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Posted: 8/16/2015 1:08:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/16/2015 1:18:35 PM EST by CrazyMedicMike]
Well folks I am officially out of my element here. I recently purchased a large part of a collection from the family of a surplus dealer and ended up with a boatload of night vision gear. From my limited knowledge it looks like there is a metric ton of PVS4 amplifier tubes, PVS 14 tubes, PVS7 tubes, PVS5, 7, and 14 bodies, lenses, and other parts. Vehicle mounted systems, tubes for god knows what kind of gear, ANVIS parts, and even more that I cant figure out. I figured everyone here might enjoy helping me identify and sort the majority of the parts as well as provide me the background on some of it. I will be posting pics to the thread as I dig gear out from the nooks and crannies its been calling home for the past 15 years. I hope y'all enjoy. Here is round one, let me know what you think.

**I am particularly looking for info in regards to the Agema unit. I believe it is a vehicle mountable thermal but info seems to be scarce. The large tubes as well as the monocular in pic 13 are proving tough to get info on as well.**

-CMM


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Link Posted: 8/16/2015 2:18:07 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/16/2015 4:23:03 PM EST
This should be a fun/cool project. Are you going to build and fix these units, or sell them?
Link Posted: 8/16/2015 4:51:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/16/2015 4:52:51 PM EST by AlmightyTallest]
Agema Thermovision 1000 info here: http://support.flir.com/DocDownload/Assets/65/English/557102$C.pdf

At least I think this is the system you might have.


Monocular in photo 13 reminds me of the old NAIT pocket scopes. Model NVPS-10



Link Posted: 8/16/2015 5:54:54 PM EST
At the moment I am leaning towards concentrating on getting a pair of PVS14s up and running with the potential for a dual setup. I just got done testing the 14 style tubes and to my surprise they all fired up. Most of them have some type of blemish / imperfection but as users they should be great. A lot of the gear is new to me so once I get a good idea on value I plan on letting some go.

Almighty, you rock. It looks like ill have some reading material for the evening. As far as the monocular goes Im pretty sure its a Litton M911. It has a bunch of lenses but I am missing the eye piece so I can't get a good focused image. The tube seems to be awesome, if removal is possible I might look into a transplant.
Link Posted: 8/16/2015 5:55:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Agema Thermovision 1000 info here: http://support.flir.com/DocDownload/Assets/65/English/557102$C.pdf

At least I think this is the system you might have.


Monocular in photo 13 reminds me of the old NAIT pocket scopes. Model NVPS-10



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It does look just like NAIT's pocket scope. NAIT built the pocket scope in hopes to win the PVS 14 contract.
Link Posted: 8/16/2015 6:01:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Agema Thermovision 1000 info here: http://support.flir.com/DocDownload/Assets/65/English/557102$C.pdf

At least I think this is the system you might have.


Monocular in photo 13 reminds me of the old NAIT pocket scopes. Model NVPS-10



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Interesting that the document you found even had the protocol specs, so even if the remote controller is (is it?) missing one could code uo a little program to command the camera assuming it's alive in other ways. Just need to dig up an old PC with a RS232 port.
Link Posted: 8/16/2015 6:11:12 PM EST
Lots of stuff there to keep you busy for a while. Very cool acquisition! I'd be geeking out hardcore with that stuff around.
Link Posted: 8/16/2015 7:16:01 PM EST
Some of those mx-11769's PVS-14 tubes look like they are missing pigtails. They will still fire up without the pigtail, but you'll run into some major performance issues running them like that. you can either get new pigtails and solder them on, or you can solder a resister over the contacts and remove the manual gain feature.

really cool find. i bet you could sell some of the parts off and pick up a sentinel or mod-3 and get a true dual setup going. If it all works, you have enough there to work yourself into a very nice dual tube setup loaded out with helmet, mount, and IR laser.

We can walk you through most of the process. Are there PVS-14 objective lenses in the lot? I didn't see any. Were there also MX-10130 PVS-7 tubes?

And yeah - it looks like a litton M911 with a commercial lens kit.
Link Posted: 8/16/2015 7:39:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By chosos:
Some of those mx-11769's PVS-14 tubes look like they are missing pigtails. They will still fire up without the pigtail, but you'll run into some major performance issues running them like that. you can either get new pigtails and solder them on, or you can solder a resister over the contacts and remove the manual gain feature.

really cool find. i bet you could sell some of the parts off and pick up a sentinel or mod-3 and get a true dual setup going. If it all works, you have enough there to work yourself into a very nice dual tube setup loaded out with helmet, mount, and IR laser.

We can walk you through most of the process. Are there PVS-14 objective lenses in the lot? I didn't see any. Were there also MX-10130 PVS-7 tubes?

And yeah - it looks like a litton M911 with a commercial lens kit.
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What kind of issues will I be looking at with the trimmed tubes? Variable gain obviously won't be possible but will there be many other downfalls?
Link Posted: 8/16/2015 8:37:13 PM EST
SO JELLY.

I wish i could dig through all that stuff :(
I could piece together so much crap
Link Posted: 8/16/2015 9:12:29 PM EST
The silver image tubes in pic 13 are from the M60's Tank Thermal Sight. According to this thread they are supposed to be Gen 2? Link.

You also have a lot of image tubes for the VVS-2, aka Driver's night vision viewer. They are AN/PVS-4 tubes with a fiber optic bundle on the back to double the size of the image. They may be hard to use in other projects?

Does look like a good haul.
Link Posted: 8/16/2015 11:17:39 PM EST
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What kind of issues will I be looking at with the trimmed tubes? Variable gain obviously won't be possible but will there be many other downfalls?
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Originally Posted By chosos:
Some of those mx-11769's PVS-14 tubes look like they are missing pigtails. They will still fire up without the pigtail, but you'll run into some major performance issues running them like that. you can either get new pigtails and solder them on, or you can solder a resister over the contacts and remove the manual gain feature.

really cool find. i bet you could sell some of the parts off and pick up a sentinel or mod-3 and get a true dual setup going. If it all works, you have enough there to work yourself into a very nice dual tube setup loaded out with helmet, mount, and IR laser.

We can walk you through most of the process. Are there PVS-14 objective lenses in the lot? I didn't see any. Were there also MX-10130 PVS-7 tubes?

And yeah - it looks like a litton M911 with a commercial lens kit.



What kind of issues will I be looking at with the trimmed tubes? Variable gain obviously won't be possible but will there be many other downfalls?

The tube wont function properly. The ones i had with snipped tails had lots of scintillation and looked like they were okay, but once you got them somewhere dark, they were so pixellated that you couldn't see anything. Once the pigtail was fixed, they worked perfectly.

Get them all fixed, so you know what you're working with.
Link Posted: 8/17/2015 9:26:02 AM EST
In that case I guess Ill be looking for a tube guru to give me a hand with some of these. I did a bit more digging last night and came away with a pair of MX10160 tubes, this dual 14 idea is gaining some traction. Here are a few more pics for the horde, enjoy.





Link Posted: 8/17/2015 11:31:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/17/2015 11:31:53 AM EST by Augee]
Ugh... why don't I ever "stumble" onto this kind of stuff?

Great score, OP!

~Augee
Link Posted: 8/18/2015 10:08:56 AM EST
Alrighty, while Im waiting on a few PVS14 parts to come in the next project is going to be this Agema. Has anyone used one o these before? It looks like an old vehicle mounted unit with a "windshield wiper" for the front lens. Any ideas as to a rough value?
Link Posted: 8/18/2015 12:45:30 PM EST
I hate you right now.
Link Posted: 8/18/2015 12:54:21 PM EST
Awesome score!
Link Posted: 8/18/2015 3:38:27 PM EST
Have you tried firering up the MX10160's yet? Didn't recognize the cage code so went digging. Varian made those and the price for the very first tubes cost the DOD something like $15,000+ a piece. OUCH!
Link Posted: 8/19/2015 11:08:27 AM EST
Yep, I was able to get them up and the images are pretty great. 15K is some crazy money, back in the day those bad boys must have made our snake eaters feel like predator at night. I managed to get a few PVS14 kits ordered so I should hopefully have these running some time next week.

On a side not the VVS-2 amp assemblies make a whole lot more sense now....

Link Posted: 8/20/2015 1:39:28 PM EST
Finally got some shots through the MX11769 tubes. It looks like some could work well for the project that I have in mind but others definitely have some city miles on them. Thanks to another member here I have a pretty good handle on their info as well. Enjoy!

- Tube 1





PVS-14 #1
1999 Omni V - Thin film - Could be autogated?
Manual Gain


-Tube 2





PVS-14 #2
1999 Omni IV - Thick Film
Manual Gain


-Tube 4





PVS-14 #4
2001 Omni V - Thin film - Could be autogated?
Manual Gain


-Tube 5





PVS-14 #5
2001 Omni V - Thin film - Could be autogated?
Manual Gain







-Tube 6





PVS-14 #6
1999 Omni V - Thin film - Could be autogated?
Manual Gain


-Tube 7





PVS-14 #7
2000 Omni V - Thin film - Could be autogated?
Manual Gain


-Tube 8





PVS-14 #8
1999 Omni V - Thin film - Could be autogated?
Manual Gain


-Tube 9





PVS-14 #9
1998 Omni V - Thick film
Manual Gain


-Tube 10





PVS-14 #10
Manual Gain
Link Posted: 8/20/2015 8:51:11 PM EST
Are the imperfections in those tubes permanent?
Link Posted: 8/21/2015 3:54:01 AM EST
For the most part, yes. The imperfections are caused by damage to the phosphor coating and is unreparable.
Link Posted: 8/21/2015 9:45:43 AM EST
What burns a perfect line in a tube like some of those? Lasers?
Link Posted: 8/21/2015 11:28:06 AM EST
Id be interested in an answer to that as well. Ive seen y fair share of damaged tubes but there has never been a great answer as to why the imperfections appear the way they do.
Link Posted: 8/21/2015 11:58:45 AM EST
Those sure look like laser burns to me.

Link Posted: 8/22/2015 12:50:53 AM EST
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Those sure look like laser burns to me.

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That was my guess as well.
Link Posted: 8/22/2015 11:41:41 AM EST
tube 4 looks dropped.

Trust me, i know...
Link Posted: 8/22/2015 5:44:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By pbjunkiee:
tube 4 looks dropped.

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Ouch, not sure I want to know.


On a side note I think I have hit the ANVIS lens mother load (if I am correct and looking at these right). Visions of dual tubes are dancing in my head...

Link Posted: 8/23/2015 5:05:23 AM EST
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Those sure look like laser burns to me.

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When did LIF's come out?
Link Posted: 8/23/2015 6:25:25 AM EST
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Ouch, not sure I want to know.


On a side note I think I have hit the ANVIS lens mother load (if I am correct and looking at these right). Visions of dual tubes are dancing in my head...

<a href="http://s478.photobucket.com/user/bevisblack/media/ANVIS%20Lenses.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/bevisblack/ANVIS%20Lenses.jpg</a>
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Originally Posted By CrazyMedicMike:
Originally Posted By pbjunkiee:
tube 4 looks dropped.

Trust me, i know...



Ouch, not sure I want to know.


On a side note I think I have hit the ANVIS lens mother load (if I am correct and looking at these right). Visions of dual tubes are dancing in my head...

<a href="http://s478.photobucket.com/user/bevisblack/media/ANVIS%20Lenses.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/bevisblack/ANVIS%20Lenses.jpg</a>


Looking forward to seeing some cheap anvis lenses on the EE for a build that I'm doing!
Link Posted: 8/24/2015 9:13:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2015 9:14:42 AM EST by CrazyMedicMike]
Houston, we've got PVS7 parts...

I think I have dug out all of the PVS5 parts too, Ill get some pics of those up later today.










Link Posted: 8/31/2015 11:27:40 AM EST
PVS5 parts fresh from the pile. Some of the eye pieces are still NIW, awesome!











Link Posted: 8/31/2015 1:47:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By pbjunkiee:
tube 4 looks dropped.

Trust me, i know...
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That was my first thought as well. I've got a tube in my pile o parts that looks exactly the same. Landed lens down on concrete.
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