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Posted: 3/8/2002 5:23:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/9/2002 8:45:00 AM EDT by Hokie]
Lately I've been itchin' n scratchin' over an M1A1 rifle by Springfield Armory. Granted like most of us I can't afford one outright. However, I found a new (used but never fired) M1A1 National Match with all the goodies and a range-finding scope to boot, for $2000. I'll probably be able to make payments on it...

Before I do, is this price reasonable? Assume the scope is worth $300. Just need some reassurance before I go out and spend money I don't have! Damn that'd be a sweet rifle though...

Hurry! I'm going there tomorrow to drool over it. Maybe lowering the value in the process!
Link Posted: 3/8/2002 6:43:40 PM EDT


I think you got 1 2 many 1s there.

If it's an M1A that sounds a little on the high side but if you can do it lay-a-way style that might be worth something.

I thought MSRP for a Match was some where around $1500.
Link Posted: 3/8/2002 6:49:58 PM EDT
I never did understand why the military adopted such confusing nomenclature for these rifles. The Garand and the .30 carbine are completely different rifles yet share the same designation, M1. Then you have the M1A1 and M2, both variations on the carbine. Then the civilian M14 is designated the M1A.

Somebody explain this logic, or lack of.
Link Posted: 3/8/2002 6:52:34 PM EDT
If memory serves me the M1a1 had a folding stock simular to the BM 59/62 and a 18 inch BBl.

Sound like Fair price to me.
Link Posted: 3/8/2002 6:59:28 PM EDT
I apologize, I should have typed M1A...

2K too high? With a scope?
Link Posted: 3/8/2002 7:00:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/8/2002 7:01:52 PM EDT by marvl]
You are correct, SGB, folding stock and pistol grip. It was adopted in 1942 for use by airborne units.

The M2 was a slightly larger and full-auto form of the M1 carbine.

Hokie, depends on the scope. $2,000 for a NM with a good scope is a fair price.
Link Posted: 3/8/2002 7:03:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hokie:
I apologize, I should have typed M1A...

2K too high? With a scope?

$1500 would be more in line for a used M1A NM with scope..........IMHO
Link Posted: 3/8/2002 7:06:18 PM EDT
Thanks for the advice, I'll collect more info on the scope and make a sound decision...again, thanks!
Link Posted: 3/8/2002 7:17:54 PM EDT
Just another tid-bit of info on M1A nomenclature --- the 18 1/4" barreled Springfield Armory M1A rifles are designated as M1A-A1 and are refered to as Bush rifles. Some of the pre-ban M1A-A1 rifles had folding stocks.
Link Posted: 3/8/2002 7:17:59 PM EDT
If it's the scope from Springfield, it costs about $500 new, depending on the model.
Link Posted: 3/8/2002 8:38:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/9/2002 11:15:54 AM EDT by supersonic]
Can someone direct me to a website that will host photos I can post on this and other websites?
Link Posted: 3/8/2002 8:46:23 PM EDT
I've seen many factory new Springfield National Match M1A's priced around $1,500.00 on auction sites like gunbroker and auctionarms. Recently Springfield was offering a 6X range finding scope and 3rd gen. mount for $100.00 with the coupon that comes with the rifle.
Link Posted: 3/8/2002 8:53:29 PM EDT
You said it was used but unfired? How long has he had it? Which scope is attached? What base and rings?

If the NM you speak of is a walnut stocked carbon barreled model, the scope is a Springfield 6x40, and the mount and rings are all springfield, I'd say no more than $1800 max.

The rifle itself is around $1500 delivered, and that scope / mount / ring package was a coupon offering this past summer for $99 total.

I bought one NM and one Birch GI model. Unless you are going to compete, get the standard Birch from Lew Horton Distributors. It runs just under $1000, and with a box or two of ammo added to the order to get over the $1000 mark, Lew ships for free!

Gotta love those M1As

Link Posted: 3/9/2002 8:41:13 AM EDT
The National Match rifle is new with a walnut stock, black barrel, never fired, with a $99 scope mount, and the 6X40 Government Model rangefinding scope on Springfield's website (first one on the page).


The previous owner bought it, and simply resold it after realizing he'd never use it.

But I will......so with that known...$1650...should I bounce? I think so! What's that scope go for these days?
Link Posted: 3/9/2002 12:02:59 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/9/2002 12:51:18 PM EDT
I'm not sure what street prices would be, but using MSRPs, the NM rifle is $2,000, the scope is about $500, and $100 for the mount.

The price should be discounted somewhat, since, even though it has never been fired it is still technically a "used" rifle.

I guess it's a supply-and-demand thing. How bad do you want the gun?
Link Posted: 3/9/2002 2:03:50 PM EDT
with a never fired NM M1A, with a range scope, for a total price of $1650 plus tax, I'm definately gonna jump on it! Lots of advice everyone, thanks! I'm gonna have an M1A!!! Woooooo HOOOOOO!!!
Link Posted: 3/9/2002 2:04:03 PM EDT
Springfield lists the scope's MSRP ar $435, but I'd bet dealer cost would be around $200. The rings are cheesy, but they work. The mount seems to be a good design, but I only have around 40 rounds or so through it so I'm not sure if it will hold tight. If not, some loc-tite should do the trick.

Link Posted: 3/9/2002 5:22:53 PM EDT
I think that you're making the right move.
Let us know what you end up doing.
Good luck.
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