Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
BCM
Member Login

Page / 6
Link Posted: 12/12/2019 7:35:46 AM EDT
And in the meantime if anyone wants to make the drive over to Pittsburgh, we have another shoot at 4pm on Dec 28. Not so much running and gunning or creeping through the woods, but we run a couple drills for safety and familiarization and bring plenty of toys to check out and compare. It’s a pretty straightforward gun club range with 300yd.

Link to the club’s FB post.
Link Posted: 12/12/2019 9:00:26 AM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By crossgun:

As I see more groups forming since I started this or at least the desire the default format from them seems to be run and gun and I believe that to be totally wrong to support the gear and technology.  Maybe that's all they know and do when they go to the range. Isn't night vision about stealth?  I know I am typing to myself and no one is listening but I guess I have different ideas on what or how I want my personal NV training to go especially after taking numerous classes from the dudes that actually know and have used the technology while in the shit.

Aiming for either end of February or beginning of March to try and catch that last hour of darkness before the time change but still need to keep an eye on the weather.
View Quote
Agree - I liked starting out in the day, confirming zero, and some familiarization stuff, then moving up from there. Crawl/Walk/Run works. Weather is huge, cold temps just make everything slow and sucky. I was outside at night on like the 15th and said "man, those guys are going to be f'n cold!"
Link Posted: 12/12/2019 10:24:33 AM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By jwramp:
And in the meantime if anyone wants to make the drive over to Pittsburgh, we have another shoot at 4pm on Dec 28. Not so much running and gunning or creeping through the woods, but we run a couple drills for safety and familiarization and bring plenty of toys to check out and compare. It’s a pretty straightforward gun club range with 300yd.

Link to the club’s FB post.
View Quote
I thought about going to that, but I think I'm going to be a pussy and stay out of the cold lol. I'll definitely attend when it starts getting warmer.
Link Posted: 1/5/2020 12:17:59 PM EDT
A little bump for the New Year.
Hope Santa was good to each on you.
Link Posted: 1/12/2020 6:11:10 PM EDT
Does anyone know what make/model that really powerful standalone illuminator that someone brought? I think it may have been one of the PA guys. I seem to remember it being fairly inexpensive and focusable, but I don't remember exactly.
Link Posted: 1/12/2020 8:00:40 PM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By jason99xj:
Does anyone know what make/model that really powerful standalone illuminator that someone brought? I think it may have been one of the PA guys. I seem to remember it being fairly inexpensive and focusable, but I don't remember exactly.
View Quote
I believe it was the armasight msi800 that another member was raving about.
Link Posted: 1/13/2020 9:27:53 AM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By jason99xj:
Does anyone know what make/model that really powerful standalone illuminator that someone brought? I think it may have been one of the PA guys. I seem to remember it being fairly inexpensive and focusable, but I don't remember exactly.
View Quote
It was the UNV 20-IR Illuminator

Here is a link to the beast  https://www.ultimatenightvision.com/20-IR-Infrared-LED-Illuminator-Flashlight-p/unv-20ir.htm
Link Posted: 1/13/2020 10:58:49 AM EDT
If anyone gets something put together in Ohio LMK. I'm in Cincinnati so PA is probably too far of a drive but I could do Cleveland.

Also, TNVC offers a training course in Alliance, OH, I enjoyed it and learned a lot.
Link Posted: 1/13/2020 11:03:00 AM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Spartikis:
If anyone gets something put together in Ohio LMK. I'm in Cincinnati so PA is probably too far of a drive but I could do Cleveland.

Also, TNVC offers a training course in Alliance, OH, I enjoyed it and learned a lot.
View Quote
Did you email crossgun? He is planning more events starting this Spring.
Link Posted: 1/13/2020 11:03:18 AM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By sbye:

Did you email crossgun? He is planning more events starting this Spring.
View Quote
Edit:
In Ohio
Link Posted: 1/13/2020 12:51:45 PM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By sbye:

Did you email crossgun? He is planning more events starting this Spring.
View Quote
Sent him an Email and IM.
Link Posted: 1/13/2020 1:00:26 PM EDT
Sorry to cheat off the OH thread, but the Pgh shoot dates for the next couple months are:

  • Jan 18

  • Feb 22

  • Mar 7



Let me know if anyone is coming out - would be nice to keep connecting faces with names.
Link Posted: 1/13/2020 1:22:32 PM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By jwramp:
Sorry to cheat off the OH thread, but the Pgh shoot dates for the next couple months are:

  • Jan 18

  • Feb 22

  • Mar 7



Let me know if anyone is coming out - would be nice to keep connecting faces with names.
View Quote
I believe March 7th was possibly the next Ohio shoot
Link Posted: 1/13/2020 2:26:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/13/2020 2:30:52 PM EDT by NotDeaf]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By jwramp:
Sorry to cheat off the OH thread, but the Pgh shoot dates for the next couple months are:

  • Jan 18

  • Feb 22

  • Mar 7



Let me know if anyone is coming out - would be nice to keep connecting faces with names.
View Quote
Hey JW - These events are GO events with no cancellations for rain\snow\sleet? aka Jan 18th 95% rain\snow\sleet (oh my )

Sorry, edit "All new shooters must take a competency test with one of our instructors/RSO’s to proceed." for all us couch operators - A little detail? (double down )
Link Posted: 1/13/2020 4:28:29 PM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By NotDeaf:

Hey JW - These events are GO events with no cancellations for rain\snow\sleet? aka Jan 18th 95% rain\snow\sleet (oh my )

Sorry, edit "All new shooters must take a competency test with one of our instructors/RSO’s to proceed." for all us couch operators - A little detail? (double down )
https://i.imgflip.com/1sc9q1.jpg
View Quote
I don’t run the events, I’ve just been helping with ROing a bit and sharing gear. So far we haven’t called any off for weather. There’s a large covered firing line we could camp out at if we don’t want to run around down range in the slop.

It’s very important for new shooters to come on time to run the first drill or two so we can make sure once it gets dark that guys won’t be too much of a liability. I would assume that’s fairly easy to understand. They’re inviting strangers from the internet to a private club to run (ok maybe jog) around with loading rifles in the dark. There’s a waiver and an intro drill done together for familiarization and warmup.
Link Posted: 1/13/2020 6:45:06 PM EDT
I'm definitely interested in this!
Link Posted: 1/13/2020 11:00:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/13/2020 11:01:04 PM EDT by Caeser2001]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By jwramp:
Sorry to cheat off the OH thread, but the Pgh shoot dates for the next couple months are:

  • Jan 18

  • Feb 22

  • Mar 7



Let me know if anyone is coming out - would be nice to keep connecting faces with names.
View Quote
I'm off work this weekend and can make it. I just sent an email to Dan.
Link Posted: 1/14/2020 7:52:03 AM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By jwramp:
Sorry to cheat off the OH thread, but the Pgh shoot dates for the next couple months are:
View Quote
No your not!  DUDE start you own damn thread, cheater!

If this keeps up were going to have to have a good old PA vs Ohio boys NVG battle.  In fact that's it, I will be reaching out to Dan to schedule and set up some rules for such an epic event to happen this fall.  Just know right now I am claiming my two guys from the burgh that started with the founding Ohio group.  You they can have....

Thoughts?  Doesn't this sound like a must do?
Link Posted: 1/14/2020 8:01:01 AM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By crossgun:

No your not!  DUDE start you own damn thread, cheater!

If this keeps up were going to have to have a good old PA vs Ohio boys NVG battle.  In fact that's it, I will be reaching out to Dan to schedule and set up some rules for such an epic event to happen this fall.  Just know right now I am claiming my two guys from the burgh that started with the founding Ohio group.  You they can have....

Thoughts?  Doesn't this sound like a must do?
View Quote
Definitely. Do it in Ohio though because it is closer for me lol.
Link Posted: 1/14/2020 8:03:19 AM EDT
Guys in all seriousness if you can get with the PA guys at Rosedale do it.  I attended the last shoot and everyone was safe, professional and welcoming.  Their program is growing and becoming much more dynamic.  Dan who is hosting and making it happen is a TNVC Nightfighter grad and knows what he is doing and is well supported by JW and a few others.  The club is two hours from me in Akron and well worth the drive.  Remember this is shooting with NODs and there just are not that many options.  You made the investment in the gear so take advantage and stop looking at the stars!
Link Posted: 1/14/2020 8:09:14 AM EDT
Its way to early at this point to commit to the range especially with NE Ohio weather but thoughts are to try and get in an event before the time change.

Looking at Saturday, February 29th so try to plan accordingly for now.
Link Posted: 2/2/2020 9:17:28 AM EDT
Confirmed.  We will be going Dark again on Saturday, February 29th.

email with details to those who are on the list to follow.  If interested and you haven't reached out yet email me at crossgun@neo.rr.com
Link Posted: 2/5/2020 12:00:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/5/2020 12:01:13 AM EDT by sbye]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By crossgun:
Confirmed.  We will be going Dark again on Saturday, February 29th.

email with details to those who are on the list to follow.  If interested and you haven't reached out yet email me at crossgun@neo.rr.com
View Quote
Unfortunately I won't be able to make that one but I am looking at signing up for the TNVC Night Fighter 101 class on March 14th-15th. Anyone else planning on taking that?
Link Posted: 2/5/2020 12:22:43 AM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By sbye:

Unfortunately I won't be able to make that one but I am looking at signing up for the TNVC Night Fighter 101 class on March 14th-15th. Anyone else planning on taking that?
View Quote
You’re gonna love it! A really really great group of guys running the program there and the Alliance facility is a gem to visit.
Link Posted: 2/5/2020 9:43:44 AM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By sbye:

Unfortunately I won't be able to make that one but I am looking at signing up for the TNVC Night Fighter 101 class on March 14th-15th. Anyone else planning on taking that?
View Quote
I'll be there
Link Posted: 2/5/2020 11:50:57 AM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By jwramp:

You’re gonna love it! A really really great group of guys running the program there and the Alliance facility is a gem to visit.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By jwramp:

You’re gonna love it! A really really great group of guys running the program there and the Alliance facility is a gem to visit.
Just signed up. You coming?

Originally Posted By billpete:

I'll be there
I'll see you there. I did send you an email with a few dumb questions.
Link Posted: 2/5/2020 12:12:41 PM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By sbye:
Just signed up. You coming?
View Quote
No plans just yet - my contract to do the photos was just for 2019.

2/22 and 3/7 are the last two night shoots here in PGH that I'll definitely be out at. I'm pretty sure they'll be taking the spring/summer off for the longer days and more scheduled events at that range, so it may be Sep/Oct before they kick off again.
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 7:16:15 AM EDT
Might be a little chilly but planning to do a little NVG work this Saturday, February 29th.

I know that many of you have new gear to sort out so plan to put it through its paces.

If you available to attend and haven't before email me at crossgun@neo.rr.com for details.
Link Posted: 3/1/2020 6:54:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/1/2020 6:57:33 PM EDT by jwramp]
Another great evening out in OH with the gents.



Here's a few screengrabs from the video recorder I had mounted on my binos -









Here's an illustration of the view when trying to shoot through a porthole normally versus by looking through a different hole than the muzzle - lasers make it easy!





@crossgun had quite a few different shooting areas set up that we got to use -















ETA: full gallery is available here
Link Posted: 3/1/2020 7:13:36 PM EDT
Looks like a ton of fun! I'll make it out there sooner or later, but had other obligations this weekend.
Link Posted: 3/1/2020 8:10:12 PM EDT
Awesome pics jw

I was really debating not going but with the time change just around the corner I'm glad I did!
Link Posted: 3/2/2020 9:00:38 AM EDT
No snow!!?? My wife said we got hit with 6" a day or two before, when I called back to MI. Maaaaaan I wish I was there again. Good gallery JW. Nice work (as usual) crossgun :thumbsup:
Link Posted: 3/2/2020 9:23:46 AM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By mickdonaldson:
No snow!!?? My wife said we got hit with 6" a day or two before, when I called back to MI. Maaaaaan I wish I was there again. Good gallery JW. Nice work (as usual) crossgun :thumbsup:
View Quote
Yeah we missed out on the SiOnyx contingency. Everyone was running boring i2 toobs
Link Posted: 3/2/2020 10:01:37 AM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By jwramp:

Yeah we missed out on the SiOnyx contingency. Everyone was running boring i2 toobs
View Quote
Hahahaha!!!! It would have been a test for 30% illumination, for sure

My dual Pro's should arrive in May - see you in Sept! (although I just got my Rugged Razor, so I can night shoot at home now...but the comraderie is the best part, so I'LL BE THERE!, LOL)
Link Posted: 4/24/2020 1:30:48 AM EDT
Count me in for post covid Ohio events!
Link Posted: 4/24/2020 9:34:03 AM EDT
I'm in Southern Indiana, got a few other buddies with NODs that may make a drive. Count me Subscribed.
Link Posted: 4/24/2020 9:52:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/24/2020 9:57:57 AM EDT by Caeser2001]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By jwramp:
Another great evening out in OH with the gents.

https://i.imgur.com/h1VSNpPl.jpg

Here's a few screengrabs from the video recorder I had mounted on my binos -

https://i.imgur.com/E6Kah8Bl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/QzgRefkl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/SN6x3Lsl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/r6aGiacl.jpg


Here's an illustration of the view when trying to shoot through a porthole normally versus by looking through a different hole than the muzzle - lasers make it easy!

https://i.imgur.com/XB80FO6l.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7WuiqUQl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/IDcqtmCl.jpg

@crossgun had quite a few different shooting areas set up that we got to use -

https://i.imgur.com/CoYRWljl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LXbL1l4l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cXI3DGsl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wGkqnXbl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/aFEIFJFl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/yw3KYmcl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hbzr2uhh.jpg

ETA: full gallery is available here
View Quote


Thanks again Crossgun, JW for taking pics and everyone else that made it. Here's a good comparison of myself using a MAWL on low, aiming at the target on the right and I believe the left was the PERST. I remember it being clean with no artifacts. Anyways you can see how much spill there is on the low setting with the MAWL.




https://jwramp.smugmug.com/Shooting-Courses/Feb20-OHNightShoot/i-kzGsVdx/A
Link Posted: 4/24/2020 10:54:05 AM EDT
I am about 20 mins south of Gettysburg so a little far from Pittsburgh or Ohio. If anything is ever set up closer I would love to come out. I will try to keep an eye on this thread.
Link Posted: 4/24/2020 11:24:26 AM EDT
Man, me and a few buddies from Northwest Indiana might try to make it to one of these someday soon. There’s about 5 of us that play at night. I posted up in the indiana gun owners forum about a night shoot and got crickets.... lol.
Link Posted: 4/24/2020 12:08:54 PM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Caeser2001:


Thanks again Crossgun, JW for taking pics and everyone else that made it. Here's a good comparison of myself using a MAWL on low, aiming at the target on the right and I believe the left was the PERST. I remember it being clean with no artifacts. Anyways you can see how much spill there is on the low setting with the MAWL.


https://jwramp.smugmug.com/Shooting-Courses/Feb20-OHNightShoot/i-kzGsVdx/A

https://jwramp.smugmug.com/Shooting-Courses/Feb20-OHNightShoot/i-kzGsVdx/A
View Quote



Your one pic isn't working for me
Link Posted: 4/24/2020 12:10:46 PM EDT
I want to check out other gear more next time for sure. I was too busy wringing my gear out, and freezing.

Link Posted: 4/24/2020 12:18:28 PM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By ARShooter91:



Your one pic isn't working for me
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By ARShooter91:
Originally Posted By Caeser2001:


Thanks again Crossgun, JW for taking pics and everyone else that made it. Here's a good comparison of myself using a MAWL on low, aiming at the target on the right and I believe the left was the PERST. I remember it being clean with no artifacts. Anyways you can see how much spill there is on the low setting with the MAWL.


https://jwramp.smugmug.com/Shooting-Courses/Feb20-OHNightShoot/i-kzGsVdx/A

https://jwramp.smugmug.com/Shooting-Courses/Feb20-OHNightShoot/i-kzGsVdx/A



Your one pic isn't working for me

Maybe this will -

Link Posted: 4/24/2020 4:53:49 PM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By jwramp:
Originally Posted By ARShooter91:
Originally Posted By Caeser2001:


Thanks again Crossgun, JW for taking pics and everyone else that made it. Here's a good comparison of myself using a MAWL on low, aiming at the target on the right and I believe the left was the PERST. I remember it being clean with no artifacts. Anyways you can see how much spill there is on the low setting with the MAWL.


https://jwramp.smugmug.com/Shooting-Courses/Feb20-OHNightShoot/i-kzGsVdx/A

https://jwramp.smugmug.com/Shooting-Courses/Feb20-OHNightShoot/i-kzGsVdx/A



Your one pic isn't working for me

Maybe this will -
https://photos.smugmug.com/Shooting-Courses/Feb20-OHNightShoot/i-kzGsVdx/0/caa0bbdf/L/1080P_20200229_112024-5-L.jpg


Thanks
Link Posted: 6/18/2020 8:22:23 AM EDT
Bumping so this doesn’t get archived. Hope everyone is doing well.
Link Posted: 7/22/2020 1:28:53 PM EDT
Covid bump. Hopefully everyone is doing well.
Link Posted: 8/12/2020 10:06:20 PM EDT
Any idea when the next shoot in Ohio may be? I'd love to get a chance to try out some gear I ordered if it arrives in time. It's difficult to find a place that offers night shooting.
Link Posted: 8/12/2020 10:47:43 PM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By BigBurkeyBoy:
Any idea when the next shoot in Ohio may be? I'd love to get a chance to try out some gear I ordered if it arrives in time. It's difficult to find a place that offers night shooting.
View Quote


X2

I finally got my helmet set up and got a tlr-virII.  So I can do the fun stuff.
Link Posted: 8/12/2020 11:05:23 PM EDT
I’m in for the next one.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:43:14 AM EDT
As of now looking at some dates and should have some details soon.

To be honest with all Im not sure of the direction this might take this fall.  We have a pretty squared away group of guys currently and that allows us to move very efficient throughout the night while up against a STOP shooting time.  The current venue is dynamic and that demands dialed in dudes who know and truly understand their kit.  One so called newbie or someone that just got gear can bring that to a slow roll or halt.  Also there is class size and how that effects all attendees.  It might be time for a basic or beginner session so guys can get qualified and vetted.  We have seen the results of owning the gear and showing up with no understanding of how it works as well as different skill levels and training backgrounds.

First to be clear this is not square range make ready run and gun type stuff under NODs!  IMO there is no learning value in that or practical application plus it just takes forever while most stand around waiting and watching.  We did something like that last time out and the juice wasn't worth the squeeze even though some guys were asking for that.  These outing are more about realistic applications and trying to show you what you dont know as well as the limitations of the technology and where it might fall off for you.

For those truly interested there is a process and questionnaire that must be filled out.  All you need to do is IM me and I can get that to you.  Once completed and vetted you will be added to the group email list.

To the core group, I'm working on some new things.  Don't hesitate either to let me know what you might like to see more of or less of and share with the viewers here what you have gotten from attending.  

With the cost and shortage of ammo currently we need to make each and every shot more purposeful.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 10:47:20 AM EDT
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By crossgun:
As of now looking at some dates and should have some details soon.

View Quote


I was positive this was a no-go this year. I guess Dewine has lightened up, wooohooo!
Page / 6
Top Top