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Link Posted: 6/22/2020 2:09:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tlandoe07:


a ~6% difference in gain could be noticeable depending on the lighting conditions you're working in.

It very well could make absolutely no practical difference, I just make the comment because we are talking $2k extra, and for that markup I would have much higher expectations. Just my .02
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I agree. The gain should be matched best as possible. Especially with devices that don't have the ability for gain settings or adjustments.

I'm pretty sure NVD is able to match the gain levels in their BNVD. They list the system gain levels on their NVD specific sheet that accompanies the mfg data records. His show system gain for each monocular as 17620/17920 which is basically the same.
Link Posted: 6/22/2020 2:27:48 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/22/2020 4:44:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lowdown3:



I think everyone that reads the forums here understands full well that the L3 filmless high fom tubes cost more than Harris/Elbit systems tubes. Just a casual glance around at numerous sites can see there is obviously a price difference, and then times TWO tubes.
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If that's the case, I stand corrected. He didn't specify that he was buying completely different tubes than the standard fare, so I was under the assumption that everything else being the same he was paying $2k more for requested specs.
Link Posted: 6/22/2020 9:15:56 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/24/2020 8:44:03 AM EDT
Looks like about a $500 price bump for DTNVS over DTNVG. This was the first vendor I’ve seen list them - https://nvincorporated.com/product/actinblack-dtnvs/
Link Posted: 6/24/2020 9:59:54 AM EDT
Well shit...  You just had to go and bring up DTNVS...  
Link Posted: 6/24/2020 10:01:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jwramp:
Looks like about a $500 price bump for DTNVS over DTNVG. This was the first vendor I’ve seen list them - https://nvincorporated.com/product/actinblack-dtnvs/
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That's extremely reasonable. I am pleasantly surprised. Might buy one
Link Posted: 6/24/2020 6:32:26 PM EDT
JRH HP+ GP

Drop shipped from NVD within a few days of ordering, took about a week to arrive after that.

PVS-14 - Thin Filmed\Elbit
PCS 2375
Halo .88
EBI 0.4
65K
64 LP/mm
SNR 27


Tube has a blem in zone 2, was told it was just shading or to send it back so they can look at it (it's not shading.) Still trying to decide if it is worth the hassle\shipping time\replacement.
Link Posted: 6/24/2020 7:30:28 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/25/2020 11:44:28 AM EDT
TNVC
Ordered: 5/1/20
Estimated Lead Time: 6 weeks (6/12/20)
Delivery Date: Currently at nearly 8 weeks out. I emailed TNVC and they said they’re waiting on a supplier, could be a few more weeks. Today, they found what they needed to and sent me an email saying they got the part and is shipping my order out soon. Jacob at TNVC has been a big help and even sent me my spec sheet while I wait.

This is an L3 filmed Gen3 Green PVS14
  Photocathode Sensitivity: 2503uA/lm
  EBI: 2.1 x10-11 phot
  SNR: 27.4
  Center Resolution: 64lp/mm
  Halo: 0.94mm
Spot Sizes:
  Zone 1 = 0
  Zone 2 = 0
  Zone 3 = 0

This is my first night vision device. I’m super pumped to see through it!
Link Posted: 6/25/2020 5:31:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/25/2020 5:34:23 PM EDT by TNVC]
Link Posted: 6/28/2020 7:35:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/28/2020 7:46:58 AM EDT by PNWPatriot]




This is the customer service you will get from JRH. For the record...if you make $30 an hour, it will take you two and a half weeks of hard earned wages, before taxes, to buy a $2900 NVG mono from JRH. I can't imagine folks wanting to get into the game making less. You get a unit that has a defect? Too bad. Get over it.

It will take them about 20 seconds to tell you it is your fault. That you are seeing things. This conversation has been going on for two months between Robert and I, and I am over it.

Robert makes a $400 commission on NVD built units. He doesn't do anything but sell them, and NVD does a drop ship. I have the statements to back that up.

Horrible businessman, and buyer beware. I had issues with my GP HP+ in late April...it took posting here to actually get a response, and these are only the latest of those replies. Two months later, and possibly getting my money back, for a unit with blems. Based on what they find out "benching" it. I am just about ready to send it to another business to have them take pictures through the tube....because there is obviously a defect\blem. Because JRH\Robert couldn't see them in my pictures and the videos below...it doesn't exist. You be the judge.

Site sponsor?

Just....don't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc3cpvnibp8

2 oclock. Zone 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeUptuaUuxM

4 oclock. Same line.
Link Posted: 6/28/2020 8:31:11 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/28/2020 8:43:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/28/2020 8:48:05 AM EDT by Synyster06Gates]
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Originally Posted By TNVC_Sam:


I’m not defending Robert or anything but honestly I cannot see what you are referring to in your videos when I watch them on a smart phone, I will jump on a computer and take a look later.
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+1. I don't really see anything, and I'm on a computer already. I see an small "shaded" area, but it's translucent and still produces an image. Almost looks like the IR indicator that all PVS7s make.

I assume you're talking about this? Looks like it could be a finger print on the IIT or even on the glass. That's not a typical "blem" which is a black spot that isn't going to produce an image. That IIT is working just fine.

Also I hate seeing only one side of the email conversation and then talking about customer service. We have no idea what was said TO him. Customers can be incredibly demanding - even if their assertions are invalid. I've seen Robert bend over backwards for people. It's also well known he drop ships from NVD.


Link Posted: 6/28/2020 10:18:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PNWPatriot:
https://i.ibb.co/NLbtjR5/Annotation-2020-06-28-040214-3.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/4TZY6Kt/Annotation-2020-06-28-040214-2.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/DVkTq8Z/Annotation-2020-06-28-040214.jpg

This is the customer service you will get from JRH. For the record...if you make $30 an hour, it will take you two and a half weeks of hard earned wages, before taxes, to buy a $2900 NVG mono from JRH. I can't imagine folks wanting to get into the game making less. You get a unit that has a defect? Too bad. Get over it.

It will take them about 20 seconds to tell you it is your fault. That you are seeing things. This conversation has been going on for two months between Robert and I, and I am over it.

Robert makes a $400 commission on NVD built units. He doesn't do anything but sell them, and NVD does a drop ship. I have the statements to back that up.

Horrible businessman, and buyer beware. I had issues with my GP HP+ in late April...it took posting here to actually get a response, and these are only the latest of those replies. Two months later, and possibly getting my money back, for a unit with blems. Based on what they find out "benching" it. I am just about ready to send it to another business to have them take pictures through the tube....because there is obviously a defect\blem. Because JRH\Robert couldn't see them in my pictures and the videos below...it doesn't exist. You be the judge.

Site sponsor?

Just....don't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc3cpvnibp8

2 oclock. Zone 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeUptuaUuxM

4 oclock. Same line.
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I can just barely make out a small “smudge”.

I’ve got worse from floaters in my eyes.

This seems to be a misalignment of expectations with the reality of NV devices.
Link Posted: 6/28/2020 12:06:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PNWPatriot:
https://i.ibb.co/NLbtjR5/Annotation-2020-06-28-040214-3.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/4TZY6Kt/Annotation-2020-06-28-040214-2.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/DVkTq8Z/Annotation-2020-06-28-040214.jpg

This is the customer service you will get from JRH. For the record...if you make $30 an hour, it will take you two and a half weeks of hard earned wages, before taxes, to buy a $2900 NVG mono from JRH. I can't imagine folks wanting to get into the game making less. You get a unit that has a defect? Too bad. Get over it.

It will take them about 20 seconds to tell you it is your fault. That you are seeing things. This conversation has been going on for two months between Robert and I, and I am over it.

Robert makes a $400 commission on NVD built units. He doesn't do anything but sell them, and NVD does a drop ship. I have the statements to back that up.

Horrible businessman, and buyer beware. I had issues with my GP HP+ in late April...it took posting here to actually get a response, and these are only the latest of those replies. Two months later, and possibly getting my money back, for a unit with blems. Based on what they find out "benching" it. I am just about ready to send it to another business to have them take pictures through the tube....because there is obviously a defect\blem. Because JRH\Robert couldn't see them in my pictures and the videos below...it doesn't exist. You be the judge.

Site sponsor?

Just....don't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc3cpvnibp8

2 oclock. Zone 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeUptuaUuxM

4 oclock. Same line.
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Although seeing it firsthand is better, from the 2nd video it looks like it is shading, which as others have said is common. It won't affect the life or performance of the tube.

I've had tubes with worse and under use it usually becomes unnoticeable or barely noticeable.  

It's probably worth it to send to NVD, because if it is a smudge or something like that, then it's an easy fix.
Link Posted: 6/28/2020 12:11:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/28/2020 12:17:48 PM EDT by Heineken]
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Originally Posted By soncorn:


I can just barely make out a small “smudge”.

I’ve got worse from floaters in my eyes.

This seems to be a misalignment of expectations with the reality of NV devices.
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Originally Posted By soncorn:
Originally Posted By PNWPatriot:
https://i.ibb.co/NLbtjR5/Annotation-2020-06-28-040214-3.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/4TZY6Kt/Annotation-2020-06-28-040214-2.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/DVkTq8Z/Annotation-2020-06-28-040214.jpg

This is the customer service you will get from JRH. For the record...if you make $30 an hour, it will take you two and a half weeks of hard earned wages, before taxes, to buy a $2900 NVG mono from JRH. I can't imagine folks wanting to get into the game making less. You get a unit that has a defect? Too bad. Get over it.

It will take them about 20 seconds to tell you it is your fault. That you are seeing things. This conversation has been going on for two months between Robert and I, and I am over it.

Robert makes a $400 commission on NVD built units. He doesn't do anything but sell them, and NVD does a drop ship. I have the statements to back that up.

Horrible businessman, and buyer beware. I had issues with my GP HP+ in late April...it took posting here to actually get a response, and these are only the latest of those replies. Two months later, and possibly getting my money back, for a unit with blems. Based on what they find out "benching" it. I am just about ready to send it to another business to have them take pictures through the tube....because there is obviously a defect\blem. Because JRH\Robert couldn't see them in my pictures and the videos below...it doesn't exist. You be the judge.

Site sponsor?

Just....don't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc3cpvnibp8

2 oclock. Zone 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeUptuaUuxM

4 oclock. Same line.


I can just barely make out a small “smudge”.

I’ve got worse from floaters in my eyes.

This seems to be a misalignment of expectations with the reality of NV devices.



I have to agree with this.  The majority of tubes are going to have some kind of small defect that does not effect performance.  The only way you are going to get a "perfect" tube is paying more on the hogh end of average price and/or wating on a list.  Some vendors for example...might not have the lowest price, but they also have more stringent min specs on the tubes they get.  For my min specs I wanted I have to wait longer it is just how it goes.

Once you are out using it, moving around, etc your not even going to notice that.  Also... they offered to let you send it back and refund you even though you have had it for weeks... i mean what more do you want?
Link Posted: 6/28/2020 1:02:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Heineken:



I have to agree with this.  The majority of tubes are going to have some kind of small defect that does not effect performance.  The only way you are going to get a "perfect" tube is paying more on the hogh end of average price and/or wating on a list.  Some vendors for example...might not have the lowest price, but they also have more stringent min specs on the tubes they get.  For my min specs I wanted I have to wait longer it is just how it goes.

Once you are out using it, moving around, etc your not even going to notice that.  Also... they offered to let you send it back and refund you even though you have had it for weeks... i mean what more do you want?
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Agreed on last part. What does he desire as an outcome?
Link Posted: 6/28/2020 1:17:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PNWPatriot:
https://i.ibb.co/NLbtjR5/Annotation-2020-06-28-040214-3.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/4TZY6Kt/Annotation-2020-06-28-040214-2.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/DVkTq8Z/Annotation-2020-06-28-040214.jpg

This is the customer service you will get from JRH. For the record...if you make $30 an hour, it will take you two and a half weeks of hard earned wages, before taxes, to buy a $2900 NVG mono from JRH. I can't imagine folks wanting to get into the game making less. You get a unit that has a defect? Too bad. Get over it.

It will take them about 20 seconds to tell you it is your fault. That you are seeing things. This conversation has been going on for two months between Robert and I, and I am over it.

Robert makes a $400 commission on NVD built units. He doesn't do anything but sell them, and NVD does a drop ship. I have the statements to back that up.

Horrible businessman, and buyer beware. I had issues with my GP HP+ in late April...it took posting here to actually get a response, and these are only the latest of those replies. Two months later, and possibly getting my money back, for a unit with blems. Based on what they find out "benching" it. I am just about ready to send it to another business to have them take pictures through the tube....because there is obviously a defect\blem. Because JRH\Robert couldn't see them in my pictures and the videos below...it doesn't exist. You be the judge.

Site sponsor?

Just....don't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc3cpvnibp8

2 oclock. Zone 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeUptuaUuxM

4 oclock. Same line.
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Just my opinion, but it seems he offered multiple times to make it right. I had two of his units, one was phenomenal, and one had to go back to the factory. He went above and beyond to try to make sure I was satisfied with my purchase. The ‘perfect’ tube hardly exists, and every tube will have its little quirks. Like him or not, I’ve always seen him do right by whoever he’s dealing with. If the units working and you’re unhappy with it, shoot it back to him.
Link Posted: 6/28/2020 1:32:06 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/28/2020 1:41:38 PM EDT
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Yeah I’m gonna have to side with Robert on this one. Seems like he did a good job trying to make things right in a situation where he is hardly to be faulted in the first place. Nobody wants a tube with ANY cosmetic defect yet they also don’t want to pay top dollar for those very tubes. As a vendor all you can do is grin and bear it, take the hit on any costs to keep the customer happy, and it would appear this is what was done. Robert’s reputation would also back up the other side to the story which wasn’t presented originally (go figure).
Link Posted: 6/28/2020 2:40:43 PM EDT
Sounds like buyer's remorse for not getting WP.
Link Posted: 6/28/2020 4:57:37 PM EDT
It's something in the tube itself and\or on the intensifier itself. When you turn the tube off its axis, and look through it, you can see it is the middle of the unit. It is a line, with hundreds of small lines coming out of it in a  perpendicular pattern, like the intensifier or something inside the unit is scratched. Next to it, are hundreds of small black "blems."

It is definitely a fault inside the unit, and not a scratch on either lens. I just can't get a cell phone camera or DSLR to make it out, but with the eye it is there and not difficult to focus on.
Link Posted: 6/28/2020 5:00:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PNWPatriot:
It's something in the tube itself and\or on the intensifier itself. When you turn the tube off its axis, and look through it, you can see it is the middle of the unit. It is a line, with hundreds of small lines coming out of it in a  perpendicular pattern, like the intensifier or something inside the unit is scratched. Next to it, are hundreds of small black "blems."

It is definitely a fault inside the unit, and not a scratch on either lens. I just can't get a cell phone camera or DSLR to make it out, but with the eye it is there and not difficult to focus on.
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Sounds Iike a finger print on the intensifier. Send it in. He’s offered to have it looked at. I’m not sure what more you want
Link Posted: 6/29/2020 9:30:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/29/2020 9:32:53 AM EDT by sheepdog697]
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Originally Posted By PNWPatriot:
https://i.ibb.co/NLbtjR5/Annotation-2020-06-28-040214-3.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/4TZY6Kt/Annotation-2020-06-28-040214-2.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/DVkTq8Z/Annotation-2020-06-28-040214.jpg

This is the customer service you will get from JRH. For the record...if you make $30 an hour, it will take you two and a half weeks of hard earned wages, before taxes, to buy a $2900 NVG mono from JRH. I can't imagine folks wanting to get into the game making less. You get a unit that has a defect? Too bad. Get over it.

It will take them about 20 seconds to tell you it is your fault. That you are seeing things. This conversation has been going on for two months between Robert and I, and I am over it.

Robert makes a $400 commission on NVD built units. He doesn't do anything but sell them, and NVD does a drop ship. I have the statements to back that up.

Horrible businessman, and buyer beware. I had issues with my GP HP+ in late April...it took posting here to actually get a response, and these are only the latest of those replies. Two months later, and possibly getting my money back, for a unit with blems. Based on what they find out "benching" it. I am just about ready to send it to another business to have them take pictures through the tube....because there is obviously a defect\blem. Because JRH\Robert couldn't see them in my pictures and the videos below...it doesn't exist. You be the judge.

Site sponsor?

Just....don't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc3cpvnibp8

2 oclock. Zone 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeUptuaUuxM

4 oclock. Same line.
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HUH? Lol dude it’s analog night vision.... what are your expectations? That tube looks fine, much better than others I have seen.
Link Posted: 6/29/2020 10:22:03 AM EDT
BNVD through JRH Enterprises. Quoted 4-6. In my hands right at the 4 week mark, and that was with the shipping company dropping the ball for a day or two for COVID/riots

Thin film WP Elbits

Photocade 2261/2256
Halo .98/.97
EBI .49/1.3
Res 64/64
SNR 29.1/29.1

I think those are all the important specs

This damn thing is amazeballs. Took me nearly a week searching for any imperfections to find a few pin pricks in any of the tubes. In real use you cannot see a single one and they are amazingly clear and sharp.

Buy through JRH with confidence







Link Posted: 6/29/2020 8:54:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chase45:
BNVD through JRH Enterprises. Quoted 4-6. In my hands right at the 4 week mark, and that was with the shipping company dropping the ball for a day or two for COVID/riots

Thin film WP Elbits

Photocade 2261/2256
Halo .98/.97
EBI .49/1.3
Res 64/64
SNR 29.1/29.1

I think those are all the important specs

This damn thing is amazeballs. Took me nearly a week searching for any imperfections to find a few pin pricks in any of the tubes. In real use you cannot see a single one and they are amazingly clear and sharp.

Buy through JRH with confidence

https://i.imgur.com/A873v41h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kU3uExph.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/mUcuKoPh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/yzCLbJrh.jpg
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Those are some clear tubes. Did you grab these when they were on sale?
Link Posted: 6/29/2020 9:08:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lowdown3:



This customer emailed several dozen emails with  questions that were all answered before ordering, all had to do with WP tubes.  After a few weeks he called and ordered a GP unit evidently due to shorter lead time. He was charged and shipped within a few days. He received the unit and reported this small area of shading that customer called a blem. I responded to every email in a very timely manner and forwarded the pic to others to get their opinion as well. Multiple times I offered to get the unit checked out.


For the record I never once told the customer he was “seeing things” or that it was “his fault” and the emails I have reviewed again today bear that out. I may reply to an email in “20 seconds” but the customer was never told he was “seeing things” or it was “his fault.”  I simply told the customer- as many others of you have now done- that I could not see the “line” which he referred to- AND offered to get it checked out regardless.

May 4th was the last email/communication from him- which was replied to by me. Then he posted his first post in this thread on the 24th of June. Seeing a possible issue for a customer I IMMEDIATELY PM’ed him and before getting a reply started searching my emails for him. He replied with a different email address that he used for the order and I once again began trying to figure this out with him. So it’s not like we have been discussing this for “two months”. Yet the customer has been in possession of the unit and using it since late April.

The other day during our email communications I realized this customer had unrealistic expectations of Night vision and offered him a refund upon getting the unit checked out to be sure it wasn’t tampered with. Because we don’t sell used night vision- I offered to personally buy the unit back from him and use it as a loaner during NV classes. To that I received no reply from the customer until I saw his post today.
Even after this I am maintaining my offer of refunding this customer.
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Wow, I often pity those in the retail world - sometimes there is just no pleasing people. He has no gripe if he was offered a full refund.
Link Posted: 6/29/2020 10:29:18 PM EDT
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Those are some clear tubes. Did you grab these when they were on sale?
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Mine are basically identical in look and specs and I got mine around the same time, so we probably ordered around the same time. Mine were ordered on sale for $7,900.
Link Posted: 6/30/2020 1:00:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sheepdog697:



HUH? Lol dude it’s analog night vision.... what are your expectations? That tube looks fine, much better than others I have seen.
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+1 that tube looks clean to me.

that "shading" around the edges is normal, think of it like a rifle scope when your eye is outside the eyebox. same thing with night vision.

used to bug me with a rhino 1 mount and J arm until I got a mount that would adjust IPD. I guess my eyes are "off" a little

never bought anything from JRH, but I think offering a full refund is above and beyond as far as service goes.
Link Posted: 6/30/2020 10:08:57 PM EDT
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Mine are basically identical in look and specs and I got mine around the same time, so we probably ordered around the same time. Mine were ordered on sale for $7,900.
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Very nice, that’s a pretty reasonable price for good specs, white, and articulation.
Link Posted: 7/4/2020 5:53:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By rcoers:


Wow, I often pity those in the retail world - sometimes there is just no pleasing people. He has no gripe if he was offered a full refund.
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I have no gripe other than it took two months after a "few" emails, for them to offer a solution. I paid for no blems in zone 1 and 2, and I got one. It's a mechanical issue\something in the intensifier\a scratch or fault in manufacture. The HP+ specs on the NVD website say clearly zone 1 and 2 - no blems. That was important when I ordered. I sent my first emails the day it was delivered because I noticed it immediately when I turned it on.  

Really my issue is with customer service.

Just because I couldn't get a decent picture of the flaw in the unit, doesn't mean it isn't an issue.

Either way, they are going to take care of it, and I appreciate that. Let sleeping dogs lie. Don't be a Karen.
Link Posted: 7/9/2020 1:20:19 PM EDT
I ordered my BNVD-UL’s from JRH on 05/28. Just received shipping confirmation today. I’m excited to get them.
Link Posted: 7/9/2020 3:03:57 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/10/2020 2:40:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By r-allen:
I ordered my BNVD-UL’s from JRH on 05/28. Just received shipping confirmation today. I’m excited to get them.
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Nice score, thats a solid housing, and 6 weeks isnt too bad at all.  If you dont mind, can you post your specs in this thread when you receive them??
Link Posted: 7/10/2020 3:05:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sheepdog697:



Nice score, thats a solid housing, and 6 weeks isnt too bad at all.  If you dont mind, can you post your specs in this thread when you receive them??
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Yes, will do.
Link Posted: 7/10/2020 6:22:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PNWPatriot:


I have no gripe other than it took two months after a "few" emails, for them to offer a solution. I paid for no blems in zone 1 and 2, and I got one. It's a mechanical issue\something in the intensifier\a scratch or fault in manufacture. The HP+ specs on the NVD website say clearly zone 1 and 2 - no blems. That was important when I ordered. I sent my first emails the day it was delivered because I noticed it immediately when I turned it on.  

Really my issue is with customer service.

Just because I couldn't get a decent picture of the flaw in the unit, doesn't mean it isn't an issue.

Either way, they are going to take care of it, and I appreciate that. Let sleeping dogs lie. Don't be a Karen.
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"don't be a karen"... lol
Link Posted: 7/10/2020 8:49:14 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/10/2020 11:09:54 PM EDT
Mod3 mono filmless WP
TNVC
Photocathode 2199
EBI.  0.4
SNR.   38.9
Center Res  72
Halo.  0.8

Think at the time last year was 12week lead time and I believe it might have been a week or so longer.

Very happy with it
Link Posted: 7/11/2020 12:39:17 PM EDT
PVS-14 from Scott @ Nocturnality

Thin-filmed WP Elbit LSH tube

Photocathode 2475
EBI.  1.1
SNR.   40.1
Center Res  76
Halo.  0.6

Wait time = In Stock / Shipped next day

Fired it up last night and it's pretty damn clean I must say...  

Big thanks to Scott for a great buying experience!

Link Posted: 7/11/2020 3:07:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/11/2020 3:27:08 PM EDT by whopete89]
1. Vendor- rnvgs from Scott at Nocturnality
2. Quoted wait time vs actual wait time- shipped same day in my hands the next day
3. Specs- random selected Elbit 9800 tubes
4. Overall impression of said vendor- will definitely do business with again great guy fast communication through email.
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Link Posted: 7/11/2020 3:14:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/11/2020 3:15:48 PM EDT by mp_moody]
1. NGI thin film WP PVS-14 from TNVC Independence Day sale2. Ordered 07-2-20, shipped on 07-08-20 within quoted 2-4 business day window, arrived 07-10-20
3. Specs
Photocathode 2268
EBI.  0.7
SNR. 22.5
Center Res 64
Halo.  0.94
4. Overall impression of vendor: Very satisfied.

Link Posted: 7/11/2020 8:41:50 PM EDT
1. NGI thin film WP PVS-14 from TNVC Independence Day sale
2. Ordered 07-4-20, shipped on 07-08-20 within quoted 2-4 business day window, arrived 07-10-20
3. Specs
Photocathode 2106
EBI.  1.02
SNR. 27.3
Center Res 64
Halo.  0.95
Link Posted: 7/12/2020 3:58:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/12/2020 8:53:02 PM EDT by nate002]
1. Ultra Light L3 Filmless WP High FOM BNVDs from JRH Enterprises.
2. Ordered on May 14, 2020 - was told 4-6 week lead time at the time. Robert told me on June 8 about filling some big government orders right now so they were running behind. Received BNVDs on July 10, 2020. Edit: To add, I did tell Robert that I was willing to wait longer for a good set of tubes over fulfilling the order faster.
3. Specs:

Left Tube:
Photocathode: 2577
EBI: 0.3
SNR: 35.1
Center Resolution: 72
Halo: 0.7
FOM: 2527
Edit - Data sheet reads 0 actual blems on tube. I was reading it wrong because I could see blems/spots in the tubes themselves. I'll try to take some pics tonight to see if they'll show up.

Right Tube:
Photocathode: 2289
EBI: 0.2
SNR: 34.4
Center Resolution: 72
Halo: 0.7
FOM: 2477
Edit - Data sheet reads 0 actual blems on tube. I was reading it wrong because I could see blems/spots in the tubes themselves. I'll try to take some pics tonight to see if they'll show up.

4. Robert was very helpful and informative during the entire process. Great communication. I ordered a DBAL-A3 with the BNVDs and it came separately (sooner), even though Steiner was behind on production. Edit: To add, I did tell Robert that I was willing to wait longer for a good set of tubes over fulfilling the order faster.

The BNVDs are amazing, clarity, resolution, everything. My only issue is all the zone 2 blems on both tubes - edit: and while the sheets may show 0 blems, I can see several while looking through them. While they are small enough that I don't notice them when walking around, they are noticeable at a standstill. But the tubes are so good otherwise, I'm torn.

Unless, I'm misunderstanding what a blem is, which is very possible. I'll try to take pics and post later. May be peppering that Synyster06Gates is referring to.
Link Posted: 7/12/2020 6:20:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By nate002:
1. Ultra Light L3 Filmless WP High FOM BNVDs from JRH Enterprises.
2. Ordered on May 14, 2020 - was told 4-6 week lead time at the time. Robert told me on June 8 about filling some big government orders right now so they were running behind. Received BNVDs on July 10, 2020
3. Specs:

Left Tube:
Photocathode: 2577
EBI: 0.3
SNR: 35.1
Center Resolution: 72
Halo: 0.7
FOM: 2527
Zone 1: 0 blems
Zone 2: 3 blems, 1 >.006-.009 and 2 >.003-.006
Zone 3: 3 blems, 1 >.006-.009 and 2 >.003-.006

Right Tube:
Photocathode: 2289
EBI: 0.2
SNR: 34.4
Center Resolution: 72
Halo: 0.7
FOM: 2477
Zone 1: 0 blems
Zone 2: 3 blems, 1 >.006-.009 and 2 >.003-.006
Zone 3: 3 blems, 1 >.006-.009 and 2 >.003-.006

4. Robert was very helpful and informative during the entire process. Great communication. I ordered a DBAL-A3 with the BNVDs and it came separately (sooner), even though Steiner was behind on production.

The BNVDs are amazing, clarity, resolution, everything. My only issue is all the zone 2 blems on both tubes. While they are small enough that I don't notice them when walking around, they are noticeable at a standstill. But the tubes are so good otherwise, I'm torn.
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That’s quite a few blems. I can’t say I’d be happy with that. What tubes specification are they? 1701, 18um, 20um, etc? The EBIs are awesome though
Link Posted: 7/12/2020 8:05:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/12/2020 8:23:58 PM EDT by Lowdown3]
Link Posted: 7/12/2020 8:25:14 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/12/2020 8:29:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lowdown3:



See my reply- he was reading the "limit" column on his data sheet, not the ACTUAL column. Not a problem just he wasn't reading the right place. It happens a lot with data sheets.
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That makes more sense. He's probably seeing peppering then which is to be expected.
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