User Panel
Posted: 7/10/2013 10:05:30 AM EDT
http://www.unclesamsretailoutlet.com/Chest-Rig-8465015815668-p/5012.htm
Just received mine. Brand new, although ad says used. Had shoulder harness stashed inside center pocket, along with green label identifying the item as "USMC CHEST RIG", along with System NSN #, Contract #, Lot #, and Mfr is identified as IBILEY MFG. Corp. I had to really look for the tag, and found it inside one of the three mesh-sided pockets on the body-side of the rig. IMHO, the vendor might not actually realize what they are selling, OR some are used, OR some lack the chest harness, OR some combination. I dunno. ETA 2: Mag pockets on the ends of the rig have adjustable flaps, and can be adjusted down to fit 30-rd AR mags, or up for mags that are considerably longer, possibly even AK mags. I don't have an AK mag to check this, but it looks possible with the flap adjusted to max length. These pockets are considerably wider (but same depth, front-to back) compared to the central pockets, possibly reinforcing the dual-use theory. I'll post a measurement of the nominal dimensions of the pockets later, but they look like they would take a mag of slightly bigger dimensions than the usual aluminum GI mag. Stay tuned for measurements. ETA 3: Vendor ad description changed to say "No shoulder harness". This was NOT in the original ad, IIRC, although since no shoulder harness was pictured, nor mentioned in the ad text, I assumed no such item was included. Disclaimer: no financial interest. |
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Says used. You just got, as in ordered or received?
Great find nonetheless. Thank you. |
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I just received mine today, and it was brand new. The clip-on shoulder harness assemly was stashed inside the center pocket.
Naturally, what you get might, in fact, be used--or not. Even if used, it's still a bargain, even if one has to either build/sew or buy a shoulder harness. Repeat disclaimer: no financial interest. |
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I knew I should have bought one during the Independence Day sale. It would have been like $12 or so. Shit.
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i laugh at the people paying $90 on ebay for this. Same here...I found one of these in a local surplus store. Used for $40 and came with a Spec-Ops brand SAW pouch attached to it. I figured they didn't know what it was since the cheapest used ones I was finding at the time were $120+ |
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Isn't this the same thing that the army is issuing now? If so, not a fan. Good price, I suppose, but I'll pass.
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Isn't this the same thing that the army is issuing now? If so, not a fan. care to elaborate? |
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Isn't this the same thing that the army is issuing now? If so, not a fan. Good price, I suppose, but I'll pass. I'm not sure what the Army is currently issuing. Perhaps you could tell us. Last I heard the Army was issuing the RACK, which was quite different, as the RACK did not have internal mag pockets, and the USMC item does. |
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Isn't this the same thing that the army is issuing now? If so, not a fan. Good price, I suppose, but I'll pass. No. This is the Tactical Assault Panel (used by US Army, USMC, etc). The new design I believe you're referring to is the Rack panel |
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Isn't this the same thing that the army is issuing now? If so, not a fan. Good price, I suppose, but I'll pass. No. This is the Tactical Assault Panel (used by US Army, USMC, etc). The new design I believe you're referring to is the Rack panel the rig that was actually called the RACK was way before this. here is a pic of the army one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/bae-multicam-ocp-army-military-molle-tactical-assault-panel-chest-rig-NEW-LOOK-/221246472190?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3383513ffe |
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Isn't this the same thing that the army is issuing now? If so, not a fan. Good price, I suppose, but I'll pass. No. This is the Tactical Assault Panel (used by US Army, USMC, etc). The new design I believe you're referring to is the Rack panel the rig that was actually called the RACK was way before this. here is a pic of the army one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/bae-multicam-ocp-army-military-molle-tactical-assault-panel-chest-rig-NEW-LOOK-/221246472190?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3383513ffe You're right...I stand corrected |
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Darn thing looks huge...how about some pics, Raf? Of your sides, like mirror shots more specifically. I want to know how far around it wraps. 6 mags across your front is pretty decent sized... With it lying on the floor in front of you, I could see a sidearm, Admin, mag, mag, mag, IFAK. |
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Isn't this the same thing that the army is issuing now? If so, not a fan. Good price, I suppose, but I'll pass. No. This is the Tactical Assault Panel (used by US Army, USMC, etc). The new design I believe you're referring to is the Rack panel the rig that was actually called the RACK was way before this. here is a pic of the army one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/bae-multicam-ocp-army-military-molle-tactical-assault-panel-chest-rig-NEW-LOOK-/221246472190?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3383513ffe You're right...I stand corrected The Multicam Army rig seems to include some items not present in the USRO bare-bones offering. That said, the main portion of the rig seems, at least s far as I can see, very similar to the USMC offering by USRO. The original RACK was quite different, as it had no internal pockets. |
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the parts youre seeing that probably werent included are the necessary widgets to attach the rig to the SPC/MTV
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the parts youre seeing that probably werent included are the necessary widgets to attach the rig to the SPC/MTV Could be. Some of the items look like grenade pockets or the like. I dunno. Needless to say, this is altogether different from what is offered by USRO. |
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the parts youre seeing that probably werent included are the necessary widgets to attach the rig to the SPC/MTV Could be. Some of the items look like grenade pockets or the like. I dunno. Needless to say, this is altogether different from what is offered by USRO. they are attachments for the army IOTV/SPCS. they are the exact same chest rig, just different colors and the two are issued with their services' respective attachments. the one from USRO obviously doesnt include the necessary attachments to the SPC/MTV |
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Well I ordered 2, thanks O!
hopefully they come with the straps. If so they'll make great bandoliers to stash around. |
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Thats the new TAP just in coyote, the same exact thing in multicam is current issue for the Army in afghanistan and is fairly new. These are a steal at $20 I just bought two.
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Darn thing looks huge...how about some pics, Raf? Of your sides, like mirror shots more specifically. I want to know how far around it wraps. 6 mags across your front is pretty decent sized... With it lying on the floor in front of you, I could see a sidearm, Admin, mag, mag, mag, IFAK. Thinking alike, we are... |
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Its fairly wide, its designed to have 4 clips attach to your armor (IOTV gen 2) 2 for the shoulder straps and 1 on each side towards the rear of where your side plates would be. These female buckles on your vest are what the TAP would plug into and how its designed to be used with armor. This allows you to have armor on but not real gear like ammo or an IFAK but you can quickly attach it without your buddy helping you. The second option is to attach the webbing it comes with to the panel itself and use it as a stand alone chest rig. Not a bad design at all but it is a big bitch.
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Its fairly wide, its designed to have 4 clips attach to your armor (IOTV gen 2) 2 for the shoulder straps and 1 on each side towards the rear of where your side plates would be. These female buckles on your vest are what the TAP would plug into and how its designed to be used with armor. This allows you to have armor on but not real gear like ammo or an IFAK but you can quickly attach it without your buddy helping you. The second option is to attach the webbing it comes with to the panel itself and use it as a stand alone chest rig. Not a bad design at all but it is a big bitch. I, for one, like a small rack. |
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Its fairly wide, its designed to have 4 clips attach to your armor (IOTV gen 2) 2 for the shoulder straps and 1 on each side towards the rear of where your side plates would be. These female buckles on your vest are what the TAP would plug into and how its designed to be used with armor. This allows you to have armor on but not real gear like ammo or an IFAK but you can quickly attach it without your buddy helping you. The second option is to attach the webbing it comes with to the panel itself and use it as a stand alone chest rig. Not a bad design at all but it is a big bitch. I, for one, like a small rack. |
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Its fairly wide, its designed to have 4 clips attach to your armor (IOTV gen 2) 2 for the shoulder straps and 1 on each side towards the rear of where your side plates would be. These female buckles on your vest are what the TAP would plug into and how its designed to be used with armor. This allows you to have armor on but not real gear like ammo or an IFAK but you can quickly attach it without your buddy helping you. The second option is to attach the webbing it comes with to the panel itself and use it as a stand alone chest rig. Not a bad design at all but it is a big bitch. I, for one, like a small rack. It's a double entendre meaning he likes small tits, a taste he likely acquired in Thailand. |
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Ok, seriously raf, can you update the title - it's $19.99, not $20.00
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Its fairly wide, its designed to have 4 clips attach to your armor (IOTV gen 2) 2 for the shoulder straps and 1 on each side towards the rear of where your side plates would be. These female buckles on your vest are what the TAP would plug into and how its designed to be used with armor. This allows you to have armor on but not real gear like ammo or an IFAK but you can quickly attach it without your buddy helping you. The second option is to attach the webbing it comes with to the panel itself and use it as a stand alone chest rig. Not a bad design at all but it is a big bitch. I, for one, like a small rack. It's a double entendre meaning he likes small tits, a taste he likely acquired in Thailand. Lulz, appreciate that one |
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Its fairly wide, its designed to have 4 clips attach to your armor (IOTV gen 2) 2 for the shoulder straps and 1 on each side towards the rear of where your side plates would be. These female buckles on your vest are what the TAP would plug into and how its designed to be used with armor. This allows you to have armor on but not real gear like ammo or an IFAK but you can quickly attach it without your buddy helping you. The second option is to attach the webbing it comes with to the panel itself and use it as a stand alone chest rig. Not a bad design at all but it is a big bitch. I, for one, like a small rack. It's a double entendre meaning he likes small tits, a taste he likely acquired in Thailand. Oh snap...shit just got real up in here! |
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Its fairly wide, its designed to have 4 clips attach to your armor (IOTV gen 2) 2 for the shoulder straps and 1 on each side towards the rear of where your side plates would be. These female buckles on your vest are what the TAP would plug into and how its designed to be used with armor. This allows you to have armor on but not real gear like ammo or an IFAK but you can quickly attach it without your buddy helping you. The second option is to attach the webbing it comes with to the panel itself and use it as a stand alone chest rig. Not a bad design at all but it is a big bitch. I, for one, like a small rack. It's a double entendre meaning he likes small tits, a taste he likely acquired in Thailand. Fot the 100th fucking time, your mother is a very sensual woman and we went to Tahiti, not Thailand. |
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Would the pouches on this thing hold .30 cal mags such as FAL, G3 or AK47?
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Would the pouches on this thing hold .30 cal mags such as FAL, G3 or AK47? I'm not thinking so This might turn into a great chest rig for hand out when SHTF. I've got plenty of friends that have rifles, but none really buy into the 'gear' concept. Cheap enough option to keep around to help out a friend. Are there any harnesses from SKD that will work with these if they turn out to not have shoulder straps? |
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raf: can we get quick dimensions of the rig? I'm specifically looking for width, looks around 28"...
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Isn't this the same thing that the army is issuing now? If so, not a fan. Good price, I suppose, but I'll pass. I'm not sure what the Army is currently issuing. Perhaps you could tell us. Last I heard the Army was issuing the RACK, which was quite different, as the RACK did not have internal mag pockets, and the USMC item does. The TAP RACK has internal pockets for mag and DAGR/MBITR. I have one in MC and it works well enough. It also integrates well with the SPCS and the IOTV. They aren't quite as "polished" or feature laden as some of the aftermarket chest rigs but it does the job. I believe the USMC is very similar (at least it looks like it). |
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Got this email today, after mine shipped . Nice they call it a rig when it's apparently just the center panel of it.
Dear Valued Customer,
Thank you for your email. This item does not come with shoulder straps. It is not the entire system, just the center part. We hope this information has been helpful; feel free to contact us if you require additional assistance and have a great day! Warmest Regards, Customer Service Government Liquidation |
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Isn't this the same thing that the army is issuing now? If so, not a fan. care to elaborate? The thing is huge. It's not so much a chest rig as it wraps almost all the way around my torso. I don't like using panels like these on armor. I just put pouches right onto my vest. |
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Got this email today, after mine shipped . Nice they call it a rig when it's apparently just the center panel of it. Dear Valued Customer,
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The thing is huge. It's not so much a chest rig as it wraps almost all the way around my torso. I don't like using panels like these on armor. I just put pouches right onto my vest. What I suspected. Thanks |
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I thought it would wrap completely around like that. Gonna pass, but agree it would be ok as a loaner rig.
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Just ordered one. For $26 shipped can't pass that up considering I see them online for upwards of $200. Great find OP.
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I just got mine I ordered. I'm set for gear but figured at that price it was a good deal for a backup rig.
It is definitely used but it looks like light use and is in pretty good shape overall. Mine is missing the clip-on shoulder harness though. Overall, I'd say not a bad buy for $25 shipped, especially if you luck out and get the harness with it. raf, could you post a picture of the clip-on shoulder harness? Since mine didn't come with one and I'd like to see what the supplied one looks like so I can hunt down a replacement. |
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Pic here:http://www.ebay.com/itm/bae-multicam-ocp-army-military-molle-tactical-assault-panel-chest-rig-NEW-LOOK-/221246472190?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3383513ffe#ht_45wt_832
Basically, on the back, there is a horizontal length of 1" webbing with adjustable QD buckles that mate to the buckles on either side of the rig. Centered on the horizontal webbing is an inverted "Y" of 1" webbing, which travels up the user's back to a small "platform" of webbing where the two wide shoulder straps are sewn, along with an adjustment buckle to which the stem of the inverted "Y" is affixed. Think of an old ALICE rig; the one with a pistol belt as the horizontal member, and the rear of the "Y" harness connected to the pistol belt, while viewed from the rear, and you have it. The front of the harness is two lengths of 1" webbing with adjustable buckles that mate to the buckles on the front of the rig, and these 1" sections of webbing are sewn to two wider, over-the-shoulder strips of webbing. |
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Pic here:http://www.ebay.com/itm/bae-multicam-ocp-army-military-molle-tactical-assault-panel-chest-rig-NEW-LOOK-/221246472190?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3383513ffe#ht_45wt_832 Basically, on the back, there is a horizontal length of 1" webbing with adjustable QD buckles that mate to the buckles on either side of the rig. Centered on the horizontal webbing is an inverted "Y" of 1" webbing, which travels up the user's back to a small "platform" of webbing where the two wide shoulder straps are sewn, along with an adjustment buckle to which the stem of the inverted "Y" is affixed. Think of an old ALICE rig; the one with a pistol belt as the horizontal member, and the rear of the "Y" harness connected to the pistol belt, while viewed from the rear, and you have it. The front of the harness is two lengths of 1" webbing with adjustable buckles that mate to the buckles on the front of the rig, and these 1" sections of webbing are sewn to two wider, over-the-shoulder strips of webbing. Thanks! |
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If someone finds a source for the harnesses please list them. I'm hoping mine have them like the OP's, we shall see Tuesday.
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If someone finds a source for the harnesses please list them. I'm hoping mine have them like the OP's, we shall see Tuesday. I posted some harnesses from SKD on pg 1 I believe. Nobody responded and knew if any of them would fit this rig. I would prefer accessories and padding in my shoulder harness... |
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Would the pouches on this thing hold .30 cal mags such as FAL, G3 or AK47? I'm not thinking so This might turn into a great chest rig for hand out when SHTF. I've got plenty of friends that have rifles, but none really buy into the 'gear' concept. Cheap enough option to keep around to help out a friend. Are there any harnesses from SKD that will work with these if they turn out to not have shoulder straps? If you took the TT harness, and added a 1" wide horizontal strap with appropriate QD buckles to the rear of the rig itself, then all you would have to do is affix the vertical rear straps of the TT harness to two appropriate locations on the horizontal rear strap. This could be done by adding two short 1" wide straps to the rear horizontal strap, securing the ends of each short strap with tri-glide buckles, then backthreading the loose ends of the short straps back through the tri-glides, thus locking the short straps in place. This would give the user two moveable anchor points for the rear vertical straps of the TT harness, and not involve sewing at all. You will also have to add appropriate 1" QD buckles to front vertical straps of TT harness, and these buckles would attach to matching buckles on front of the rig itself. Straps/webbing available at strapworks.com (use retailmenot.com to find arfcom discount code), and buckles available at supplycaptain.com in their ITW/NEXUS section. This would work with any harness that was similar to the TT unit linked above, and might even work with old ALICE nylon "H" harnesses, once the metal hooks were removed and QD buckles installed on the front of the harness. You'd need two tri-glide buckles for the rear straps of the "H" harness also. So yes, if your rig does not come with a harness, the TT harness, or something similar could be made to work for a few extra bucks and a little time--and no sewing. |
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If someone finds a source for the harnesses please list them. I'm hoping mine have them like the OP's, we shall see Tuesday. I posted some harnesses from SKD on pg 1 I believe. Nobody responded and knew if any of them would fit this rig. I would prefer accessories and padding in my shoulder harness... I didn't see any links to SDK but they were actually the first place I checked. I saw the ones they have but I don't think any of them will work. Two of the ones I saw it looks like the one end uses velcro and the other end uses male ends on the clips instead of the female this rig would need. The other one I saw uses male on one end and female on the other. I suppose the PIG H-Harness would be the best candidate to convert to work with this rig assuming the female buckle ends are the proper width. I'm going to try hitting up a local surplus store (an honest to goodness surplus store, not an airsoft reseller) this weekend to see if they have any of these harnesses kicking around. |
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If someone finds a source for the harnesses please list them. I'm hoping mine have them like the OP's, we shall see Tuesday. I posted some harnesses from SKD on pg 1 I believe. Nobody responded and knew if any of them would fit this rig. I would prefer accessories and padding in my shoulder harness... I didn't see any links to SDK but they were actually the first place I checked. I saw the ones they have but I don't think any of them will work. Two of the ones I saw it looks like the one end uses velcro and the other end uses male ends on the clips instead of the female this rig would need. The other one I saw uses male on one end and female on the other. I suppose the PIG H-Harness would be the best candidate to convert to work with this rig assuming the female buckle ends are the proper width. I'm going to try hitting up a local surplus store (an honest to goodness surplus store, not an airsoft reseller) this weekend to see if they have any of these harnesses kicking around. The sewn-in front and rear buckles on the rig itself are the 1" type, and changing them to a wider type might be problematic. I believe some of the relevant buckles on the PIG harness linked above are wider than 1", and so there might be compatibility issues. |
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The sewn-in front and rear buckles on the rig itself are the 1" type, and changing them to a wider type might be problematic. I believe some of the relevant buckles on the PIG harness linked above are wider than 1", and so there might be compatibility issues. That's what I was thinking eyeballing them. At that point you're better off making one from scratch like you suggested. Plus StrapWorks has a Multicam style pattern you can get. |
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