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Link Posted: 7/30/2014 1:58:50 AM EDT
[#1]
Reliable?

You tell me... M11/9 Magdump
Link Posted: 8/9/2014 1:10:12 AM EDT
[#2]
Mine is in both 9mm stock upper or Lage MAX-11 and .22 LR
Link Posted: 10/29/2014 4:05:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tony_k:

The weak points are bolts, sears, disconnectors, and to a lesser degree small parts like knobs, pins and springs.

The reason there are so many transferable M11/9's is that when the manufacturing ban surfaced in Congress, Cobray started cranking them out 24/7 to make as many as possible before the May 19, 1986 cutoff. There are about 30k in the Registry, and IIRC at least half of those were built in the last eight weeks.

Cobray did not have nearly enough parts in hand, so they put a rush order through subcontractors ... and got a lot of subpar quality components -- pretty much everything except the welded receiver itself, the magwells, upper-receiver housings. Remember, it was a $150 retail gun at the time and normal (non-rush) quality wasn't that high; add in sub-Q parts and you can see the potential for problems.

You can tell when yours was made by the serial number -- the first two numbers are the year of production, so the following applies to "86-" SN M11's:

--First, check the welds on the rear of your receiver, where the flat is folded up and welded on the sides. A significant number (maybe 5-10%) of "rush" guns had poor welds. Check used guns for cracks, and keep an eye on NIB examples when you first shoot them. Cracks are easy to fix if noticed asap; if ignored, the rear can bend or even let go. Usually if the first 500 rounds are fine, your welds will hold forever. (Just never, ever fire an M11 with an age-deteriorated buffer, or no buffer at all.)

--Bolts and sears made in the rush were not sufficiently hardened. Some of the '86 M11s had old-stock, correctly hardened components; as many as half did not. They were drawn out of inventory at random, so you can't judge by the SN. Soft metal will wear away fast, and after as little as a coupla hundred rounds you can have runaways -- you get a mag dump every time you touch the trigger. It's best just to keep it aimed downrange and let it run out, but it can be intimidating to a newbie (I let a friend's wife shoot my M11 as her first full-auto experience, and she had a runaway the first time she pulled the trigger. "Was it supposed to do that?" she asked.)

The problem is that a lot of those 1986-rush soft-metal bolts are still in inventory today, so a factory replacement bolt purchased today may go bad just as fast. I finally took all my "rounded" bolts to my machining genius, who rewelded them, recut the notches, and once fixed they have never worn again. I can't recall what metal he used, offhand, but if someone needs to know I'll ask him.

Sears are the same -- soft metal that rounds off, allowing runaways. I've got a whole bag of worn-out examples of 'em. Some of the improved aftermarket ones are supposed to be better, but I don't have enough experience to recommend anyone. IMHO, it'd be worth having a good welder redo these as well.

--Disconnectors are stamped steel, and many are so out-of-spec that they bounce into the "stop" position while firing, and turn full-auto into an unplanned burst-only SMG. The easiest thing to do is just pull them out -- an M11 will run fine without 'em, you'll just have safe/FA with no semi function. Who shoots an M11 in semi anyway? I don't know of anyone making improved disconnectors.
--Factory top-cockers like to break the cocking knob and bounce it off your forehead at 1,000 rpm. Again, it's a combo of soft metal and poor machining tolerances. Personally, I will not shoot a M11 without a sidecock upper of some sort.

--Keep an eye on misc pins and springs. Fer instance, the retaining pin that holds in the stock catch likes to break, which will allow your stock to slide out and fall off the gun. It won't happen while you are shooting -- the recoil keeps it in -- but it gets embarrassing to have your $3k toy fall apart when you are showing it to friends. Some of the aftermarket stocks do not use the factory catch, so I vote for those as a better alternative.

Now, the odds are against all of the above happening to a single M11/9. But each is common enough that they are worth anticipating if you own one.

As far as aftermarket parts ...

I have heard nothing but praise for Lage products from shooters whose opinions and experience I highly respect, so I would recommend anything Richard makes. For stuff he doesn't make ... well, you prolly won't have a problem, and if you do, there is little that can't be fixed in minutes by a talented welder, if you keep the above in mind.

Modified M11's are winning subgun matches everywhere these days -- they have incredible potential. Just remember that they are product-improved examples, like race cars, and the winning shooters train like race-car drivers. Don't expect to run a box-stock M11/9 against them and win, or even finish the race.

Flame suit on....
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Originally Posted By tony_k:
Originally Posted By anr6t:
Are you refering to small upgraded internals and FCG parts, or add ons like the Lage/Stoney Creek uppers?

Can you point another soon to be M11 owner in the direction of quality aftermarket upgrades?  

The weak points are bolts, sears, disconnectors, and to a lesser degree small parts like knobs, pins and springs.

The reason there are so many transferable M11/9's is that when the manufacturing ban surfaced in Congress, Cobray started cranking them out 24/7 to make as many as possible before the May 19, 1986 cutoff. There are about 30k in the Registry, and IIRC at least half of those were built in the last eight weeks.

Cobray did not have nearly enough parts in hand, so they put a rush order through subcontractors ... and got a lot of subpar quality components -- pretty much everything except the welded receiver itself, the magwells, upper-receiver housings. Remember, it was a $150 retail gun at the time and normal (non-rush) quality wasn't that high; add in sub-Q parts and you can see the potential for problems.

You can tell when yours was made by the serial number -- the first two numbers are the year of production, so the following applies to "86-" SN M11's:

--First, check the welds on the rear of your receiver, where the flat is folded up and welded on the sides. A significant number (maybe 5-10%) of "rush" guns had poor welds. Check used guns for cracks, and keep an eye on NIB examples when you first shoot them. Cracks are easy to fix if noticed asap; if ignored, the rear can bend or even let go. Usually if the first 500 rounds are fine, your welds will hold forever. (Just never, ever fire an M11 with an age-deteriorated buffer, or no buffer at all.)

--Bolts and sears made in the rush were not sufficiently hardened. Some of the '86 M11s had old-stock, correctly hardened components; as many as half did not. They were drawn out of inventory at random, so you can't judge by the SN. Soft metal will wear away fast, and after as little as a coupla hundred rounds you can have runaways -- you get a mag dump every time you touch the trigger. It's best just to keep it aimed downrange and let it run out, but it can be intimidating to a newbie (I let a friend's wife shoot my M11 as her first full-auto experience, and she had a runaway the first time she pulled the trigger. "Was it supposed to do that?" she asked.)

The problem is that a lot of those 1986-rush soft-metal bolts are still in inventory today, so a factory replacement bolt purchased today may go bad just as fast. I finally took all my "rounded" bolts to my machining genius, who rewelded them, recut the notches, and once fixed they have never worn again. I can't recall what metal he used, offhand, but if someone needs to know I'll ask him.

Sears are the same -- soft metal that rounds off, allowing runaways. I've got a whole bag of worn-out examples of 'em. Some of the improved aftermarket ones are supposed to be better, but I don't have enough experience to recommend anyone. IMHO, it'd be worth having a good welder redo these as well.

--Disconnectors are stamped steel, and many are so out-of-spec that they bounce into the "stop" position while firing, and turn full-auto into an unplanned burst-only SMG. The easiest thing to do is just pull them out -- an M11 will run fine without 'em, you'll just have safe/FA with no semi function. Who shoots an M11 in semi anyway? I don't know of anyone making improved disconnectors.
--Factory top-cockers like to break the cocking knob and bounce it off your forehead at 1,000 rpm. Again, it's a combo of soft metal and poor machining tolerances. Personally, I will not shoot a M11 without a sidecock upper of some sort.

--Keep an eye on misc pins and springs. Fer instance, the retaining pin that holds in the stock catch likes to break, which will allow your stock to slide out and fall off the gun. It won't happen while you are shooting -- the recoil keeps it in -- but it gets embarrassing to have your $3k toy fall apart when you are showing it to friends. Some of the aftermarket stocks do not use the factory catch, so I vote for those as a better alternative.

Now, the odds are against all of the above happening to a single M11/9. But each is common enough that they are worth anticipating if you own one.

As far as aftermarket parts ...

I have heard nothing but praise for Lage products from shooters whose opinions and experience I highly respect, so I would recommend anything Richard makes. For stuff he doesn't make ... well, you prolly won't have a problem, and if you do, there is little that can't be fixed in minutes by a talented welder, if you keep the above in mind.

Modified M11's are winning subgun matches everywhere these days -- they have incredible potential. Just remember that they are product-improved examples, like race cars, and the winning shooters train like race-car drivers. Don't expect to run a box-stock M11/9 against them and win, or even finish the race.

Flame suit on....



I came here to find an answer to this problem.

Thank You!!    


Saint Peter
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 12:00:05 PM EDT
[#4]
Finally got mines...it's a 1986 edition SWD with Craig Wheatley Sten conversion.


I'm keeping it as a sten conversion because I got over 50 Sten mags.
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 4:24:54 PM EDT
[#5]
I can't believe this post hasn't been touched in 2 years.

Here's some gun porn:

From this


to this
Link Posted: 10/7/2016 8:16:09 AM EDT
[#6]
Thinking of taking the jump into the full auto world. I will be doing it particularly as a investment and I have a few questions.

Where is the best place to buy a M10/11?

Whats the difference other than caliber?

Which one should I look for?

Any particular maker better than the others?

Anything particular I should be looking out for?

How much did you give for yours and in what year? Would like to give the wife some numbers to chew on to justify the investment.

I know these questions are pretty vague. If their is a resource that someone could point me in the direction of I do not mind educating myself.
Link Posted: 10/7/2016 11:13:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:


Thinking of taking the jump into the full auto world. I will be doing it particularly as a investment and I have a few questions.



Where is the best place to buy a M10/11?



Whats the difference other than caliber?



Which one should I look for?



Any particular maker better than the others?



Anything particular I should be looking out for?



How much did you give for yours and in what year? Would like to give the wife some numbers to chew on to justify the investment.



I know these questions are pretty vague. If their is a resource that someone could point me in the direction of I do not mind educating myself.
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I bought a m11/9 in 2011 for just over $3k. I see them going for almost $9k now. Machine guns are a great investment!



For general info uzitalk.com is a good forum and has a MAC section.



 
Link Posted: 10/11/2016 2:57:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:
Thinking of taking the jump into the full auto world. I will be doing it particularly as a investment and I have a few questions.

Where is the best place to buy a M10/11? I'd check local shops. Your best prices will come from individuals. Otherwise, check subguns.com

Whats the difference other than caliber? Manufacturer, and build quality

Which one should I look for? which ever one you want. If you want more accessories or mod-ability, I'd say an m11/9

Any particular maker better than the others? MAC I'd say made the best "Mac" guns. SWD made a 9mm and a 380. Again they're all different

Anything particular I should be looking out for? Texas MACs. Check the welds. But that goes for all of them too.

How much did you give for yours and in what year? Would like to give the wife some numbers to chew on to justify the investment. I paid $3200 last August. Lucked up at a local dealer. I'd expect to pay $6000 for a local deal

I know these questions are pretty vague. If their is a resource that someone could point me in the direction of I do not mind educating myself.
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Link Posted: 10/11/2016 2:57:31 PM EDT
[#9]
uzitalk.com Mac forums are your friend
Link Posted: 12/3/2016 9:59:15 PM EDT
[#10]
Here is my humble addition to this epic thread


Link Posted: 12/7/2016 1:31:23 PM EDT
[#11]
Ok, wait a minute. Were's the picture of the M249-M11/9 from? I know these were built years ago I believe by Len Savage but the ATF rejected them. Is there someone who's doing it now? Who's leg do I have to hump to get one?
Link Posted: 12/10/2016 12:55:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bruh44:
Ok, wait a minute. Were's the picture of the M249-M11/9 from? I know these were built years ago I believe by Len Savage but the ATF rejected them. Is there someone who's doing it now? Who's leg do I have to hump to get one?
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This! Shut up and take my money!
Link Posted: 12/13/2016 11:20:50 AM EDT
[#13]
SABRE upper.  Flash in the pan by AA and now Mag Tactical?
Link Posted: 7/14/2017 4:18:11 PM EDT
[#14]
Who here has acquired the Lage M11/9 collapsible stock and regrets it?

Just from looking at pictures I prefer the appearance over the side folder and they are half the price.

Yes I realize the larger side folders are going to have better cheek weld.

Thanks!
Link Posted: 7/25/2017 11:49:10 AM EDT
[#15]
I'm a total newb when it comes to the full auto world. Seriously considering going the M11/9 route.

One thing that I'm having trouble understanding is:
With full auto M-16/AR-15s, as I understand it there are RDIAS, LL, and RRs.

With the M11, is it just the RR? Ie, even though the fire control system is full auto, none of the fire control components are registered? And when those parts wear out, you can easily buy aftermarket replacements without worrying about running afoul of NFA requirements?
Link Posted: 7/25/2017 4:24:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ncitrdude:
I'm a total newb when it comes to the full auto world. Seriously considering going the M11/9 route.

One thing that I'm having trouble understanding is:
With full auto M-16/AR-15s, as I understand it there are RDIAS, LL, and RRs.

With the M11, is it just the RR? Ie, even though the fire control system is full auto, none of the fire control components are registered? And when those parts wear out, you can easily buy aftermarket replacements without worrying about running afoul of NFA requirements?
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Yes, to all of that.
Link Posted: 11/7/2017 1:47:07 PM EDT
[#17]
Recent mag well replacement to "Glock"  (Made from a stainless CCF Raceframe).

Runs like a Swiss watch.

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Link Posted: 11/7/2017 3:38:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HistoricArmsLLC:
Recent mag well replacement to "Glock"  (Made from a stainless CCF Raceframe).

Runs like a Swiss watch.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/169738/DSC05865-355774.JPG
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/169738/DSC05866-355775.JPG
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I wanted to do that exact thing very badly until they came out with Zmags
Link Posted: 11/7/2017 4:23:18 PM EDT
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I wanted to do that exact thing very badly until they came out with Zmags
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I have done about a dozen of these magwell replacements over the years.  The Glock mags do have their advantages but often overlooked factor is the grip angle change and how that can improve the ergonomics and handling.  

There is no wrong answer.  As long as the mags are reliable and availability is not an issue anything goes so to speak.  

"It can only live in a post Hughes amendment world...." Otherwise it never would be, we would just build the transferable machinegun we want instead of this.  
Link Posted: 12/15/2017 5:23:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jestertoo:

I wanted to do that exact thing very badly until they came out with Zmags
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Me too. I'm very happy with the way it runs now. I do still like that, and might jump on it if it weren't for the Lage 22 conversion. I doubt there's a compatible 22 mag for it.
Link Posted: 1/9/2018 11:42:58 AM EDT
[#21]
i hope its ok to post the link below.  my original thread is about to be archived and thought placing it here would reach some more people.  the link is where i scanned a bunch of old magazines that feature the MAC stuff.  Lots of M11 stuff in there, you just gotta find it. also Stingers, Streetsweepers, suppressors, etc.

Dropbox link: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/92qyrif0vli74j1/AABGv9OF8VLifokJWlDcmuxga?dl=0

feel free to download, read or whatever, but please do not profit from my work, but a nice mention would be nice.
Link Posted: 1/9/2018 3:36:38 PM EDT
[#22]
Rob,
 Shout out to you on the Uzitalk MAC forum. Thank you very much for taking the time to do this. I posted on the forum at the below link.

http://www.uzitalk.com/forums/showthread.php?87413-Scanned-MAC-Articles

---Adam
Link Posted: 1/9/2018 4:01:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By nfakrazy:
Rob,
 Shout out to you on the Uzitalk MAC forum. Thank you very much for taking the time to do this. I posted on the forum at the below link.

http://www.uzitalk.com/forums/showthread.php?87413-Scanned-MAC-Articles

---Adam
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i actually posted it on UT awhile ago.  its called MAC Magazines Pt1 and Pt2.  
Link Posted: 1/9/2018 4:18:45 PM EDT
[#24]
Oops, I recall seeing that thread! Should have checked.....my bad.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 5:53:39 PM EDT
[#25]
My has never run right.

It is and always will be a POS.
Link Posted: 2/6/2018 7:42:25 PM EDT
[#26]
Mine runs like a champ with a Lage upper and Zmags
Originally Posted By soowah:I should have never clicked this....Yeah, for a different reason but I should have never clicked it either.  My M11/9mm is inbound.   I found a really good deal on one with a TASK slowfire conversion, Sten mag conversion and some other goodies.  I wasn't really in the market for the TASK, but I'm getting a heck of a deal on the thing.
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My STEN conversion will not accept a mag if the stock is closed, and when extended, with a mag inserted the stock won’t fully close.
Link Posted: 3/9/2018 11:12:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By firebugfab:
Link Posted: 3/10/2018 11:37:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WS4LIF:
My has never run right.

It is and always will be a POS.
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sell it to me
Link Posted: 10/9/2018 3:40:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WS4LIF:
My has never run right.

It is and always will be a POS.
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I had the same issue with mine for years. I finally replaced ever internal part and it runs perfect. Since I did that it's been more reliable that any of my other MG's. Max-11.com is the place to order from. If you still can't get it going there are a few good Smith's that know those guns well. Look on uzitalk fir that info.
Originally Posted By NAM:Originally Posted By kirkinwisc: make sure you get a can for it also.    kirk Ditto. I have an M10/45, and am very happy with the GemTech Viper. They make a model for 9mm also. Nice thing about the Viper is it has a locking collar so it doesn't accidentally come unscrewed. Those big ass threads on the bbl, can you get an adapter so you can use the same can on a 9mm pistol?
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I strongly caution using a pistol can with a MAC.

First - it is full auto and is your pistol can designed for full auto?

Second - these open bolt smgs require a larger expansion chamber for the gases. My Raptor suffers from excessive gas blowback. It was designed for a slow rate of fire closed bomt MP5. Not a 1200 rpm open bolt. Adding a Lage slow fire upper helps but I usually just run the old large Coastal designed for the MAC. Bowers and others make a nice can also.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 9:41:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By captainpooby:
Link Posted: 12/24/2019 9:24:26 PM EDT
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Mac 11/9 with:
Stock upper on top
generic side cocking upper, 2nd from top
Lage mk1 slow fire upper and .22lr drop in kit
Soumi drum upper on the Mac
Link Posted: 3/5/2020 9:37:25 PM EDT
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Did the reverse sten conversion to change back to shockwave mags. My .22lr kit works now too..
Link Posted: 3/5/2020 11:24:13 PM EDT
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I miss her already!

But c'mon man! upgrade the reddot!
Link Posted: 3/5/2020 11:39:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By far_right:

I miss her already!

But c'mon man! upgrade the reddot!
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Heck no, I love the big view, cheap bsa red dots on these.   I use real optics (Primary Arms, Sig, Trijicon, holosun) on my other toys.
Link Posted: 3/6/2020 1:01:12 AM EDT
[#35]
good looking gun!!
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Originally Posted By scottMO:


Heck no, I love the big vi­ew, cheap bsa red dots on these.   I use real optics (Primary Arms, Sig, Trij­icon, holosun) on my other toys. 
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This has always fascinated me. The amount of Mac10/11s out there with $50 optics on them is mind blowing. What's up with that? Nowhere else but the MG world do you see cheap optics on $7000 guns.
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This has always fascinated­ me. The amount of Mac10/11s out there with $50 optics on them is mind­ blowing. What's up with that? Nowhere else but the MG­ world do you see cheap optics on $7000 guns.
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They aren’t $7000 guns to most that bought MAC’s. You may have been late to the party.
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Thank you Norse-Forge for the Zuchov stock adapter!
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Originally Posted By amediocreshooter:


This has always fascinated me. The amount of Mac10/11s out there with $50 optics on them is mind blowing. What's up with that? Nowhere else but the MG world do you see cheap optics on $7000 guns.
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Originally Posted By amediocreshooter:
Originally Posted By scottMO:


Heck no, I love the big view, cheap bsa red dots on these.   I use real optics (Primary Arms, Sig, Trijicon, holosun) on my other toys.


This has always fascinated me. The amount of Mac10/11s out there with $50 optics on them is mind blowing. What's up with that? Nowhere else but the MG world do you see cheap optics on $7000 guns.

Unless you're doing subgun competitions what's the need?

My M11/9 has a $30 red dot and it works just fine for an imprecise range toy.


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Didn’t mean to stir anything up. Just an interesting observation. I run Aimpoints even on my .22s so seeing $30 optics on anything is new to me.

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Originally Posted By Donut777d­onut:

They aren’t $7000 guns to most­ that bought MAC’s. You may have been late to the party.
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Unfortunately, the early guys at the party slacked off and let the Hughes Amendment pass. Ruined it for everyone else.
Link Posted: 5/5/2020 9:34:16 PM EDT
[#41]

How's this? Really I just put it on there to post here. The optic is between AR's at the moment. I like the HK sights on it.
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Originally Posted By amediocre­shooter:
Didn’t mean to stir anything up. Just an interesting observation. I run Aimpoints even on my .22s so seeing $30 optics on anything is new t­o me. 



Unfortunately, the early guy­s at the party slacked off and let the Hughes­ Amendment pass. Ruined it for everyone else.
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Solid contribution. Thanks!
Link Posted: 6/28/2020 10:25:29 PM EDT
[#44]
Only issue with the Mac seems to be there’s never enough ammo...

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Link Posted: 4/2/2022 4:20:48 PM EDT
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Family Pic (missing a standard upper and another Lage .22lr kit)

Mac 11/9 Lage 5.56
Mac 11/9 Mk1
Mac 11/9 MK2
Lage .22lr
Mac 31
Mac 31C
PS adapter to use normal Lage/Shockwave mags
UpLULA with Soumi mag adapter
Bowers CAC9 old school can (not pictured)

Love the Mac’s!!!
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