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Posted: 2/7/2002 7:45:46 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 7:58:57 PM EDT
when dealing with the black rifle "cool" is not important! Does it work well?
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 8:02:06 PM EDT
Several questions:

How well does it work?

How much does it weigh?

How long is it in comparison to an A2?

What does it cost?
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 8:03:01 PM EDT
Can the sling stud in the 2nd pic be placed on the other side for us damn lefties?

Link Posted: 2/7/2002 8:03:34 PM EDT
Of course cool IS important. As far as function, it would seem to work just fine as a buttstock. Not like that is a high tech piece of equipment anyway it is made.
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 8:10:22 PM EDT
Why does it need the lower rod?

I think it would look better (and certainly weigh less) with just the buffer tube part and the buttpad.
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 8:13:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/9/2002 3:50:19 PM EDT by TREETOP]
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 8:16:35 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 8:33:30 PM EDT
From a traditionalist's point of view, I think it's just plain fugly.
But that's just my $.02 worth.



"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted
and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do
these things to other people and I require
the same from them."
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 8:38:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/7/2002 8:50:21 PM EDT by cnatra]
I like it.
I'd like to see one in person BUT I think
I may go with that over a post-ban M4 knock off
for my next carbine.

edited to ask for link to ACE Ltd. web site ??
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 8:40:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/7/2002 8:43:13 PM EDT by maxwell05]
Personally I disagree with paterpk. We are always saying "Wow, I just got a new toy!!!"

True, function is very important when dealing with a black rifle. But some of us (or me at least) have at least one ar15 for the purpose of a toy only.

As long as safety is satisfied. Which is appears to be. Then coolness is certainly a factor on said toy.

I guess in short: I WANT ONE!!!

I would go with the buttpad though.

Now how do I buy one online?
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 8:47:56 PM EDT
I have a folding model for my ZM, it's well made and light. The folding mechanism can be improved though. Ace's web site doesn't reflect the new stock yet
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 8:47:59 PM EDT
A while back...I took my A1 Stock and removed the Buffer Tube and Butt Plate. Then I screwed the Butt Plate onto the Buffer Tube. It looked Cool, but I realized after a while that under repeated fire that the Butt Plate was eventually going to give out. It looked nice, but lacked the proper support to keep it from breaking under fire.

The Butt Plate was not tight enough against the Buffer Tube to prevent it from having some play. This play after a few rounds would grow.

This is the probable reason they used a support. Now, I would like to see a faux G3A4 Style Stock on an AR-15.

Did I mention I like the design ?
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 8:51:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/7/2002 8:53:25 PM EDT by TREETOP]
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 9:04:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TREETOP:
I was planning to get the new Entry Stock by RRA, but after I saw it in person at the SHOT Show, I decided to explore other options.

I was thinking about getting an Entry Stck, why did you change your mind?

They look nice on the website, did they not look so good in real life? I hear they are supposed to be as long as a collapsed telestock, correct?

Link Posted: 2/7/2002 9:24:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/7/2002 9:25:21 PM EDT by TREETOP]
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 9:32:00 PM EDT
WWAAAAAAYYYY cool. Where do you buy one?
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 9:57:12 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 10:15:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/7/2002 10:26:31 PM EDT by NYPatriot]
Not a bad idea. I think that I kind of like it in a weird sort of way.

TREETOP, Is that just Styrofoam pipe insulation covering the buffer tube?
Also... does the stock replace the factory buffer tube or simply slip over it?
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 10:40:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TREETOP:
Somebody's got one on e-bay already, for $125.00. Item# 1803379412

Thats not right!
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 10:56:14 PM EDT
I want one do we know when they will be widely available?
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 11:16:55 PM EDT
I like the looks of it and will probably get one when they become available.
Link Posted: 2/8/2002 4:34:00 AM EDT
OOooohhhh, yummy!!!!!!!!!

I gotta have one.

I can attest to Ace's quality.

But I don't see it on their website yet.

Link Posted: 2/8/2002 5:49:22 AM EDT
Does the foam that covers the buffer tube come off?

I might like it if the top tube was not covered with the foam. It would almost look like the ZM stock then...
Link Posted: 2/8/2002 6:08:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By M4A3:
Does the foam that covers the buffer tube come off?

I might like it if the top tube was not covered with the foam. It would almost look like the ZM stock then...


I kinda like the foam. Some sound deadening of the buffer and spring, , more comfortable, non-slip cheek weld, less noisy when getting hit from the outside by whatever.

This thing will be perfect on my .40 S&W upper.

Link Posted: 2/8/2002 6:32:53 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/8/2002 6:57:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Waverunner:
Very Nice! Now when the hell is my tax return coming in?

If you did direct deposit watch your account today. The IRS usually makes deposits on Thurs night or Friday morning.
Link Posted: 2/8/2002 7:32:16 AM EDT
Just got off the phone with Bob of Ace LTD. The stocks will be available for shipping next week.
The stock retails for $89.95 and the butt pad $14.00. Looks like i have given my wife another reason to naw on my butt!!
Link Posted: 2/8/2002 9:32:35 AM EDT
I just placed my order with Bob! Only a few remain in stock. The next alotment will be about 30 days out!
Link Posted: 2/8/2002 9:51:11 AM EDT
Mines on order...mines on order!!!!!!!

Shipping next week.


Link Posted: 2/8/2002 11:04:42 AM EDT

I just ordered one!
Link Posted: 2/8/2002 11:18:05 AM EDT
Here's the scoop!!!!

This is the scoop from Bob CEO ACE LTD USA. The ARFX will retail for 89.95
- butt pad 14.00
- S&H 8.50

I have a limited number of ARFX stocks being assembled right now. They will begin shipping 2-13-02.

Call 530 346 2492 to place an order ASAP as they will sell out quickly. The next batch will not be available until approximately 3-10-02.
Could you do me a favor and post this?

Thank you for your interest,
Bob ACE <><
Link Posted: 2/8/2002 11:43:06 AM EDT
That is totally cool. I need one. I think my post ban Dissipator will look awesome with one of these stocks.
Link Posted: 2/8/2002 11:54:23 AM EDT
It looks like a better idea than the fake collapsible stocks. I guess it's ok, but I won't be buying one. Watch-Six
Link Posted: 2/8/2002 12:03:01 PM EDT
I've gotta have one and I especially like the short length (just shy of an A1).
Link Posted: 2/8/2002 1:27:59 PM EDT
I've always thought someone should come out with a stock exactly like this one.

I just love the way it looks.

I just ordered mine!
Link Posted: 2/8/2002 2:09:00 PM EDT
And I just ordered mine. Damn, you guys cost me a lot of money showing this kind of stuff.
Link Posted: 2/8/2002 2:34:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/8/2002 2:35:53 PM EDT by Brain02]
yeah, it is there on ebay under item#1803379412, but you cant find it by searching for that number for some reason; instead search for:

AR-15 AR15 M-16 M16 New A2 Stock Replacement

its at $80 now!

-edited to add: wow, thats damn fine stock
Link Posted: 2/8/2002 3:37:35 PM EDT
Now... that's a 'gotta have'... sweet looking and without the buttpad, a perfect length...
Link Posted: 2/8/2002 4:19:02 PM EDT

I just bought one from jdtactical on Ebay.

If anyone wants one he has 2 more.

Don't ja just love Implulse Buying!!
Link Posted: 2/8/2002 4:28:53 PM EDT

I just bought one from jdtactical on Ebay.

If anyone wants one he has 2 more.

Don't ja just love Implulse Buying!!
Link Posted: 2/9/2002 11:10:08 AM EDT
Gotta Have one,
Will they work with a DPMS spacer and the Butt Pad???

Link Posted: 2/9/2002 11:30:41 AM EDT
Does anyone know the outside diameter of the tube?

I'm just curious if a C.A.R. cheek-rest will fit on it.
Link Posted: 2/9/2002 1:28:40 PM EDT
I see some advantages to this stock, namely light weight and A1 length. I want one without the buttpad spacer, but it's going to have to wait since I have some other projects going on right now. [:\]
Link Posted: 2/9/2002 2:20:34 PM EDT
Pretty, col, but the price is on the high side. With that said there's a good chance I'll buy one from his next batch.

Send the manufacturer this thread and he's just gotten a ton of free market research done for him.
Link Posted: 2/9/2002 9:16:56 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/10/2002 3:55:46 AM EDT
Treetop,that looks BAD!If it's not too much trouble how about a pic of it without the foam.

ACE probably isn't open on Sunday and I can't wait till Monday....I wonder what Bobs home # is. I gots to haves me one of these.
Link Posted: 2/10/2002 10:32:41 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/10/2002 11:48:19 AM EDT
Treetop,thanks for turning us on to this new product.Every time I think I've got everything I need something like this comes along.I guess no matter how old we get we've still got that little boy in us.
Link Posted: 2/10/2002 12:56:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ColtShorty:
From a traditionalist's point of view, I think it's just plain fugly.
But that's just my $.02 worth."

now why did you have to go and put that "thing" on a perfectly good ar. my vote goes for fugly
Link Posted: 2/11/2002 11:53:10 AM EDT
I hate to put this at the top of the forum again but:

I bought one from jdtactical on Ebay on the 8th. I paid regular shipping. I just got it in the mail TODAY (11th)!!!

I just thought you guys should know about jdtactical and his FAST SHIPPING!!!

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