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Link Posted: 9/8/2019 2:07:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jwramp:

While they may not have one of everything from their store on hand for demos, there's almost always at least a few thermal devices there to mess with, and 2-3 staffmembers with a mountain of knowledge between them to steer you in the right direction. If your primary focus is thermal rather than image intensifiers, reaching out to their sister company Night Goggles may be a good idea. I see TNVC as more of the fighting at night sorta crew (NV heavy, with the occasional thermal discussion leaning towards mil-style equipment) and NG as the killing critters at night crew (thermal heavy with experience with all the rifle-mounted and handheld civilian options).
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Perfect! The way people talk about thermal and NVGs, they make it sound like thermal is the end all, be all of wizard eyes. That's why an opportunity to meet up with a group of people sounds so appealing. There is going to be a lot of different stuff on hand to check out.

I appreciate the reference to the class. I am going to put Nightfighter 101 on my training list for next year. I have to work the weekend that it is offered in Oct, so I will catch it next time.
Link Posted: 9/8/2019 2:09:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zac87:

I’m about 45 minutes west of Toledo so a little under 2 hours from you. You’re welcome to mess around with my gear sometime. I’ve got a few different setups.
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Thanks for the offer! I will take you up on that when I have a free weekend in a couple weeks.
Link Posted: 9/14/2019 2:14:18 PM EDT
Mags are loaded and I’m hopping in the car soon. See yinz in a bit, gonna be a nice night!
Link Posted: 9/14/2019 11:22:35 PM EDT
Going awesome out here so far. Walked everyone’s lasers and carbines out to 300yd in the day and night and discovered some serious deficiencies when trying to find both black and white painted steel targets. Many more photos to come!

Link Posted: 9/14/2019 11:31:01 PM EDT
Wish i could have made it!!
Link Posted: 9/15/2019 12:22:38 PM EDT
I don't know who this guy was, but he had the coolest stuff

Link Posted: 9/15/2019 12:36:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mickdonaldson:
I don't know who this guy was, but he had the coolest stuff

https://i.imgur.com/tQcBs9E.jpg
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Looks like a fellow butterball with cool toys.

What lady wouldn’t want a piece of that action?
Link Posted: 9/15/2019 12:42:08 PM EDT
This was a great "not a training class'!!! Crossgun and adjunct "not instructors" went above and beyond - 100% professional, zero needless downtime, well planned breaks, etc.. 10 hours of Grade A info and activities. I'd like to thank the local BFE LEO that followed me for two miles, but decided I didn't need pulling over at 0230hrs
Link Posted: 9/15/2019 12:51:07 PM EDT
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Looks like a good turnout!

Got my time off approved for the next one.

Plan on taking the Jeep and camping

Coming in from Detroit so I figure make a weekend of it.
Link Posted: 9/15/2019 12:56:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheHorta:

Looks like a fellow butterball with cool toys.

What lady wouldn’t want a piece of that action?
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I too have a better half that has refused to leave me thus far. Although she's learned to always call dibs on the panos first whenever we're stargazing in the backyard...

Link Posted: 9/15/2019 1:36:41 PM EDT
Here's a couple shots from last night. Many thanks to the guys that actually showed up - lotta talk about fancy gear around these parts, but it always seems tough to find guys willing to bring it out and use it for real. Tons of learning happened and for a group of complete strangers from the internet, it was a super safe and friendly event.

One note - while the full moon helped for sure once it rose above the horizon, I shot most of these at around ISO 16,000 so it definitely wasn't this bright to the naked eye.



















Link Posted: 9/15/2019 1:38:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jwramp:
Here's a couple shots from last night. Many thanks to the guys that actually showed up - lotta talk about fancy gear around these parts, but it always seems tough to find guys willing to bring it out and use it for real. Tons of learning happened and for a group of complete strangers from the internet, it was a super safe and friendly event.

One note - while the full moon helped for sure once it rose above the horizon, I shot most of these at around ISO 16,000 so it definitely wasn't this bright to the naked eye.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48737964283_26c34200bc_b.jpg

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Nice. It’s always good to get out and learn.
Link Posted: 9/15/2019 2:18:15 PM EDT
Looks like it was a great night, hope to make up there sometime
Link Posted: 9/15/2019 7:47:32 PM EDT
First I would like to thank those who attended for their safety and professionalism.  As JW noted, pretty amazing to think that some unknown random dudes from here could actually get together and safely function.  Just what in the hell was I originally thinking?  It definitely says something special about the NVG community and their commitment.

Hopefully we presented a venue that allowed you guys to better understand not only your personal abilities but the limitations of the technology and the specific gear and kit you selected.

We are already working on the October outing and looking forward to going dark sooner.
Link Posted: 9/15/2019 7:59:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mickdonaldson:
This was a great "not a training class'!!! Crossgun and adjunct "not instructors" went above and beyond - 100% professional, zero needless downtime, well planned breaks, etc.. 10 hours of Grade A info and activities. I'd like to thank the local BFE LEO that followed me for two miles, but decided I didn't need pulling over at 0230hrs
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Glad you made it home safe and BFE LEO just knew better.  I can imagine how that stop may have went had he asked whats in the truck?

I know it was a really long day for all of you with drive times to and from especially after being in full kit for hours upon hours and covering the ground we did.  Hopefully everyone got some rest today before heading back to the rat race tomorrow.
Link Posted: 9/15/2019 8:42:23 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/15/2019 9:59:05 PM EDT
Agreed with the other comments. A big thanks to everyone that was there, true professionalism to each of you. A big thanks @crossgun for putting this together. I lot of great lessons learned over the course of the night. Being able to test the limits of your equipment in night environment at the perfect venue, is truly priceless.

Quote up the bird box meme for me at 225 & 275 meters out… without a higher end IR illuminator to identify the steel targets. Again, where can go to shoot at that distance with NVGs?


Thanks to @jwramp for bring your equipment to look through and taking the great pictures.
Link Posted: 9/15/2019 10:51:25 PM EDT
I had a great time. Thanks for all of the effort put in to put this together and make it a great, safe, night. My wallet will be a bit lighter after I order a MAWL this week The space and distance at the club was awesome as well. I can't wait for October.

JW, what was the group name again for the fox chapel club/shoot you mentioned last night?
Link Posted: 9/15/2019 11:02:28 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/15/2019 11:23:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Caeser2001:
JW, what was the group name again for the fox chapel club/shoot you mentioned last night?
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Here’s the page on the club’s site, but it looks like the first shoot in Nov hasn’t hit their calendar yet. Just checked with the organizer and he said he’ll put it up on their Facebook page too eventually. Feel free to email me to keep in closer contact about it.

https://www.rosedalesportsmen.org/night-shoot/
Link Posted: 9/15/2019 11:28:10 PM EDT
Nice any one got info on anything going in PA relating to NV
Link Posted: 9/16/2019 10:52:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jwramp:
Here’s the page on the club’s site, but it looks like the first shoot in Nov hasn’t hit their calendar yet. Just checked with the organizer and he said he’ll put it up on their Facebook page too eventually. Feel free to email me to keep in closer contact about it.

https://www.rosedalesportsmen.org/night-shoot/
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Originally Posted By Caeser2001:
JW, what was the group name again for the fox chapel club/shoot you mentioned last night?
Here’s the page on the club’s site, but it looks like the first shoot in Nov hasn’t hit their calendar yet. Just checked with the organizer and he said he’ll put it up on their Facebook page too eventually. Feel free to email me to keep in closer contact about it.

https://www.rosedalesportsmen.org/night-shoot/
Will do. Thanks and thanks for taking the time to take pics.

Edit:

I have an idea for the October class that can be done after the 10:00pm cutoff time for shooting. The idea is for identifying shoot/no shoot targets and detail of just random objects that we can find laying around or that we have in our vehicles, tire iron, umbrella, hang a rifle off of one of the target, duct tape a handgun to another target, etc. Start at maybe 15 yards and going out until noone can identify anything.

I sent an email to cross gun about this but figured I'd post this here too so that we can all put our collective minds together and get our brains churning.

And really, this can be done by others that can't attend in their own backyard.
Link Posted: 9/16/2019 1:07:49 PM EDT
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Unfortunately northern Ohio was a little too far for me here in central KY, but looks like an incredible time.

I believe there have been a few guys in KY mentioning interest - I have access to a night friendly range in central KY where I have participated in informal night get togethers and would love to organize a group in KY for a similar experience, and have access to a full fleet of rental NV gear (whole kits) for anybody who is interested but doesn't have the gear yet.

@crossgun now seeing the success of this in Ohio, if you would like to work to coordinate with other states let me know, or I can try to get a KY group off the ground for now and then maybe we combine at a mutually convenient locale in the future somewhere in souther OH or northern KY in the future?
Link Posted: 9/16/2019 6:02:29 PM EDT
I’d be willing to get something going here in western NC. Near the Asheville area. Might be a range fee involved (not my range), but I’d be glad to try to get it going.
Link Posted: 9/16/2019 9:52:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hill_monkey:
Looks like it was a great night, hope to make up there sometime
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Now I have even more to look forward to when I get home.  Damn that looks fun
Link Posted: 9/17/2019 5:21:16 AM EDT
Anyone else "Combat Ineffective" on Sunday? LOL! Was walking around like a 90 year old man (which is only 39 years away, for me, hahahaha!) I'm blaming the 7 hours of driving
Link Posted: 9/17/2019 9:08:06 AM EDT
I am interested in joining/helping if there is demand to run this again. I’m by DC, where did this end up going down?
Link Posted: 9/17/2019 5:37:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DannerTrax:
I am interested in joining/helping if there is demand to run this again. I’m by DC, where did this end up going down?
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NE Ohio.  There will be an October and November outing.  email me for details crossgun@neo.rr.com
Link Posted: 9/17/2019 10:07:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mickdonaldson:
Anyone else "Combat Ineffective" on Sunday? LOL! Was walking around like a 90 year old man (which is only 39 years away, for me, hahahaha!) I'm blaming the 7 hours of driving
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It was probably from napping in the bed of the truck prior to gunning in gear for 8hrs lol.
Link Posted: 9/18/2019 8:49:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jasons024:

It was probably from napping in the bed of the truck prior to gunning in gear for 8hrs lol.
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Hahahaha! Insert 10 ROTFL Emojis, here --->
Link Posted: 9/18/2019 8:51:22 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/26/2019 5:19:23 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/15/2019 5:46:19 AM EDT
Going Dark this Saturday!  Weather looks great and if your interested reach out to me at crossgun@neo.rr.com

STOP looking at the stars in your backyard and get out and train with that huge investment you made.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 8:58:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By crossgun:

STOP looking at the stars in your backyard and get out and train with that huge investment you made.
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Funny... I don't see stars with mine???
Link Posted: 10/16/2019 12:22:59 PM EDT
can't wait. even if still waiting for my 4G echo WP to show up    from tnvc who have been outstanding with CS thus far.
Link Posted: 10/16/2019 12:50:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By westernhaikus1:
Unfortunately northern Ohio was a little too far for me here in central KY, but looks like an incredible time.

I believe there have been a few guys in KY mentioning interest - I have access to a night friendly range in central KY where I have participated in informal night get togethers and would love to organize a group in KY for a similar experience, and have access to a full fleet of rental NV gear (whole kits) for anybody who is interested but doesn't have the gear yet.

@crossgun now seeing the success of this in Ohio, if you would like to work to coordinate with other states let me know, or I can try to get a KY group off the ground for now and then maybe we combine at a mutually convenient locale in the future somewhere in souther OH or northern KY in the future?
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@westernhaikus1

Where at in central KY?

I'm not far in the eastern part. a couple buddies of mine have nods and we goof around on abandon strip mines.
Link Posted: 10/16/2019 6:15:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xLucidx:

@westernhaikus1

Where at in central KY?

I'm not far in the eastern part. a couple buddies of mine have nods and we goof around on abandon strip mines.
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I’m in Lexington but the range I use is in Lancaster. I’m PM’ing you.
Link Posted: 10/20/2019 5:05:05 PM EDT
Had a blast in Ohio over the weekend!



I got to do stuff with my nods that I've never done before.



Obviously we did some stuff before the sun went down as well....









Link Posted: 10/20/2019 6:58:28 PM EDT
Hey brother glad you could make it and got to experience what you can actually achieve and what maybe you cant with your NVG's and support equipment.

We had another great outing and perfect night for NODs.  Learning is obviously occurring with some previous participants sporting new gear, and some waiting on order, after seeing the limitations of their original kit.

Great to have all you!  I'm continued to be amazed by the safety and professionalism of all in attendance. Its always a pleasure to see guys who don't know each other gel and confidently work together especially in the dark and under NVGs.

Hope to see you all back in November.
Link Posted: 10/20/2019 8:00:10 PM EDT
I'm bummed I couldn't make the first two. I will see you guys in November!
Link Posted: 10/20/2019 8:53:29 PM EDT
Huge props to everyone who helped organize yesterday's night vision outing.  Actually being able to shoot at varying distances and in varying positions in the dark was eye opening regarding technique, awareness, and gear selection.  Turns out that clearing your apartment in the dark isn't exactly a substitute for doing it live, especially when working a drill in tandem with other guys.  Fun, safe, and informative, especially considering we were all looking through straws.
Link Posted: 10/21/2019 3:34:20 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Drastik:
Had a blast in Ohio over the weekend!

https://i.imgur.com/6ulXWyd.jpg

I got to do stuff with my nods that I've never done before.

https://i.imgur.com/yif1Cpl.jpg

Obviously we did some stuff before the sun went down as well....

https://i.imgur.com/sVA8E5T.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Fci3Sxn.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qMup7Fx.mp4

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I know exactly what range that is! Can’t remember the name of it but the backstop is very familiar. Been there for most of the Paul E Paloozas.
I had no idea about this and I was in Chagrin Falls this weekend with my kit. Damn.
Link Posted: 10/21/2019 6:03:45 AM EDT
Its Southington Hunt Club

Hows that new Wilcox mount working for you?

Now that you know come join us over Thanksgiving weekend for our last outing of the year.  I will get you the info via email.
Link Posted: 10/21/2019 7:23:54 AM EDT
NICE! Cool addition to the event schedule! :thumbsup:
Link Posted: 10/21/2019 9:58:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By westernhaikus1:

I’m in Lexington but the range I use is in Lancaster. I’m PM’ing you.
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Nice, my gf is building a house in Richmond so thats only about 35 minutes from Lancaster.

I'll have to get up with you one weekend when the house is done and we'll shoot some stuff.

My other buddy with nods is about 2.5 hours from lexington but there is substantially more area to goof around and shoot. closest house is probably 6-8 miles away and its all hills so banking shots is no problem.
Link Posted: 10/21/2019 9:07:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xLucidx:

Nice, my gf is building a house in Richmond so thats only about 35 minutes from Lancaster.

I'll have to get up with you one weekend when the house is done and we'll shoot some stuff.

My other buddy with nods is about 2.5 hours from lexington but there is substantially more area to goof around and shoot. closest house is probably 6-8 miles away and its all hills so banking shots is no problem.
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Is your buddy and main spot West or East of Lex? I am regularly out east for family stuff and almost always take nods with me.
Link Posted: 10/21/2019 9:45:30 PM EDT
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Thanks again cross gun and everyone that came. Another great night night. Hopefully the cars are still there next month.
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 1:41:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Caeser2001:
Thanks again cross gun and everyone that came. Another great night night. Hopefully the cars are still there next month.
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The cars were a fun surprise, really hope they are still there next time. Big thanks to crossgun for putting this on and hope to see everyone again next month.
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 9:34:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By westernhaikus1:

Is your buddy and main spot West or East of Lex? I am regularly out east for family stuff and almost always take nods with me.
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PM sent.
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 6:47:27 PM EDT
Yes, I agree with you @Drastik we "Had a blast". - Thanks for posting the pictures.
I think everyone's equipment was tested. Everyone seen what worked and what didn't. Malfunctions. Law enforcement requirements for night Ops (insert Ray Charles gif), my score was a D- for sure.

If you have access to Chris Costa's Instagram ... seems vaguely familiar - Same place, Same Trucks but will air in the tires.
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