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Posted: 8/14/2004 7:28:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/14/2004 7:29:24 PM EST by Gavino]
I'm thinking on buying a Turkish Mauser Model 38, large ring rifle, in 8mm caliber, with straight bolt handle. It has a 29 inch barrel. In good condition for $64.50. Is that a good price for this rifle?
What do thet mean by large ring rifle? I have 2 Mosin Nagants and I want to add another C+R rifle to my collection. Thanks for any info.
Later,
Gavino
Link Posted: 8/14/2004 8:32:37 PM EST
Large ring refers to the outside diameter of the receiver ring.

The Turks used to be cheap. If it headspaces and has rifling that is a good deal.

There is a Turkish mauser forum.

Dennis Jenkins


Originally Posted By Gavino:
I'm thinking on buying a Turkish Mauser Model 38, large ring rifle, in 8mm caliber, with straight bolt handle. It has a 29 inch barrel. In good condition for $64.50. Is that a good price for this rifle?
What do thet mean by large ring rifle? I have 2 Mosin Nagants and I want to add another C+R rifle to my collection. Thanks for any info.
Later,
Gavino

Link Posted: 8/23/2004 8:39:25 PM EST
Mausers are large ring or small ring.

Except for Turks. Originally the Turkish army had small ring Mausers. When they adopted the 1898 Mauser (large ring) for thier own use, they modified the design in several ways to make it the Turkish 1938. One of the mods was, while it has the large ring outer dimensions, it has the barrel shank and threads of a small ring Mauser. That way, all the older barrels they had could still be used on the new recievers.

So......the Turk is kinda a bastard. Externally its big and heavy like a large ring, and fits stocks for large ring guns. But if you want to rebarrel it, you'll need a small ring barrel. Also, there is hesitation about building custom big bore sporters out of these because of the reduced barrel shank size. The workmanship on them doesn't compare to Czech Mausers either. The workmanship and small shank barrel are reasons the VZ24 and 22/98 are more highly desirable and cost more. You can usually find a good looking Turk for $100 at a gun show, while a Czech gun will be covered in cosmo and the finish worn off at that price.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 9:18:33 PM EST
The 1954 dated AFT Turk 38's have large ring receivers that accept large shank barrels.

Dennis Jenkins




Originally Posted By crazyquik:
Mausers are large ring or small ring.

Except for Turks. Originally the Turkish army had small ring Mausers. When they adopted the 1898 Mauser (large ring) for thier own use, they modified the design in several ways to make it the Turkish 1938. One of the mods was, while it has the large ring outer dimensions, it has the barrel shank and threads of a small ring Mauser. That way, all the older barrels they had could still be used on the new recievers.

So......the Turk is kinda a bastard. Externally its big and heavy like a large ring, and fits stocks for large ring guns. But if you want to rebarrel it, you'll need a small ring barrel. Also, there is hesitation about building custom big bore sporters out of these because of the reduced barrel shank size. The workmanship on them doesn't compare to Czech Mausers either. The workmanship and small shank barrel are reasons the VZ24 and 22/98 are more highly desirable and cost more. You can usually find a good looking Turk for $100 at a gun show, while a Czech gun will be covered in cosmo and the finish worn off at that price.

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