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Posted: 12/14/2005 9:30:30 AM EDT
Picked up the Spanish CETME for $319 and just evilized it and added new Tapco wood (original wood was beat up). Works flawless.

Picked up an Imbel FAL carbine from a private seller for $625. Shoots great.

Have had my DPMS AP4 .308 for a few months now, shoots great.

Picked up a Kreb's KTR-03S this week, hope to take it to the range soon.

Sorry for the dark pics.





Link Posted: 12/14/2005 9:43:26 AM EDT
Looking good.

Will Krebs ever make a .308 or 7.62X54 AK??
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 9:47:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By UZI4you:
Looking good.

Will Krebs ever make a .308 or 7.62X54 AK??



Not now. They used to do Saiga .308 conversions to M14 mags.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 11:31:41 AM EDT
What are the Krebs going for these days?
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 1:37:47 PM EDT
$1150 with vltor stock or $1000 with standard stock....can buy at Rguns.net and your gonna love the KTR great rifles
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 1:45:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By UZI4you:
Looking good.

Will Krebs ever make a .308 or 7.62X54 AK??



WRONG.

I figured out why they won't do the conversions anymore, its cause teh greedy bastards have just put a 308 (finally) in their catalogue....

no M14 mag conversions MY ASS.

To say I was incensed when I saw this, after ofering them ALOT of money and all the time they needed for this only to be told that QUOTE it couldn't be done QUOTE it's not feasible QUOTE we do not work with 308 - and then they put this on their site for a measly 1700$, I asked them should I buy a vepr or saiga and they said they couldn't work with either. I said I've seen krebs 308 AK conversions, they said they don't do them anymore.

yada yada...

It'll be a loooong time before I buy a krebs product....



KCI "COUNTER-SNIPER" RIFLE
CATALOG NUMBER 50
$1,700.00
NUMBER IN STOCK: 1

CALIBER: 7.62x51mm

SYSTEM OF OPERATION: GAS

CYCLIC RATE: SEMIAUTOMATIC
BARREL: 23"

WEIGHT: 8.5 LBS

OVERALL LENGTH: 44"
MAGAZINE: GALIL BOX
FEATURES: Built on a VEPR receiver. Converted to 7.62mmNATO Galil magazines. Two stage trigger, beautiful laminated wood, scope rail and Old English butt pad. Stock pitch adjusted for scope use. Comes with two 7.62mm NATO Galil magazines with M14 followers.




Link Posted: 12/15/2005 3:36:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2005 3:38:06 PM EDT by hartzpad]

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:

Originally Posted By UZI4you:
Looking good.

Will Krebs ever make a .308 or 7.62X54 AK??



WRONG.

I figured out why they won't do the conversions anymore, its cause teh greedy bastards have just put a 308 (finally) in their catalogue....

no M14 mag conversions MY ASS.

To say I was incensed when I saw this, after ofering them ALOT of money and all the time they needed for this only to be told that QUOTE it couldn't be done QUOTE it's not feasible QUOTE we do not work with 308 - and then they put this on their site for a measly 1700$, I asked them should I buy a vepr or saiga and they said they couldn't work with either. I said I've seen krebs 308 AK conversions, they said they don't do them anymore.

yada yada...

It'll be a loooong time before I buy a krebs product....



KCI "COUNTER-SNIPER" RIFLE
CATALOG NUMBER 50
$1,700.00
NUMBER IN STOCK: 1

CALIBER: 7.62x51mm

SYSTEM OF OPERATION: GAS

CYCLIC RATE: SEMIAUTOMATIC
BARREL: 23"

WEIGHT: 8.5 LBS

OVERALL LENGTH: 44"
MAGAZINE: GALIL BOX
FEATURES: Built on a VEPR receiver. Converted to 7.62mmNATO Galil magazines. Two stage trigger, beautiful laminated wood, scope rail and Old English butt pad. Stock pitch adjusted for scope use. Comes with two 7.62mm NATO Galil magazines with M14 followers.



www.krebscustom.com/RawPhotos/10-17-05/countersniper.jpg



Yes, that .308 has been on their website for a number of months now. I'm not sure if it is one of their "production" guns or just a one-off that they need to sell like some of the other guns listed on their site. That is why I didn't include it as one of their "production" .308's. I think it must be a one-off because there haven't been .308 VEPR's in stock at Robarms for months now.

Also, I wonder what that 23" barrel is from, because VEPR's never came to the U.S. with a 23" barrel and neither did Saigas or Yugo .308 AK's. Makes you wonder.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 3:49:48 PM EDT
Allright I've calmed down now. I like em, but its just not fair that the mag conversion CAN be done, but they WONT do it. And their excuse of 'we can't do it with 100% functionality guaranteed' is negated by the rifle above. They are good people there and wouldn't sell a faulty product, which means it must work.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 6:06:22 AM EDT
Does the CETME take non wood furniture?
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 9:17:27 AM EDT
Is the Krebs KTR-03S some kind of Valmet copy?
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 9:43:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mtchristman:
Is the Krebs KTR-03S some kind of Valmet copy?



tween me and you, I'd say its superior, specially if they made a 556 one.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 2:24:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:

Originally Posted By mtchristman:
Is the Krebs KTR-03S some kind of Valmet copy?



tween me and you, I'd say its superior, specially if they made a 556 one.



SSHHH be careful where you say that. The guy who spent $2500 on a Valmet might hear you. I've been eyeballing the Valmets for awhile now and there just isn't very many deals out there. To bad you can't get the Krebs in 5.56.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 3:34:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fiend:
Does the CETME take non wood furniture?



Yes, standard G3/HK91 slim and wide forearms work with very little trimming as well as the buttstocks with no mods.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 3:35:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mtchristman:
Is the Krebs KTR-03S some kind of Valmet copy?



No, it would be better if I didn't want a real Valmet so bad. Can't beat the difference in price between a $3000 7.62x39 Valmet and a KTR-03S for $999.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 5:14:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By hartzpad:

Originally Posted By fiend:
Does the CETME take non wood furniture?



Yes, standard G3/HK91 slim and wide forearms work with very little trimming as well as the buttstocks with no mods.



Excuse my cetme ignorance, but arent they basically the same thing as g3/hk91's also?
Link Posted: 12/17/2005 7:06:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fiend:

Originally Posted By hartzpad:

Originally Posted By fiend:
Does the CETME take non wood furniture?



Yes, standard G3/HK91 slim and wide forearms work with very little trimming as well as the buttstocks with no mods.



Excuse my cetme ignorance, but arent they basically the same thing as g3/hk91's also?



No, there are small differences such as the furniture, triple frame, sights, etc.
Link Posted: 12/17/2005 7:38:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
Allright I've calmed down now. I like em, but its just not fair that the mag conversion CAN be done, but they WONT do it. And their excuse of 'we can't do it with 100% functionality guaranteed' is negated by the rifle above. They are good people there and wouldn't sell a faulty product, which means it must work.



The only 308 mag conversions Krebs ever did was to 308 Galil mags. They might've tried M14 mags but never got it to work. Now that Galil 308 mags over 12rds are next to impossible to find, I really can't see them doing much in 308.
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