Posted: 1/11/2015 11:30:56 PM EST
I had a PA-63 for a while. (similar to the P64s) It was a great little gun, and it became my EDC. I ended up selling it and getting my hands on a surplus CZ-82 and it has been my best pistol. I had heard good things about the CZs and I wanted to stick with the MAK round so I wouldn't have to add another caliber to the collection. I then sold the PA-63 and never looked back. I have never had a problem with my CZ, it's very accurate, and with 2 mags a full box of 25 hollow points loads it all the way up.
So, if you're looking to collect, I say go for it: the more the merrier. If you're looking for an inexpensive carry gun: hold off and get a CZ.
Link Posted: 1/12/2015 5:50:50 AM EST
I have both the P64 and the cz82. I prefer the P64 better, more accurate with it. Maybe its the smallish sights. No reason not to have both. The P64 is awesome for concealed carry, but with the cz82, you'd be better off with a G19 since the size is so similar. I really like the cz82 and am not knocking it, but for ccw there are so many other better options for the size of the gun.
Link Posted: 1/12/2015 6:16:47 AM EST
I have the P63, P64, and the CZ82. Collecting, get all of them, inexpensive carry I'd get a used G19, and I did just that.
Link Posted: 1/12/2015 7:14:31 AM EST
Meh, why buy a gun you (MUST) have to change the springs on to make it worth shooting. Do the right thing and order a $200 P-83 from Wideners instead. Leaps and bounds better and still very very concealable.
Link Posted: 1/12/2015 9:50:45 AM EST
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You want both silly.

Seriously the P 64 I got was from AIM was for all intents unissued . Good shooting little pistol, double action pull is typically long and stiff but single action is quite nice. Can be a bit snappy with 9x18 especially with hot ammo like the hard cast SWC from Buffalo Bore Ammo . I carried it an ankle holster every day for six months when I needed a deep cover weapon to be handy with no problem
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Originally Posted By pgaplayerless:
You really want a CZ-82, trust me ;)



You want both silly.

Seriously the P 64 I got was from AIM was for all intents unissued . Good shooting little pistol, double action pull is typically long and stiff but single action is quite nice. Can be a bit snappy with 9x18 especially with hot ammo like the hard cast SWC from Buffalo Bore Ammo . I carried it an ankle holster every day for six months when I needed a deep cover weapon to be handy with no problem


Eh, P64 is undersized snappy pistol with lousy sights and very low capacity that will slide bite anybody with bigger hands. There are better options for fun collectible shooter and there are definitely lot better commercially available choice for carry purposes.
Link Posted: 1/12/2015 9:52:13 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/12/2015 9:52:21 AM EST by Spaxspore]
imo p64 is a fine gun at 120-200. Past that there are to many attractive offers out there.
Link Posted: 1/12/2015 10:34:57 AM EST
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Agreed.
Link Posted: 1/12/2015 12:28:27 PM EST
I've had a P-64 for a while now. Fun little gun, once you get used to shooting it. Light, compact, with a little bit of ass to it. I'd recomend gettting one, but I wouldn't pay much more than $300.

Just did an online search for prices..... Classic was the first one to come up and they are selling them for 239.99 with 2 mags. Get one!
Link Posted: 1/12/2015 2:30:01 PM EST
I just bought one with my new C&R license. Delivered to my front door two days later.

Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but the pistol is in excellent condition. $239 well spent.
Link Posted: 1/12/2015 2:37:17 PM EST
I like the P64, but unless you have plans to adopt other 9mm Mak guns like the CZ82 and others I'm not sure I'd have it as a standalone in the caliber.
Link Posted: 1/12/2015 2:46:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/12/2015 2:49:10 PM EST by hansellhd]
I say get one wile U can, price will only go up as supplies dwindle. The little pistol is tuff as nails!





Picked this one up 5 years ago for $170. (hand pick)

HDH.
Link Posted: 1/12/2015 7:58:07 PM EST
If your going to carry it go for it. For the size and price it's better than any Keltec. As for the CZ82/83's, great guns but for the size and calibers you may as well carry a compact something like a G23. If you just wanna plink with 9x18, go with the CZ. Oh, if you buy a P64 be ready for the second round to go off a split second after the first.
Link Posted: 1/12/2015 8:05:42 PM EST
My main use would be as a center console just in case gun. That's why the price point is about right for me. As a collector, its also another item to add to the group

PS Where did you find those wood grips? If I could get a set of those I think I'd probably buy one, that looks badass
Link Posted: 1/12/2015 9:30:22 PM EST
Then add another $80 on the price. That definitely prices it out of ANY consideration to a sane individual...
Link Posted: 1/13/2015 7:58:49 AM EST
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yep, and after those grips thats where it will be. Close to 350-400.

http://www.marschalgrips.com/
Link Posted: 1/13/2015 8:24:18 AM EST
Used Ruger LCP, S&W bodyguard, Taurus 738, SCCY......all much better BUG platforms
Link Posted: 1/13/2015 8:46:24 AM EST
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Used Ruger LCP, S&W bodyguard, Taurus 738, SCCY......all much better BUG platforms
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Id take a P64 over a SCCY any day but that's my opinion.
Link Posted: 1/13/2015 9:32:57 AM EST
My ex's second pistol was a P-63, I think, it was in .380. I loved the little thing, in fact it started my fascination with small pistols. I think she paid something like $175 for it about 5-6 years ago. She didn't like the d/a pull so she promptly traded it for a Bersa Thunder .380 that she liked much more. I wish she would have taken the subtle hints and given it to me, lol.
Link Posted: 1/13/2015 6:45:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By raygixxer89:
My ex's second pistol was a P-63, I think, it was in .380. I loved the little thing, in fact it started my fascination with small pistols. I think she paid something like $175 for it about 5-6 years ago. She didn't like the d/a pull so she promptly traded it for a Bersa Thunder .380 that she liked much more. I wish she would have taken the subtle hints and given it to me, lol.
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Obviously you were too subtle.
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 1:22:23 AM EST
The one I had was surprisingly accurate. However even after a gunsmith tuned it up and replaced all the springs to make things better and smoother the double action trigger was unusable, single action was great though. Honestly the reason I sold it was the felt recoil, it was honestly painful. But it was a reliable well built pistol.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 4:30:08 PM EST
I was going to CCW with my P64, but it's too damned nice.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 10:45:55 AM EST
The double-action on the P64 is wretched.


I was $180 deep into one, compared it to my Bulgy Mak, and promptly sold the P64 within a week.


I would own another one for $100. No more. They certainly aren't $300 guns.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 11:45:52 AM EST
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Personally I'd get. Look at it as an investment. If the one thing that's a constant the surplus guns are always going up in price and ain't coming down.

JGSales has them for $200
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 1:04:02 PM EST
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i think its already on the high end - with little historical backing, or anything really special about it, i think its about at the end of its $$. I don't see these going for 500+, 1000+ ever.

I would agree that it would be investment grade when they were 120 a few years back. Now at the shadow of 300.. that ship has sailed.

Just my .02 cents

If you got to have it and don't care about the $$ - go for it.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 1:59:49 PM EST
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Obviously you were too subtle.
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Originally Posted By raygixxer89:
My ex's second pistol was a P-63, I think, it was in .380. I loved the little thing, in fact it started my fascination with small pistols. I think she paid something like $175 for it about 5-6 years ago. She didn't like the d/a pull so she promptly traded it for a Bersa Thunder .380 that she liked much more. I wish she would have taken the subtle hints and given it to me, lol.



Obviously you were too subtle.

Thats why she's my ex.
Seriously though, I'd love to find another one. They're pretty small and slim.
ETA: I certainly wouldn't pay 300 for one, though. 250 tops.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 4:06:16 PM EST
I think they're priced too high.
If you do end up buying one do yourself a favor and install a wolf spring kit.
It lessens the hammer hand recoil.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 9:49:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/18/2015 9:50:54 PM EST by BinaryBoris]
Do it.

I bought one from AIM Surplus and it was so nice I had to buy a second so that the first could be my EDC. It's a tad heavy but there's something reassuring to me about all steel pistols. It also completely disappears when carried IWB.

As far as accuracy goes, it far surpasses anything I've been able to get out of my Ruger LCP (which has since been retired as my EDC). I'm at least an average shot and I can get 1-2" groups at 7 yards all day, At 15 yards 4-5" is completely doable. Again, I can't get anywhere close to that with the LCP. Of course YMMV.

The blowback design of the P64 is a bit "snappy" but the weight soaks up recoil much better than the LCP. Toss a hogue grip on it and you're good to go.

DO IT!

My first P64 from AIM Surplus:

http://s25.postimg.org/skyul4s0f/P64_2.jpg

http://s25.postimg.org/lzqpz41jj/P64_8_1.jpg

7 yards:

http://s25.postimg.org/hr0qsgcsv/Screen_Shot_2014_09_27_at_1_42_23_PM.png

15 yards:

http://s25.postimg.org/b1u7cfrgv/Screen_Shot_2014_09_27_at_1_42_42_PM.png
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 9:52:42 PM EST
I should probably add that while it is a bit "snappy" I have no problem putting 50-100 rounds through it in a session. The accuracy for such a small pistol is actually quite amazing IMHO. For just over $200 it's hard not to buy one (or two). On top of that, it just looks damn sexy.
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