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Link Posted: 10/30/2020 12:12:33 PM EDT
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Got my filmless WP PVS14 from TNVC Monday!

Ordered 7/6, quoted 12-16 weeks.

Delivered 10/26.

Specs :
Resolution - 72
SNR - 35.4
EBI - 0.3
Halo - 0.7
Photocathode Sensitivity - 2713
Gain - 61,879

Blems - None.

TNVC was awesome, communicated well, and got my order out on time. As always, would recommend to anyone!
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Nice! That's an awesome tube. Put some sunblock on your eyeballs because it's going to a bright AF through the weekend, lol
Link Posted: 10/30/2020 12:45:44 PM EDT
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Nice! That's an awesome tube. Put some sunblock on your eyeballs because it's going to a bright AF through the weekend, lol
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Man the moon has really ruined this week for me. I wanted to go out and play but it's so bright I almost don't need NVGs lol. We did go out and watch our feeder last night though. Lots of bucks!
Link Posted: 10/30/2020 1:18:14 PM EDT
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Got my filmless WP PVS14 from TNVC Monday!

Ordered 7/6, quoted 12-16 weeks.

Delivered 10/26.

Specs :
Resolution - 72
SNR - 35.4
EBI - 0.3
Halo - 0.7
Photocathode Sensitivity - 2713
Gain - 61,879

Blems - None.

TNVC was awesome, communicated well, and got my order out on time. As always, would recommend to anyone!
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Very close match to the one I received from them a few days ago. If I ever decide to go duals, I know who to beg into selling me a tube.
Link Posted: 10/30/2020 9:09:37 PM EDT
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Got my filmless WP PVS14 from TNVC Monday!

Ordered 7/6, quoted 12-16 weeks.

Delivered 10/26.

Specs :
Resolution - 72
SNR - 35.4
EBI - 0.3
Halo - 0.7
Photocathode Sensitivity - 2713
Gain - 61,879

Blems - None.

TNVC was awesome, communicated well, and got my order out on time. As always, would recommend to anyone!
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How many 14s would you say youve owned now? Break down by tube manufacturer?
Link Posted: 10/30/2020 9:18:39 PM EDT
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Very close match to the one I received from them a few days ago. If I ever decide to go duals, I know who to beg into selling me a tube.
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Well the way he goes through -14s there’s a high likelihood so ya better get your cash ready lol
Link Posted: 10/30/2020 9:20:46 PM EDT
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Quick question for the TNVC folks on here. I ordered WP DTNVGs on 7/28 with a 14-16 week lead time. I now see that has increased to 20-24 weeks (per the website). Is the 14-16 week still a good figure for me? or should I not expect anything until the next year?
I know yall are working as hard as possible to get orders out, thanks for what yall do .
Link Posted: 10/30/2020 9:25:00 PM EDT
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Well the way he goes through -14s there’s a high likelihood so ya better get your cash ready lol
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Yeah, I remember the various comparison threads. LOL! If I didn't have a thermal riflescope on backorder, I probably would have gone the dual route right off the bat.
Link Posted: 10/30/2020 9:27:39 PM EDT
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I ordered WP DTNVGs on 7/28 with a 14-16 week lead time. I now see that has increased to 20-24 weeks (per the website). Is the 14-16 week still a good figure for me? or should I not expect anything until the next year?
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The newer lead time is for those placing orders now. But, I will say that all lead times are estimates and may run over slightly.
Link Posted: 10/30/2020 9:33:55 PM EDT
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Quick question for the TNVC folks on here. I ordered WP DTNVGs on 7/28 with a 14-16 week lead time. I now see that has increased to 20-24 weeks (per the website). Is the 14-16 week still a good figure for me? or should I not expect anything until the next year?
I know yall are working as hard as possible to get orders out, thanks for what yall do .
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This may help. I ordered DTNVGs with Unfilmed WP tubes from TNVC on 07/23. I did however request some “hand select” specs. I called last week just to see if the timeline was still looking the same. I was told my unit had a ship date of 12/30 (estimate). That would put me right around 23 weeks. If you didn’t request certain specs your wait time could be less. You can always call as they are pretty transparent about lead times and where you stand.
Link Posted: 10/30/2020 9:36:53 PM EDT
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This may help. I ordered DTNVGs with Unfilmed WP tubes from TNVC on 07/23. I did however request some “hand select” specs. I called last week just to see if the timeline was still looking the same. I was told my unit had a ship date of 12/30 (estimate). That would put me right around 23 weeks. If you didn’t request certain specs your wait time could be less. You can always call as they are pretty transparent about lead times and where you stand.
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That's what I was afraid of. I may call them next week, but I suspect I'm in the same boat as you. Good thing is I have my back up PVS 14 running right now.
Link Posted: 10/30/2020 9:42:55 PM EDT
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How many 14s would you say youve owned now? Break down by tube manufacturer?
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How many 14s would you say youve owned now? Break down by tube manufacturer?


Uhhh... I made a list of everything I've gone through since last October. Not counting the gen 1 or digital stuff I've played with.

PVS7 OMNI VII
NVG PVS14/6015 (L3 10160)
Steele Industries Omni VIII (Elbit GP)
Steele Industries Omni VIII (Elbit GP)
NVision Filmless L3 1701 WP PVS14 (2000 FOM)
NVision Filmless L3 1701 WP PVS14 (2700 FOM)
NVG Elbit XLS WP PVS14 (2700 FOM)
NVG PVS14/6015 (L3 10160)
L3 EOS thin filmed green PVS14
L3 filmless 18um green PVS14
NVD/JRH Elbit SL WP PVS14
Factory L3 filmless LE/MIL PVS14 2376+ FOM
TNV/NGI Elbit XLS PVS14
NV Inc filmless 1701 GP DTNVGs
TNVC L3 filmless 18um WP PVS14  
Link Posted: 10/30/2020 11:54:36 PM EDT
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Quick question for the TNVC folks on here. I ordered WP DTNVGs on 7/28 with a 14-16 week lead time. I now see that has increased to 20-24 weeks (per the website). Is the 14-16 week still a good figure for me? or should I not expect anything until the next year?
I know yall are working as hard as possible to get orders out, thanks for what yall do .
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I ordered the same thing on 7/9 with a 12-16 week lead time. Called today and was told they will likely go out next week.
Link Posted: 10/31/2020 2:13:11 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/1/2020 10:09:56 AM EDT
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Got my DTNVGs from HEAT inc a few weeks ago.

Elbit XLSH WP
Specs :
Resolution - 64/64
SNR - 33.3/31.1
EBI - 0.74/0.98
Halo - 0.95/0.95
Photocathode Sensitivity - 2257/2099
Gain - 69,092/67,471

both tubes have blems on the very outside of zone 2 (.003/.007) but are out of the way dont other me at all. Overall super impressed!
Link Posted: 11/1/2020 9:34:05 PM EDT
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I ordered a GP PVS-14 from JRH on 10/15 and received it 10/28...impressive turnaround.


Elbit XLS GP
Specs (Actual/Min)
Resolution - 64/64
SNR - 26.7/21
EBI - .45/2.5 (MAX)
Halo - .87
Photocathode Sensitivity - 2289/1350
FOM - 1708/1350

VERY clean tube.  A few very VERY small blems in it that you can only see when you are staring at a white wall.
A buddy ordered a tube the day after and received it the same day, with a slightly better SNR, I think 27.3 or something, and just as clean.

Link Posted: 11/2/2020 8:59:34 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/2/2020 11:39:58 AM EDT
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JRH, Photonis echo. Ordered 10/3, delivered 10/29.

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Specs:
FOM 2293
SNR 33.72
Halo.88
EBI .09
Link Posted: 11/2/2020 11:49:19 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/2/2020 12:12:11 PM EDT
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JRH, Photonis echo. Ordered 10/3, delivered 10/29.

Pic.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/251070/20201031_225630_jpg-1665404.JPG

Specs:
FOM 2293
SNR 33.72
Halo.88
EBI .09
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DAMN! That looks great. I ordered mine on 10/12 so hopefully Ill have mine soon and close to those specs.
Link Posted: 11/2/2020 12:54:12 PM EDT
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Beeuuutttifull!!! Great looking specs and clean tube. Thanks again, we appreciate your business!
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I didnt (dont) know much about this stuff with regard to specs, etc. all i know coming from a Gen 2 ATN handheld to this was like putting on my glasses in the morning.

I am very pleased, and will be sending people your direction soon.
Link Posted: 11/2/2020 6:01:32 PM EDT
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JRH Photonis Echo WP,  ordered 10-8, received 11-2.
Fom:2096
Snr:30.82
Resolition:68
Ebi:  .18

No pic.  What little
I've been able to play, image is clean.

Eta:  no picture i take does the image justice but, wow.  Real close to the guy who won the spec lottery above.
Link Posted: 11/2/2020 8:54:22 PM EDT
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TNVC always puts the customer first and takes the time to educate before, during, and after the sale.  Knowledge and customer service sets them apart from most of the suppliers out there.  I’ve been a customer for many years and will be for many more.  Can’t really rate anyone higher.
Link Posted: 11/5/2020 2:11:40 PM EDT
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Kosher Surplus

Dual PVS-14s

L3 Unfilmed WP

Sensitivity:2816/2684

Halo: .7/.7

EBI: .5/.2

SN: 38.6/ 36.4

Resolution: 72/72

FOM: 2779/2621



I bought a few items from kosher thru the website before speaking with him on the phone about NV. Got a tube in a 14 from him in July for a good deal with the premise of getting a second matching set. Fast forward to last week, got the call from Ben. Ben honored the quoted price for the second tube and I could not be happier with the performance.



In the current market for NV you either pay with time or cash. With Ben you know everything about the tube your purchasing and having it next day is to me worth the premium.
Link Posted: 11/5/2020 5:44:52 PM EDT
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Quick question for the TNVC folks on here. I ordered WP DTNVGs on 7/28 with a 14-16 week lead time. I now see that has increased to 20-24 weeks (per the website). Is the 14-16 week still a good figure for me? or should I not expect anything until the next year?
I know yall are working as hard as possible to get orders out, thanks for what yall do .
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I ordered a different unit on the same day and was quoted 8 weeks on my invoice. A week later the product page updated to a 12-15 week lead time. I'm now about to hit the 15 week mark. YMMV
Link Posted: 11/5/2020 7:34:24 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/5/2020 7:59:26 PM EDT
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Kosher Surplus

Dual PVS-14s

L3 Unfilmed WP

Sensitivity:2816/2684

Halo: .7/.7

EBI: .5/.2

SN: 38.6/ 36.4

Resolution: 72/72

FOM: 2779/2621



I bought a few items from kosher thru the website before speaking with him on the phone about NV. Got a tube in a 14 from him in July for a good deal with the premise of getting a second matching set. Fast forward to last week, got the call from Ben. Ben honored the quoted price for the second tube and I could not be happier with the performance.



In the current market for NV you either pay with time or cash. With Ben you know everything about the tube your purchasing and having it next day is to me worth the premium.
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Those are great tubes!
Link Posted: 11/6/2020 4:02:53 PM EDT
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JRH Photonis Echo  Purchased: 10/12  Delivered 11/6

FOM: 2187
SN: 32
Res: 68
EBI: 0.13
Halo: 0.88

Checked in the bathroom for a quick minute, didnt see any blems.

Cant wait to get outside tonight and really see what it looks like.
Link Posted: 11/6/2020 4:50:09 PM EDT
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Checked in the bathroom for a quick minute, didnt see any blems.

Cant wait to get outside tonight and really see what it looks like.
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Way better than it did in the bathroom.

You'll be pretty amazed.
Link Posted: 11/6/2020 5:00:21 PM EDT
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Way better than it did in the bathroom.

You'll be pretty amazed.
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JRH sends an email when it ships explaining common issues to pay attention to.  I read the whole thing twice.

Get in the bathroom, flip it on. CANT. SEE. SHIT.

Wizard eye my ass.

Then I realized... Day cover is still on Just like the email I read said to take off but I was too damn excited for the wizardry.

Cant wait for tonight!
Link Posted: 11/6/2020 5:08:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/8/2020 8:12:25 PM EDT
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Uhhh... I made a list of everything I've gone through since last October. Not counting the gen 1 or digital stuff I've played with.

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wow, ...are you getting most of your money back on the used market?
Link Posted: 11/8/2020 8:46:21 PM EDT
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wow, ...are you getting most of your money back on the used market?
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For sure. It's hard to lose money on NV right now.
Link Posted: 11/8/2020 11:08:50 PM EDT
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JRH Photonis Echo

FOM: 2340
SN: 34
Res: 68
EBI: 0.12
Halo: 0.88

Awesome unit.   Shipped fairly quick.  

Link Posted: 11/9/2020 12:18:38 AM EDT
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JRH Photonis Echo

FOM: 2340
SN: 34
Res: 68
EBI: 0.12
Halo: 0.88

Awesome unit.   Shipped fairly quick.  

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And i thought i did well!
Link Posted: 11/9/2020 1:31:41 PM EDT
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JRH Photonis Echo

FOM: 2340
SN: 34
Res: 68
EBI: 0.12
Halo: 0.88

Awesome unit.   Shipped fairly quick.  

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Awesome specs man!
Link Posted: 11/15/2020 2:30:07 AM EDT
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PVS14 Elbit XLS Thin Film GP - $2450

Steele Industries

Quoted 6+ weeks, Arrived in only 4 weeks.

SNR - 30.5
Res. - 64
Halo - .84
EBI - .68
PC sensitivity - 2660
Gain - 66,764
FOM - 1952

Small blem in zone 3.

Everything was brand new and legit Carson housing and optics.

Wouldn't hesitate to buy another tube from Dominick.

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Link Posted: 11/15/2020 3:31:06 AM EDT
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JRH Photonis Echo

FOM: 2340
SN: 34
Res: 68
EBI: 0.12
Halo: 0.88

Awesome unit.   Shipped fairly quick.  

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When did you order and when was it delivered?
Link Posted: 11/15/2020 4:33:09 PM EDT
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When did you order and when was it delivered?
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Ordered on 10/10.

Switched my order the next day to the unit I have.

Shipped on 10/29 and received the next day I believe.
Link Posted: 11/18/2020 11:29:02 PM EDT
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Huge shout out to all of the people over at TNVC!  I’m stunned at how awesome this unit is!  You guys went above and beyond with customer service as well.  Great Job and thank you for your products.  I’ll be returning for sure!

DTNVGs L3 Unfilmed WP

SNR : 35.7/37.5
EBI : 0.5/0.7
Halo : 0.7/0.8
Center Res : 64/64
Photocathode: 2674/2763
Link Posted: 11/19/2020 11:30:08 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/19/2020 11:59:19 AM EDT
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Huge shout out to all of the people over at TNVC!  I’m stunned at how awesome this unit is!  You guys went above and beyond with customer service as well.  Great Job and thank you for your products.  I’ll be returning for sure!

DTNVGs L3 Unfilmed WP

SNR : 35.7/37.5
EBI : 0.5/0.7
Halo : 0.7/0.8
Center Res : 64/64
Photocathode: 2674/2763
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Killer specs! Congrats.
Link Posted: 11/21/2020 3:34:05 AM EDT
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Ordered my first PVS-14 it was from N-Vision Optics and it was their "Unfilmed White Phosphor L-3 IIT, zone 3 blemish" listing.
Ordered in Aug received in Nov. Easy to work with and talked to a friendly and prompt customer service to get status updates.
64 Resolution
35.1 SNR
.6 EBI
.7 Halo
2492 Photocathode Sensitivity

edit: I can't seem to embed images, preview and bbcode seem to show the image but when I submitted the post it comes up as a link.
edit2: image of data sheet was removed, decided to post the spec in text form instead.
Image removed...VA-gunnut
Link Posted: 11/21/2020 8:50:42 AM EDT
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Possible issue addressed.
Link Posted: 11/21/2020 4:34:31 PM EDT
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PVS14 Elbit XLS Thin Film GP - $2450

Steele Industries

Quoted 6+ weeks, Arrived in only 4 weeks.

SNR - 30.5
Res. - 64
Halo - .84
EBI - .68
PC sensitivity - 2660
Gain - 66,764
FOM - 1952


Small blem in zone 3.

Everything was brand new and legit Carson housing and optics.

Wouldn't hesitate to buy another tube from Dominick.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/285899/pvs11323_jpg-1685237.JPG



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Wow that’s a great tube for $2460
Link Posted: 11/22/2020 7:31:50 PM EDT
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Who's received a TNVC Elbit recently and when did you order?

I am right at my quoted 16 weeks lead time and wondering how far behind they are.
Link Posted: 11/23/2020 11:55:29 PM EDT
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Who's received a TNVC Elbit recently and when did you order?

I am right at my quoted 16 weeks lead time and wondering how far behind they are.
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Try calling them? They will know better than anyone.
Link Posted: 11/25/2020 2:57:22 PM EDT
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Try calling them? They will know better than anyone.
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They didn't offer an updated lead time - i think i'm going to be waiting quite a while.
Link Posted: 11/25/2020 3:37:30 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/25/2020 4:25:50 PM EDT
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Call us Brother or email jaimie at tnvc dot com. Don't be shy, we're always here to help when we can and no one wasting our time like that. Jaimie has her pulse on all the lead times and stock.  Thank you for your business as well!
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100%, I literally just talked to Jaimie a few hours ago. She and the rest of the team are always helpful and transparent.
Link Posted: 11/27/2020 1:49:46 PM EDT
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Just got my XLS-H duals from TNVC. I'm new to NV and don't really know what these numbers mean (left tube/right tube):

Luminous: 1448/1674
Radiant: 170/183
Halo max: .99/.83
Burn in EBI phot max: .35/.62
2x10-6 max: 69379/67125
Center resolution: 64/64
FOM: 1856/1824
Signal to noise: 29/28.5

edit: can't see any blems, but the picture is decently "grainy"

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